Are there people who believe in God, but not the God depicted in the Bible?

"He that cometh to God, must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him." Hebrews 11.

"perfect" is used quite freely as a basis for defining and/or accepting God.  Who defined the definition of "perfect"?  Was it man?  The answer for the atheist must be a resounding Yes.  If that be so, then by definition, man is trying to define that which they don't understand, and for some, self admittedly don't even believe in.  How is it that one can define something for that which doesn't exist?  Or how is it that one can define something for that which they don't understand, if it does exist?  Both positions are untenable intellectually and mathematically.

For example, this leaves us with the situation of trying to define a snow snake when we have:1) never seen one 2) never heard of one 3) don't believe they exist 4) think that those who speak of them are "12 bisquits shy of a dozen" 5) claim that since they don't know anything about them, or believe that they don't exist, and thus that there is no evidence of them, and thereby conclude that they have proof that they don't exist.  That is an indefensible position both logically and mathematically.

This is the position of an atheist, and I don't project any disrespect for them in these statements.

Therefore, the bible does say "But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him."

This holds true for every belief among mankind, for they must first believe that it is possible, and then they must accept it as the truth; atheist, Muslim, Catholic, etc..  This is a hallmark of thought processes on anything whatsoever, be it biology, physics, chemistry, etc..  Without this, none would learn anything whatsoever, be it how to speak, do math, read, eat, or believe anything at all about anything at all that exists or is thought to exist.

Thus, there are no grounds to believe that there isn't a God, for it is completely self inhibiting in structure and consequences, as shown both logistically and mathematically, except that it is a personal preference/choice to so choose.  And it (the choice/conclusion/belief) is thus seen to be solely subjective in nature and state, by very definition.  Nothing whatsoever is exempt from this fact.  Thus, to believe that there is no God, is an unsustainable position if there be anything at all beyond our comprehension, no matter the discipline, be it math, physics, biology, etc..  And we all know that there is a vast, unknown volume beyond our understanding.  It is beyond our comprehension to know how much is beyond our comprehension.  These things are irrefutable.  The conclusion that we cannot define anything whatsoever about God, or understand Him in any way without Him first enlightening us about Himself, must be irrefutably true.

To state otherwise is to do what Sherlock Holmes stated: "to argue in front of the data leads inveriably to error."

Do the math.

God is definitely possible.  And He has made certain things very clear if we actually want to see them.

as a man thinks, so is he.  A person that can separate their spiritual from their intellectual is beyond the realm of possibility.  The one may very well be dominant in a certain situation, and the other in other situations, but they are bed fellows.  How well one is put onto the back burner for something, such as "science" can very well be debated.  But to make blanket statements that they are totally inseparabel is an untenable position in light of the Word and "scientific" observation of life.

So, even if "science" was totally impartial, even in this topic, the accepted logic is used to substantiate and even promulgate itself.  Your reply is simply proof of this.  My reply is simply proof of this.  I rest my case.

I'm no scientist so correct me if I am wrong but doesn't a scientist begin with a hypothesis and then test it to see if it is true?

The thing is Christianity is a way of life and seeing as you cannot see, measure, weigh or otherwise analyse Christianity, I don't see how you can subject it to scientific tests and the only practical test as far as I can see is to live it. One thing I can tell you, it sure does work for me and I can whole heartedly recomend it.

Why don't you try it sometime?
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I'm no scientist so correct me if I am wrong but doesn't a scientist begin with a hypothesis and then test it to see if it is true?


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I rest my case.  Thanks for the heads up for those who slept through science class.

***I do not believe you are really interested in constructive dialogue but only in intellectual exercise.

Marcello