Dear k-pappy, I hope I can make this clear.

Daniel 9:24  Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

First there are 490 years prophesied against Israel which begin in 444 BC as a decree went forth from Artaxerxes of Persia sent Nehemiah to rebuild Jerusalem.

Daniel 9:25.  Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. (483 of the 490 years prophesied)

Daniel 9:26.  "And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, (after the 483 years) but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined." Now at this point we are reading of a coming prince, and it is not Jesus. The prince described is none other than the antichrist that will make a covenant with Israel at the start of the tribulation.

Daniel 9:27. "And he (The antichrist) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
 
Going back to the end of the 483 years we never read of a coming prince making a covenant with Israel at that time. Rome came after the 490 years in about 71 AD, some say 70 AD and destroyed Jerusalem. The 7 remaining years after Jesus was cut off actually became nothing but blessings as they had all things in common, etc. and that was the 70th week of Daniel. Presently I have a thread on prophesies of Daniel which can be more illuminating I think.

Thanks k-pappy in Jesus' name - larry2

Looking at Daniels Prophecy of 70 Weeks:

(1) The first part (7 weeks) relates to the rebuilding of Jerusalem.
(2) The second part (62 weeks) takes up to the beginning of Christ’s earthly ministry.
(3) The third part (1 week) begins with the start of Christ’s public ministry (AD 27) and sees the crucifixion half way through it (AD 30), which is the start of the clock of natural Israel’s probationary opportunity (40 yrs) to accept or reject the Messiah’s message and once-all-sufficient atonement. The concluding 3 ½ yrs saw Israel’s wanton rejection of the once-all-sufficient atonement, the rebellious continuation of the NOW abolished order of Old Testament sacrifice (which is “the overspreading of abominations”). The Church also received its public manifestation and baptism of fire at Pentecost and, in obedience to Christ’s commission, entered into the fulfillment of advancing the Gospel to the (once darkened) nations that have NOW being open to the Gospel.

Daniel 9:24

Daniel 9:24 was fulfilled in Israel’s king – Christ Jesus, “Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to (1) finish the transgression, and to (2) make an end of sins, and to (3) make reconciliation for iniquity, and to (4) bring in everlasting righteousness, and to (5) seal up the vision and prophecy, and to (6) anoint the most Holy”


It is these six things alone that are clearly and deliberately predicted (in Daniel 9) to occur within the 70 weeks – thus “seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to…” Therefore, for one to apply this plain Messianic prophecy to anti-Christ could justifiably warrant the unenviable charge of peddling with gross blasphemy. After all, applying something to anti-Christ, which evidently relates ALONE to the Saviour, is grave error.

All these predictions were perfectly fulfilled in the person of Christ and in His wonderful earthly ministry. He spent 3 ½ years fulfilling every expectation that the Father demanded, from His arrival on the public scene (and His heavenly vindication from the Father after He was baptized) to His atoning death and His victorious resurrection for the grave. All of these predictions have been met in one man – the man Christ Jesus.

How could anti-Christ or any other mere mortal fulfill all or even one of these awesome Divine demands, such an idea is total blasphemy.

Let's start with the last one:

THE MOST HOLY WAS TO BE ANOINTED.

(a) Who is “the most holy”?

Luke 1:34-35 records of Jesus, “And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.”

Mark 1:23-25 says of Jesus, “And there was in their synagogue a man with an unclean spirit; and he cried out, Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art, the Holy One of God.”

I John 2:20 says of Jesus, “But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.”

Peter declared of Jesus on the day of Pentecost, in Acts 2:27, “Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.”

Peter declared of Jesus to the unbelieving Jews, in Acts 3:14, “ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you.”

Revelation 3:7 says of Christ, “to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth.”

 In Revelation 6:10 the Lord is described in similar terms, “And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?”

(b) When was the most holy to be anointed?

The anointing of Messiah ushered in the commencement of His earthly ministry and saw the beginning of the 70th week. When Jesus appeared on the scene, John cried: "Behold the Lamb of God." From the going forth of the commandment to restore and build Jerusalem unto Messiah was to be 483 years. When this time was fulfilled, those who knew this prophecy were expecting the appearance of the Messiah, that is, the Christ (Christ being the Greek form of the Hebrew word Messiah). Thus when John came baptizing, "the people were in EXPECTATION, and all men mused in their hearts of John, whether he were the Christ or not" (Lk. 3:15). John plainly told them that he was not the Christ he was only the forerunner.

The time had now come that Jesus should be “made manifest to Israel” (John 1:29 31). He was then baptized and after He had prayed:” (Luke 3:21,22). “the heaven was opened. And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased

This was Christ’s heavenly vindication on the Son of God. He had appeared to Israel right on time! Thus Jesus, in evident reference to the time prophecy of Daniel, said, “The time is fulfilled” (Mark 1:15) and as the Messiah, the Christ, the “anointed one,” he preached the gospel.

Peter testified of this truth to the other Apostles in Acts 10:36-38, “The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all). That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached; how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.”

When he entered the synagogue of Nazareth, he announced: "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me because he hath anointed me" (Lk. 4:18-22).

The disciples prayed to Father, whilst speaking of Christ, in Acts 4:27-28, “For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together, For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done.”

Daniel's prophecy revealed that the time period unto the Messiah would be 69 weeks (483 years). This clearly measured to the time when Jesus was baptized and anointed to begin his ministry as the Messiah, the Christ, the "Anointed One.

We can move on to the first five in the list of things that Daniel's prophecy requires.  In each case, as I mentioned earlier it is easy enough to show that they were are accomplished in Jesus at His first coming.

I would seem that your understanding of the prophecy is based upon this counting.  There are others who do not agree with your counting and place the beginning of the 70th week at Jesus baptism.  There is no end of analysis and counting of years and days that have gone into such studies.  Which one you want to end up accepting has more to do with what you wish to have as your eschatalogical position.  

You will argue over whether the 70th week began at Jesus baptism or with His entry into Jerusalem.  But then you argue that since it began with His entry into Jerusalem that there is (so far) a 2000+ year gap between the 69th and 70th week.  I find that truly amazing.  On the other hand I would argue that the 70th week began with Jesus' baptism and the 70 weeks are quite contiguous from beginning to end.  Much more rational so far as I am concerned.  Moreover, all six things in the prophecy are directly attributable to Jesus as testified by the NT Scriptures.

So if you can show me where the error is in counting Jesus as the most holy to be anointed, I might reconsider what I posted.  Or we can continue and I can show why five points of the prophecy were fulfilled in Jesus Christ so that there is no gap between the 69th and 70th weeks.

But I suspect that nothing will take you away from the premillennial approach to the end times.

OK,  I don't know where you are going with all of this, so I will just back off for now.  I would ask that you present a timeline that you think applies here as it relates to the topic title.

No, I am amill.  The only rapture will be when Christ returns for His church and judgement takes place.  We are in the millennium now.  The 1000 years, like all the other numbers in the Book of the Revelation is a figurative representation of a very long time.  It is the church age which we are now experiencing.  The only thing left to come is Jesus Christ and judgement.

When most other numbers are in fact fugurative in meaning, that all of sudden does the number 1000 becomes an actual number does not seem at all consistent.  It is after all prophecy and just about everything takes on a figurative sense to it.  Even the number seven, when directed at the seven churches is figurative while at the same time delineating seven actual churches.  The 144,000 appearing twice, the repeat of the sevens throughout Revelation, all are significant primarily in the figurative meaning attached.

As far as the six (or as you have listed them, seven) aspects of the 70 weeks, I think all have been accomplished by Jesus in his earthly ministry.  As I said earlier, to think of those as somehow being fulfilled by an antichrist which is yet to come somewhere off in the future is so against all rational thinking.  I at least agree with you that they are indeed blessings wrought by and through our Lord Jesus Christ.

There is no question that verse is a difficult one.  If you look at the various translations and then look at what many commentators had to say, it is obvious why there are difficulties.

If you look at the ASV, ESV or NASB, it is not so apparent that the same person is being referred to in 27a and 27b.  For example, the NASB says,

"And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate."

The implication is that the one who will come who makes desolate is not necessarily the "he" that confirms the convenant.

I think that it is certainly reasonable to treat 27a as refering to the Messiah.  That is the subject of vs. 24-26.  It notes the people of the prince in v. 26, but it is difficult to think that the "he" of 27a  is refering to the prince.  It is the people that is being spoken of, not the prince.  Thus it seems reasonable to take the "he" of 27a to refer to the he of vs.24-25 namely the Messiah.

But as I said, if you look at what the many scholars have to say about this verse, you come to the conclusion that it is a very difficult one to take any kind of a firm stand on.  It pretty much takes the flavor of the eschatology of the interpretor.  Therefore for me it is not a discriminator.