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« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2009, 12:01:07 AM »

The Bible states that the beings of the heavens came down to earth and defiled themselves with woman and had giants as offspring and taught man many sinful things. The punishment was to be thrown out into the waste land and pile on large stones to trap them into the depths of the earth. They were also forbidden to have any more interaction with the humans.
The quotation is from your post in Theology.

I would like to point out that the section in bold is not in the Bible (to the best of my knowledge).  This is what the Bible says:

Gen 6:2     ...the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they [were] fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Gen 6:3    And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also [is] flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Gen 6:4    There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown.
Gen 6:5    And GOD saw that the wickedness of man [was] great in the earth, and [that] every imagination of the thoughts of his heart [was] only evil continually.
Gen 6:6    And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
Gen 6:7    And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

As to the "stars who fell," which exist in Jewish mythology, they are there imprisoned in the heavens, not on the earth.
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« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2009, 07:24:51 AM »

That is a part of the story in Enoch that tells in more detail about how they were imprisoned
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« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2009, 12:59:29 PM »

That is a part of the story in Enoch that tells in more detail about how they were imprisoned.
In 2 Enoch they are imprisoned in the heavens (not on the earth), as I recall.

Can you just cite it?  It's easier than me looking for it when I don't know which book to look in.
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« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2009, 03:25:15 PM »

This is from chapter 10;
3Saying, Say to him in my name, Conceal yourself.

4Then explain to him the consummation which is about to take place; for all the earth shall perish; the waters of a deluge shall come over the whole earth, and all things which are in it shall be destroyed.

5And now teach him how he may escape, and how his seed may remain in all the earth.

6Again the Lord said to Raphael, Bind Azazyel hand and foot; cast him into darkness; and opening the desert which is in Dudael, cast him in there.

7Throw upon him hurled and pointed stones, covering him with darkness;

8There shall he remain for ever; cover his face, that he may not see the light.

9And in the great day of judgment let him be cast into the fire.

10Restore the earth, which the angels have corrupted; and announce life to it, that I may revive it.

It reads a little differant in other translations but the message is the same.

http://www.kingjamesversionofthebible.com/the-lost-book-of-enoch.html
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« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2009, 03:35:33 PM »

It seems that they were told to either conceal themselves or they were to be cast down. It looks to me with what I have received that they built the Pyramids to conceal themselves.
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« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2009, 07:08:26 PM »

It seems that they were told to either conceal themselves or they were to be cast down. It looks to me with what I have received that they built the Pyramids to conceal themselves.
Actually it's Noah that is told to conceal himself:

1Then the Most High, the Great and Holy One spoke,
2And sent Arsayalalyur (12) to the son of Lamech,
3Saying, Say to him in my name, Conceal yourself.

The son of Lamech was Noah.  (Gen 5:28,29)

Other than that...

A quick search reveals that Dudael is in Northern Egypt.  You line up here with the account, but I have to wonder if you were already aware of this info.

Azazel is presumed early and often to be Satan/The Devil, but in your passage in 1Enoch he is buried and it is declared he will never escape (which is simultaneously parallel and different from the Apocalypse, in which the devil is bound but released "for a season"), til he is brought out to be burned in the final judgment.

Also, Raphael appears in Dudael, fighting another demon (Asmodeus) in the deuterocanonical book of Tobit, which is clearly parallel to this account.

Other than that, it might be noted that the first part of 1Enoch is the oldest part of the book (the book is actually 5 books), that it dates probably no earlier than 700BC (that's being very very generous), and that it has strong ties with all things Egyptian.

I observe that there is no mention of the other fallen Watchers being hunted, smitten, or buried.  In fact, the judgment here is that Azazel will be held responsible for the entirety of the problems caused.

Even cursory research on this subject reveals a rabbit hole that one could easily fall down.  Don't get swept away.
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« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2009, 12:12:43 AM »

If you read chapters 8,9,and 10 in Enoch you will see that they are in fact talking about the beings that came down from the heavens and defiled themselves and taught many sins to mankind.

 And no I did not know this information before. Besides the info I got was only enough to lead me to the rest in the books of the Bible.

I do admit Noah was the one told to conceal himself but the rest does line up with what I am saying. And no I'm not all swept up as you say I'm also not saying I have all the answers. I guess if you try you can cast doubt on just about anything but if you try you can also see that there is possibly something to what I am saying.

 http://www.bibleufo.com/enoch1.htm
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« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2009, 04:15:26 PM »

If you read chapters 8,9,and 10 in Enoch you will see that they are in fact talking about the beings that came down from the heavens and defiled themselves and taught many sins to mankind.

 And no I did not know this information before. Besides the info I got was only enough to lead me to the rest in the books of the Bible.

I do admit Noah was the one told to conceal himself but the rest does line up with what I am saying. And no I'm not all swept up as you say I'm also not saying I have all the answers. I guess if you try you can cast doubt on just about anything but if you try you can also see that there is possibly something to what I am saying.

 http://www.bibleufo.com/enoch1.htm
I'm not trying to cast doubt, though I am naturally skeptical of claims of revelation such as yours, which is, I think, healthy.  I'm trying to use history, literature, and common sense to judge what you said.

Historically, what you've said lines up fairly well with a lot of Jewish post-exile mythology, the Enochian tradition and apocalyptic writings of the Essene community, many of which were later accepted by the Coptic church in Egypt.  There does seem to be an Egyptian connection of some sort.

I'm kind of on the fence with the historical aspect.  There's a reason this is usually classified as mythology, and not as history.

Also, it's rather tough to figure out where your message ends and where your interpretation begins.  You've been wrong in a few little details, but that's basically to be expected.

Was the message in words, pictures, or both?
Was there a stated purpose for the message?  Who is it for?  Who does it benefit?

And the rabbit hole...it was a warning, not an accusation.  Make sure the message is beneficial to someone.   If there is no point, then, well...there is no point.

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« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2009, 09:01:51 PM »

Thank you for your responses, the messages I am getting are just like you say not audible but more like thoughts. As for there content you are also correct , most are about God or directives for behavior/action.... They seem to all line up with the Bible and that is why I am here talking about it.

  In regard to the only two messages I have received about more than a personal nature of behavior still include a call for action on my part. These are about how I should inform others, but this part is also just more of a feeling than a message.

The reason I feel this way is the other message was about how we have been receiving messages for quite some time by the same source that they were delivered in Biblical times. After receiving this message I was drawn to EZEKIEL 1 .
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« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2009, 11:55:56 PM »

Nathan , I understand(I think) what you are trying to tell us.  I can understand because I have had similar communications myself.  Nothing on the scale as grand as the pyramids but more on a mundane personal level.Still, a communication is a communication.  I am convinced that anything that occurred in biblical times can and does happen today.  The only difference is(at least mainly) many people refuse to acknowledge the truth of it and prefer to make jokes,suggest insanity or mental incompetency.  Be assured though you are not alone.There are those of us who Know the reality.
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« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2009, 01:02:33 AM »

Thank you so much for your reply. I truly needed to hear someone that understands what I am going through. I would like to hear more about what you have experienced in your communications

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« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2009, 03:57:05 PM »

No, I don't Hear an actual voice. It's more like a thought , only it's not my thought. It is like what some people would call "a we small voice"


The Scriptures calls these 'unctions', like in I John 2:20.

This is something to which I am very familiar. If you would like to communicate in private, simply PM me.

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« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2009, 05:24:46 PM »

Nathan , I understand(I think) what you are trying to tell us.  I can understand because I have had similar communications myself.  Nothing on the scale as grand as the pyramids but more on a mundane personal level.Still, a communication is a communication.  I am convinced that anything that occurred in biblical times can and does happen today.  The only difference is(at least mainly) many people refuse to acknowledge the truth of it and prefer to make jokes,suggest insanity or mental incompetency.  Be assured though you are not alone.There are those of us who Know the reality.


When did a sea split apart long enough [or at all] for a ton of people to walk through it?  Where are bushes burning where the bush is not consumed?  Where are staves being turned into snakes? 

Not trying to be critical but I don't understand what you mean I guess.
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« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2009, 07:18:22 AM »

I'm sorry you feel that way. I have no doubt that he exists and is in constant communication. As for the bible , I believe it is the best owners manual for life ever written.

Hey, those are my word's "Owner's Manual"  !!   Smile

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« Reply #29 on: May 15, 2009, 08:27:44 AM »

Well, gee, Nathan, I have 'revelations" or "insights" given to me or gifted to me all the time ---and I am in awe about them - I just do not know why I've been revealed so much... a friend said -I'm no different or more special than anyone else - I just pay attention. She's known me for 21 years. I definitely do fine tune my dial!

I actually got a "telepathic" message the morning I found my mom passed away one week ago today - it was like a wave that swept over me, but with actual words this time!!

I trust my own discernment - I know the wiley ways of the mind (thoughts)/ego/devil and there is a definite difference between my imagination or a gift of insight...but to explain that to another is difficult unless in person where they can look into your eyes and feel you ---typing is very difficult to transmit a feeling and to strangers that  have no clue who you are really.. Skeptics abound -who cares.

Gotta run for now - sorry I have not had time to find this thread earlier.

Thanks, Elaine   

You may want to get to know me more by clicking onto my name  -going to profile and clicking The person's last posts.  I'm going to on yours bec I'm interested on the mention of drugs that I missed - also I'm interested in your age. Thank you for posting, Nathan.
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