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Who creates our soul?
« on: August 31, 2010, 12:58:54 PM »
I have these questions for you, if you believe in annihilationism: Who creates our soul?  Is that creation good or evil?
John 13
34 I give you a new commandment: love one another. As I have loved you, so you also should love one another.
35 This is how all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”

2 John
6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

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Who creates our soul?
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Re: Who creates our soul?
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2010, 05:22:18 PM »

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.





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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2010, 04:40:06 AM »
So if God created the soul, is the soul good or evil?
John 13
34 I give you a new commandment: love one another. As I have loved you, so you also should love one another.
35 This is how all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”

2 John
6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2010, 05:08:48 PM »
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So if God created the soul, is the soul good or evil?

He created it good, but after the fall, it became evil. 

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Re: Who creates our soul?
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2011, 01:26:39 PM »
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So if God created the soul, is the soul good or evil?

He created it good, but after the fall, it became evil. 

So do you believe that all souls were created before the fall?  Or were some created after?
John 13
34 I give you a new commandment: love one another. As I have loved you, so you also should love one another.
35 This is how all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”

2 John
6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

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Re: Who creates our soul?
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2011, 07:23:30 AM »
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So if God created the soul, is the soul good or evil?

He created it good, but after the fall, it became evil. 

So do you believe that all souls were created before the fall?  Or were some created after?
According to scripture only Adam and Eve (2 Persons,bodies) were created before the fall.
Mankind reproduced themselves after the fall Gen.4, thus making more souls (bodies).Every time a new Baby is born a new soul (person,body) is created.
(a soul is not to be confused with spirit since a soul or person can die Ezek.18v4)

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« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2011, 08:16:02 AM »
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So if God created the soul, is the soul good or evil?

He created it good, but after the fall, it became evil. 

So do you believe that all souls were created before the fall?  Or were some created after?
According to scripture only Adam and Eve (2 Persons,bodies) were created before the fall.
Mankind reproduced themselves after the fall Gen.4, thus making more souls (bodies).Every time a new Baby is born a new soul (person,body) is created.
(a soul is not to be confused with spirit since a soul or person can die Ezek.18v4)

So you believe that this intangible thing called a soul is created naturally?  What exactly do you believe that a soul is?
John 13
34 I give you a new commandment: love one another. As I have loved you, so you also should love one another.
35 This is how all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”

2 John
6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

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Re: Who creates our soul?
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2011, 08:36:35 AM »
Ezekiel 18:4, 20;

·   4Behold, all souls are mine; the soul of the father as well as the soul of the son is mine: the soul who sins shall die.

·   20 The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.

The soul is the body.....the living flesh and blood organism of all living creatures created from the dust of the earth.......made alive by the breath of life generating oxygen enriched blood..this is how all life began.

Gen 1:30

30And to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the heavens and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life

Genesis 2:7;

·   7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2011, 08:38:51 AM »
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So if God created the soul, is the soul good or evil?

He created it good, but after the fall, it became evil. 

So do you believe that all souls were created before the fall?  Or were some created after?
According to scripture only Adam and Eve (2 Persons,bodies) were created before the fall.
Mankind reproduced themselves after the fall Gen.4, thus making more souls (bodies).Every time a new Baby is born a new soul (person,body) is created.
(a soul is not to be confused with spirit since a soul or person can die Ezek.18v4)

So you believe that this intangible thing called a soul is created naturally?  What exactly do you believe that a soul is?
WE - People are souls.We are not intangible , does not Gen.2v7 show that ? We are living Creatures ,souls that can die and do die Ezek.18v4.
Traditional christianity is confusing soul with spirit. It is the spirit that is intangible not the soul which is a physical body whether alive or dead.
Scripture tells us : there is a spirit in man  Job 32v8 . It does not say there is a soul in man.

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Re: Who creates our soul?
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2011, 08:46:48 AM »
So if a person loses an arm, does part of his soul die?
John 13
34 I give you a new commandment: love one another. As I have loved you, so you also should love one another.
35 This is how all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”

2 John
6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

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Re: Who creates our soul?
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2011, 08:50:30 AM »
yes......the flesh and blood of the arm dies

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Re: Who creates our soul?
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2011, 08:54:56 AM »
Ok, so then why do some parts of the body, when they die, cause the whole body to die?

For example, if I lose an arm, the rest of my body continues to live.  But if I lose my head, the rest of my body dies too.
John 13
34 I give you a new commandment: love one another. As I have loved you, so you also should love one another.
35 This is how all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”

2 John
6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

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Re: Who creates our soul?
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2011, 08:57:50 AM »
come on now.......get to your point

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Re: Who creates our soul?
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2011, 09:00:38 AM »
I'm just testing a hypothesis.  But its a fun discussion all the same.
John 13
34 I give you a new commandment: love one another. As I have loved you, so you also should love one another.
35 This is how all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”

2 John
6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

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Re: Who creates our soul?
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2011, 09:06:41 AM »
well.......let's see your test results