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Question: God Created the Earth in Six 24 Hour Days
True - God created the Earth in Six 24 Hour Days   -48 (57.1%)
False - The Six Days in Genesis were not 24 hours long   -36 (42.9%)
Total Voters: 82

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« on: February 24, 2005, 08:36:47 PM »
Just looking to see what everybody thinks, this is not a salvation issue by any means. I have heard some interesting theories and was hoping to see if anymore would pop up.

For the record, I voted True, I do believe the days in Genesis were 24 hours long.

my humble 2 cents

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« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2005, 10:37:44 PM »
I voted along with you, Rick.
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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2005, 10:39:21 PM »
I voted false, but I agree that this is an issue where reasonable believers in Christ can disagree.

I think that the evidence demonstrates that the universe (and the earth) are billions of years old, and that some of the events mentioned in Genesis 1 occurred eons apart from each other.

There are a number of ways to try and reconcile this with a more literal reading of Genesis. But, I think it is more appropriate to realize that Genesis was not written as a scientific textbook. Instead, it was written to convey truths about God and his creation to an ancient people, who had an entirely different worldview than us.

Instead of teaching precisely how long creation took, the more important points are:
1. There is only one God, who has always existed.
2. This God is all-knowing and all-powerful.
3. This God created everything, and has no competitor (opposing a dualistic cosmology and theology).
4. This God actually likes human beings, and supplies their needs.
5. This God is a strict moralist.

There are undoubtedly a number of other points that could be extracted . . . these are just a few. All of these ideas would be astounding to an ancient Middle Eastern mindset.

As Royce Dickinson has said, Genesis may be looked upon as an evangelistic tract, teaching ancient peoples about the true God. I don't think the author(s) intended most of the scientific meanings that we have tried to extract from the text.

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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2005, 02:25:25 AM »
Mike,
If the creation days are not to be taken literally then why should we take your "more important points" literally? Who is to say what parts of Genesis are literal and which ones are not?

The fact is that the natural reading of Genesis 1 is that it is an historical account. There can be no doubt that the original readers understood this to mean literal 24 hour days.

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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2005, 05:45:52 AM »
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I'm worried.  I agree with you!:;):

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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2005, 07:45:50 AM »
The evidence relies upon mathematical assumptions and models which cannot be verified to be 100% accurate.

Because the rate of exponential decay of Carbon 14 follows a certain pattern for awhile, does not mean that all elements follow this particular model.  Also, Carbon 14 is only valid in situations less than 50,000 years.  A whole host of other dating methods are being used for things assumed to be of different ages.

It is very possible that current dating methods are not correct.
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« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2005, 08:07:06 AM »
Jerry,
In addition, since the accepted dating methods themselves often disagree with each other, and have widely varying results, it is really hard to trust them. In other words, if one method says X and another says Y, which one do you trust?

Also, it really doesn't matter if you have an accurate dating method that says the earth is a kazillion years old. The earth was created as an already mature planet. It isn't as if Adam and Eve started off as infants, with seedlings instead of full-grown trees, etc... The earth was created with age.

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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2005, 08:08:08 AM »
Allan,
I imagine we agree on many things other than politics  :p

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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2005, 08:59:00 AM »
Didn't we just do this survey a few months ago?  

I voted false, but I wonder what the Orthodox Church's position is?   :cool:
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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2005, 09:08:44 AM »
For those who voted "False": What do you do with "morning and evening" each day?

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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2005, 09:22:42 AM »
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For those who voted "False": What do you do with "morning and evening" each day?

Barry
I agree with you Barry, how do you reconcile a morning and evening if they were not 24 hours days. Plus it is my understanding that the original word used for "day" ALWAYS means 24 hour time period in the rest of scripture, why would that be different in Genesis 1.

my humble 2 cents

Rick

p.s. the poll I did a couple of months ago asked whether or not the earth was 10,000 years old.
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« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2005, 09:27:21 AM »
Barry wrote:
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For those who voted "False": What do you do with "morning and evening" each day?

Barry

I do with it the same as I do with, say, Psalm 18:

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6 In my distress I called to the LORD ;
    I cried to my God for help.
    From his temple he heard my voice;
    my cry came before him, into his ears.
  
    7 The earth trembled and quaked,
    and the foundations of the mountains shook;
    they trembled because he was angry.
    8 Smoke rose from his nostrils;
    consuming fire came from his mouth,
    burning coals blazed out of it.
    9 He parted the heavens and came down;
    dark clouds were under his feet.
    10 He mounted the cherubim and flew;
    he soared on the wings of the wind.
    11 He made darkness his covering, his canopy around him-
    the dark rain clouds of the sky.
    12 Out of the brightness of his presence clouds advanced,
    with hailstones and bolts of lightning.
    13 The LORD thundered from heaven;
    the voice of the Most High resounded.
    14 He shot his arrows and scattered the enemies ,
    great bolts of lightning and routed them.
    15 The valleys of the sea were exposed
    and the foundations of the earth laid bare
    at your rebuke, O LORD ,
    at the blast of breath from your nostrils.

    16 He reached down from on high and took hold of me;
    he drew me out of deep waters.
    17 He rescued me from my powerful enemy,
    from my foes, who were too strong for me.
    18 They confronted me in the day of my disaster,
    but the LORD was my support.
    19 He brought me out into a spacious place;
    he rescued me because he delighted in me.

The language is figurative.

And anyway, God didn't create the sun until day four (Gen. 1:14-19), and so how could there have been a conventional sunrise and sunset?
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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2005, 09:34:26 AM »
For those that think it is false, do you believe that God has the power to create everything in 6 24 hour days?
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« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2005, 09:37:54 AM »
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For those that think it is false, do you believe that God has the power to create everything in 6 24 hour days?
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« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2005, 09:55:21 AM »
As long as everyone is agreed on that point.
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