W,

Don't pretent to know my motives.  You don't.  I don't need to throw in Hitler to discredit Darwinism.  The point of this thread was to show the connection.  Period.  I, for one, was shocked when I found out.  I am not surprised that evolutionists will try to discredit this point, or try to discredit Christianity, but I am surprised at the connection.

V,

My Darwinists started out believing in God and then became atheists after coming to believe in Evolution.  Hitler was the same way.

In Christ,
KP

I would like to see where how the Bible can or has been used to promote racism, and even if you did manage to cite some obscure source it would most likely be a clear misrepresentation of Christianity and misapplication of its pretenses. Evolution on the other hand logically arrives at racism, even the title of Charlies book illustrates this point. "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life".

So the point would be that the rampage of Nazi Germany could be interpreted as a product of evolution theory.


There are no subjects I will decline from in the pursuit of truth and honesty. I understand your defense of evolution will be to spin the topic onto the atrocities committed by so-called "Christians", but Christianity does not support any of the ideals that can be inferred through evolution theory. The idea that some men are more evolved than others is simply the logical course of Darwin's theory when applied to mankind.

However people have not died for not believing in evolution, in fact people have died as a result of powerful and influential people using this theory to destroy the lives of millions. Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge killed some 200,000 by their race driven genocide. Adolf Hitler which was already mentioned used Darwin's theory to extinguish 6,000,000,000 lives. Stalin who was also an evolution theory adherent who would go on to murder around 3,000,000,000. There are others, but time fails me to cite them.

Evolution may or may not have directly contributed to all of these death and the millions more not mentioned, but it most certainly played a massive role in the formation these murders ideals and their blatant disregard for human life. To deny this fact is to be intellectually dishonest and disingenuous.

I would like to see where how the Bible can or has been used to promote racism, and even if you did manage to cite some obscure source it would most likely be a clear misrepresentation of Christianity and misapplication of its pretenses. Evolution on the other hand logically arrives at racism, even the title of Charlies book illustrates this point. "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life".

So the point would be that the rampage of Nazi Germany could be interpreted as a product of evolution theory.

There are no subjects I will decline from in the pursuit of truth and honesty. I understand your defense of evolution will be to spin the topic onto the atrocities committed by so-called "Christians", but Christianity does not support any of the ideals that can be inferred through evolution theory. The idea that some men are more evolved than others is simply the logical course of Darwin's theory when applied to mankind.

However people have not died for not believing in evolution, in fact people have died as a result of powerful and influential people using this theory to destroy the lives of millions. Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge killed some 200,000 by their race driven genocide. Adolf Hitler which was already mentioned used Darwin's theory to extinguish 6,000,000,000 lives. Stalin who was also an evolution theory adherent who would go on to murder around 3,000,000,000. There are others, but time fails me to cite them.

Evolution may or may not have directly contributed to all of these death and the millions more not mentioned, but it most certainly played a massive role in the formation these murders ideals and their blatant disregard for human life. To deny this fact is to be intellectually dishonest and disingenuous.

You just prove my point that all you can do in defense is spin this onto Christianity, which is nothing more than a red herring.

But you are right I meant millions, not billions.

The herring you have in your hand is just as red.

And neither am I.  Nor am I trying to blame Christianity for anything that those who claim to be Christians might do.  You are trying to discredit evolution by pointing to atrocities commited by someone who seems to believe in evolution.  That argument is irrational and does not hold.  It is a red herring in the formal meaning as attached to a debate.

Charles, that is just nuts!!  There is nothing about evolution that causes or encourages anyone to do anything in the manner of either Hitler or Stalin.  The fact that someone believes evolution and uses that as some trumped up basis for such horrific acts has nothing to do with evolution.

You might just as well quote Paul concerning slavery, saying that the Bible is assuredly a contributing factor to the tradedies commited against slaves.  The line of reasoning is the same.

That is truly ironic.  I am not sure that I even believe evolution is what God used.  But it is truly sad that Christians would use irrational argument in an attempt at opposition.  Rather than strengthen the argument for the God of the Bible, it adds fuel to the fire of the nonbeliever.  There are enough real questions concerning evolution and all that is taught as evolution to give solid reasoning to doubt the truth it.  But when arguments such as yours here and those in the OP are used to rebut evolution, it only diminishes any argument you make in favor of our Creator God.