Hi again, Yes I can agree with what you say above...so
can we connect our human suffering to the fact of having our sins erased,forgiven, wiped out AS we get rid of it ? Are we healed of sufferings when we stop sinning ?
(by suffering I mean illness, bad things going on in our life)
This is a tough thing to answer, and a very good question Beta...
Though I have dedicated the majority of my life unto the Lord, and intensely prayed and studied as well as sought to do the right thing in my life does not remove the fact of my suffering with Cancer for the last 5 years. However... even in the suffering... I can see many blessings... and always refer to -- Heb 2:10
-- as it notes that SUFFERING was part of the process of PERFECTION in CHRIST
If we do not SUFFER
, then we are not "like" our Savior in that respect!
In order that we be "made" in the IMAGE of God, means that SUFFERING
must be a part of that process... as JESUS
suffered tremendously on our behalf.
That we are forgiven of SIN, does not remove the fact we have SOWN ungodliness and unrighteousness. Just as the physical laws of God must be respected, and WILL bring consequence when they are not, so shall our deeds bring REAPING of what we have SOWN. GOD's WRATH is come against ALL ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, so... even though the CROSS of CHRIST
has reconciled our misdoings on a spiritual and eternal basis, ...does not remove the WRATH which unchangingly will come against us for our misdoings.
We are HEALED in the eternal sense, but in the life of the physical, ...concerning the SOWING of SIN, ...there will still be consequences to face. Where we KNEW good and DID evil... is just not "tossed aside". There is no LEARNING within dispensing of penalties which are rightfully due. Any parent knows that it is within their LOVE to forgive a child his misdoings, but the WORD
instructs us to use the ROD of CORRECTION as well, within their experience! -- Prov 22:15
In -- John 8:3-11
-- Is the account of the ADULTRESS, brought before JESUS
by the (religious) Pharisees... when all was said & done, there was no mention of repentance by her, nor by JESUS
, just that her ACCUSERS were no longer present. This is the TAKING AWAY of SIN... JESUS
instructed her to go and SIN no more...
As I see it, JESUS'
for His flock is to assist in any way, the escape from the SOWING of SIN, that they will not REAP of its consequences. That we are forgiven of SIN, does not remove the LAW of SOWING and REAPING. GOD's WRATH
...IS... come against ...ALL ungodliness and unrighteousness -- Rom 1:18
-- So, indeed SUFFERING can occur if we continue involvement in SIN.JESUS
and our Father YHVH
us with unending/unbeginning/immeasureable LOVE
... and it sorrows them deeply that we suffer in sin. Wherever possible, they as do all LOVING parents, try to teach and recommend unto us as children, to stay away from that which can and will cause us suffering and harm.
We ARE healed of our sufferings, via our submission to the ONE which takes it away via HIS ACTIVE working in our live, in place of our own -- Gal 2:20
-- when we remain in submission to our Savior... we are not further "sowing" unto evil.
It is pretty widely known that all the Apostles, though they worked in the cause of Holiness, still found suffering in their lives... which is (as I see it), evidence of past sowing which had to meet Divine wrath. Just because you become a Christian and you become and remain devoted to CHRIST
for the rest of your life to Holiness, does not mean that SUFFERING is thereby omitted (from that point) from your experience.
GOD ALWAYS remains TRUE to Himself and unto His standards. ::The B-I-B-L-E, yes that's th The ball thrown UP
, ...will come DOWN
, eventually. PEACE