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« on: December 19, 2008, 02:06:21 AM »
Why Atheism Is Morally Bankrupt

Very good article published on Townhall.
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« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2008, 12:36:14 PM »
TULIP Calvanists might disagree?
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« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2008, 10:49:19 PM »
Although I agree with the article, I will say that Athiests will argue that their moral ethics is based off from reason and logic, and not from a divine entity.

Believer: "I don't kill other because it is against my moral laws, and the law is given to me by God."

Athiests: "I don't kill my own kind because it is detrimental to the survival of my own species."

Believer:  "Stealing is wrong because God's laws living inside me tells me so."

Athiests:  "I would not want others to steal from me, thus stealing is wrong."


And on...and on it goes...no one ever wins.  The only person that can settle this debate is God. 

It is good to talk about it....but keep in mind to never be angry with another person's beliefs...because in the end it is just that.

Not all Christians do good...and not all athiests are bad. 

In the end it comes down to making a choice, it is about making "a leap of faith" on both sides.



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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2009, 04:07:49 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2009, 01:09:00 PM »
Quote from: Wordman on December 19, 2008, 10:49:19 PM
Although I agree with the article, I will say that Athiests will argue that their moral ethics is based off from reason and logic, and not from a divine entity.

Well, logic tells me that there has to be a Supreme Being (God or whatever) who created everything and keeps everything working. I told a man once that it would take a lot more faith to believe in evolution (the only other alternative) than it does to believe in creation.
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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2009, 02:36:59 PM »
I do not believe in aithiest's so they do not exist.
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2009, 03:15:08 PM »
Quote from: MegaJedi on January 05, 2009, 02:36:59 PM
I do not believe in aithiest's so they do not exist.

Foxholes (in time of war) have shows that many who said "There is no God" suddenly started believing in Him as they called on Him to keep them alive. "Get me out of this, and I will serve You." Of course, once God gets them of out of that situation, they soon forget their promise and once again say, "There is no God."

There is no such thing as a true atheist. If there was, they would see no need to try to prove that there is no God. Why try to prove the non-existence of someone who doesn't exist?
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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2009, 11:37:35 AM »
Quote from: Creationist on January 03, 2009, 04:07:49 PM
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Um....yes?:/

edit: oooh your calling me an atheist....ok....great. Nice to know i get under your skin that much that you feel like you have to say that.
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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2009, 04:04:51 PM »
I was only telling the truth unlike you
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2009, 04:15:40 PM »
Aww, I like you to.
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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2009, 01:21:54 AM »
Quote from: Jon-Marc on January 04, 2009, 01:09:00 PM
Quote from: Wordman on December 19, 2008, 10:49:19 PM
Although I agree with the article, I will say that Athiests will argue that their moral ethics is based off from reason and logic, and not from a divine entity.

Well, logic tells me that there has to be a Supreme Being (God or whatever) who created everything and keeps everything working. I told a man once that it would take a lot more faith to believe in evolution (the only other alternative) than it does to believe in creation.

(*ahem*  Playing devil's advocate No worries)  Atheist would argue that your logic is base on myths  with no solid evidence except from a dreary old book filled with fairy tales.  While their logic is base on more tangible evidence.

BTW...not all atheist believe in evolution.  Nor does all christians deny the theory of evolution.  Pondering
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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2009, 01:32:57 AM »
Quote from: Jon-Marc on January 05, 2009, 03:15:08 PM
Quote from: MegaJedi on January 05, 2009, 02:36:59 PM
I do not believe in aithiest's so they do not exist.

Foxholes (in time of war) have shows that many who said "There is no God" suddenly started believing in Him as they called on Him to keep them alive. "Get me out of this, and I will serve You." Of course, once God gets them of out of that situation, they soon forget their promise and once again say, "There is no God."

There is no such thing as a true atheist. If there was, they would see no need to try to prove that there is no God. Why try to prove the non-existence of someone who doesn't exist?

(*ahem*  Playing devil's advocate again  No worries )

Atheist will argue that in times of danger, due to fear and death Rolling on floor laughing...they lose there rational minds for awhile and give in to their irrational beliefs.   But after the danger has past, their reasoned mind returns, thus their irrational beliefs are quickly dismissed.

Also, atheist would argue that there are no true christians believers, because if there were true christians than howcome christians haven't done what Jesus ordered, meaning sell everything they have and give it to the poor.  Or love everyone like they do themselves.  

If you have 2 coats...give the atheist your other... No worries... Rolling on floor laughing 

Thus the atheist will say that all christians are hypocrites and don't practice what they preach.  Because if christians truly believe there is a God, than why worry about anything, christians should just give everything to everyone else because God should provide them with what they need.  And God should be their ultimate need above all else, as declared in the commandments.

Furthermore, atheist will argue that christians have done more evil in the world than any atheist ever have.  That death and war was caused by foolish beliefs in a dreary old book.    Pondering



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Just arguing for the atheists since there are none here to defend them.   Inorder to determine the truth, and help those that are still undecided that come to this board, we need to present both sides of this argument.   Only in doing that will we find the "Truth"  If I simply agree, than what would be left to discuss... I don't know, what do you think?
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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2009, 06:12:29 AM »
I think the 'there are no atheists in foxholes' has a double barreled meaning. The one wordman mentioned and also that atheists are also affiliated with not just nuetrality in religion but patriotism and other matters to. Therefore it is less likely for an Atheist to go to war in the first place.
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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2009, 05:09:56 PM »
......too dogmatic for me.
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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2009, 06:20:24 PM »
Atheist joke:

An atheist has been driving around a mall parking lot for hours looking for a spot. Full of sorrow, he proclaims: "God, if you find me a parking space in this mess, I will believe You are real and sit in church every Sunday"

No sooner does the atheist finish his statement, a parking spot appears directly in front of him, the closest space to the mall.

The atheist then proclaims: "Nevermind, I found one"
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