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Aliens are fallen angels?
« on: May 01, 2012, 04:58:32 PM »
I watched the Ancient Aliens series on History channel the other day.

This episode " Angels and aliens" really caught my attention. I think what we think about aliens today is the fallen angels or angels. It is just a problem of interpretation between our ancestors and people today.

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Re: Aliens are fallen angels?
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2012, 05:28:00 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2012, 05:50:14 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2012, 05:58:30 PM »
Let us not forget that the entire universe is created by God so any and all science, technology comes from the Creator of all things, IF you believe the Bible to be truth, which I do. So if there is spacecraft, don't you think maybe God has some. What is behind those clouds??
Job 36:29 Also can any understand the spreadings of the clouds, or the noise of his tabernacle?
KJV

We seem to think that God is not aware nor in control of all the things that happen in the earth, written in the Bible nor the book of Revelation yet it is Him who is bringing it to pass and has told us the end from the beginning.
Don't get me wrong, man chooses his destiny as in walking upright or down low in this earth.
There are good angels and bad angels. And they are all awaiting their turn to do the commands of God says the Bible. Many think that Satan is the one who brings disaster upon the earth, but if you notice, he did nothing until God gave him the OK. What Satan does is TEMPT man to sin against God, then they teach their children, then they teach their children until the whole world is mostly evil. Once he entices us to sin against God, then he becomes the Adversary or Accuser of the brethren so that God, being JUST, has to bring judgment upon them.
Remember Daniel and the lions den? Hamon and the destruction of the Jews? How in both accounts talked the king into making a DECREE against breakers of a law, just to entrap God's people to accuse them to bring forth judgment upon their heads.
In Ezekiel you will notice the description of the Word of God appearing to him. Take a look, if you had never seen an aircraft would you do better explaining it?
We seem to think our enemy is from another planet, yet we are told to seek the far country as we await our Lord who is coming to fight the UNGODLY beasts of the earth, who refuse to submit themselves to the Word of truth.

Ezek 1:15 Now as I beheld the living creatures, behold one wheel upon the earth by the living creatures, with his four faces.

16 The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel.

17 When they went, they went upon their four sides: and they turned not when they went.

18 As for their rings, they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings were full of eyes round about them four.

19 And when the living creatures went, the wheels went by them: and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up.
20 Whithersoever the spirit was to go, they went, thither was their spirit to go; and the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.

21 When those went, these went; and when those stood, these stood; and when those were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.

22 And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above.
23 And under the firmament were their wings straight, the one toward the other: every one had two, which covered on this side, and every one had two, which covered on that side, their bodies.

24 And when they went, I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of great waters, as the voice of the Almighty, the voice of speech, as the noise of an host: when they stood, they let down their wings.

25 And there was a voice from the firmament that was over their heads, when they stood, and had let down their wings.

26 And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it.
KJV
Rev 10:10 And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.

11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2012, 06:54:24 PM »
Let us not forget that the entire universe is created by God so any and all science, technology comes from the Creator of all things, IF you believe the Bible to be truth, which I do. So if there is spacecraft, don't you think maybe God has some. What is behind those clouds??
Job 36:29 Also can any understand the spreadings of the clouds, or the noise of his tabernacle?
KJV

I totally agree. I think the ancestors was trying to explain the spacecraft in their limited understanding to us in the bible. God create everything and He is not from this earth.

The noise of his tabernacle may be the sound of his very advanced spacescraft.

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We seem to think that God is not aware nor in control of all the things that happen in the earth, written in the Bible nor the book of Revelation yet it is Him who is bringing it to pass and has told us the end from the beginning.
Don't get me wrong, man chooses his destiny as in walking upright or down low in this earth.
There are good angels and bad angels. And they are all awaiting their turn to do the commands of God says the Bible. Many think that Satan is the one who brings disaster upon the earth, but if you notice, he did nothing until God gave him the OK. What Satan does is TEMPT man to sin against God, then they teach their children, then they teach their children until the whole world is mostly evil. Once he entices us to sin against God, then he becomes the Adversary or Accuser of the brethren so that God, being JUST, has to bring judgment upon them.
Remember Daniel and the lions den? Hamon and the destruction of the Jews? How in both accounts talked the king into making a DECREE against breakers of a law, just to entrap God's people to accuse them to bring forth judgment upon their heads.
In Ezekiel you will notice the description of the Word of God appearing to him. Take a look, if you had never seen an aircraft would you do better explaining it?
We seem to think our enemy is from another planet, yet we are told to seek the far country as we await our Lord who is coming to fight the UNGODLY beasts of the earth, who refuse to submit themselves to the Word of truth.

There are good and bad "aliens" too.  Our enemies are on this earth and the air around it. The one world government that's about to form. Remember the world is given to Satam and we are living in our enemies's territory. Satan is also the prince of air, he and his followers are the aliens with advanced technologies that will one day fly down with their fake benevolent claim to bring human into a new advance civilization, may even claim to have cure for cancer. Just what they did to our ancient ancestors, and our ancestors mistaken they are Gods and worshipped them. Massive people will be fallen, even many saints will be tricked in the end time.

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Ezek 1:15 Now as I beheld the living creatures, behold one wheel upon the earth by the living creatures, with his four faces.

16 The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel.

17 When they went, they went upon their four sides: and they turned not when they went.

18 As for their rings, they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings were full of eyes round about them four.

19 And when the living creatures went, the wheels went by them: and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up.
20 Whithersoever the spirit was to go, they went, thither was their spirit to go; and the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.

21 When those went, these went; and when those stood, these stood; and when those were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.

22 And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above.
23 And under the firmament were their wings straight, the one toward the other: every one had two, which covered on this side, and every one had two, which covered on that side, their bodies.

24 And when they went, I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of great waters, as the voice of the Almighty, the voice of speech, as the noise of an host: when they stood, they let down their wings.

25 And there was a voice from the firmament that was over their heads, when they stood, and had let down their wings.

26 And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it.
KJV


These are the description of UFO's and aliens which can be the angels or fallen anges
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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2012, 07:54:22 PM »
Most Christians would think that you've gone off the deep end or are far out in left field for even making a topic like this, but I don't. I would say that they're one and the same. Satan is referred to as the prince of the power of the "air" (Eph.2:2), or the ruler of the kingdom of the air. This refers to the atmospheric and starry regions where he abides. In the book of Daniel, his vision saw a final kingdom that would rule the world, and states that they shall mingle themselves with the "seed" of men: This would imply that "they" are something other than human beings. In 2nd Thess., God said that He will send STRONG DELUSION (literally, energy of deceit) in the last days so the unbelieving world will believe the lie. Most of Christendom would laugh at the mention of aliens, but sadly that sort of mentality would only leave them clueless when these beings actually reveal themselves in a deceitful way. Most likely pretending to be our creators (or elohim as they often say), and that we are nothing more than their "science projects". The Nordic aliens with the blonde hair and perfect face are most likely evil fallen angelic beings masquerading as friendly space aliens, but they're probably from the pits of hell. Then we have the non-cororeal beings that possess people or manifest as shadows. They're most likely the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim hybrids of Genesis 6. In any case, they're all working together behind the scenes to try to thwart God's plan. They're all going to be cast into the Lake of Fire at the end of history because Jesus is Lord!!!

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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2012, 08:18:20 PM »
Let us not forget that the entire universe is created by God so any and all science, technology comes from the Creator of all things, IF you believe the Bible to be truth, which I do. So if there is spacecraft, don't you think maybe God has some. What is behind those clouds??
Job 36:29 Also can any understand the spreadings of the clouds, or the noise of his tabernacle?
KJV

I totally agree. I think the ancestors was trying to explain the spacecraft in their limited understanding to us in the bible. God create everything and He is not from this earth.

The noise of his tabernacle may be the sound of his very advanced spacescraft.


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Yes, that is what Job was saying that when the clouds part the noise of the tabernacle was seen and heard which can be spacecraft. The Hebrew children followed a cloud, Jesus was taken up in a cloud, Moses went up the mountain surrounded by clouds and came down with a glowing face from the glory of God.

There are good and bad "aliens" too.  Our enemies are on this earth and the air around it. The one world government that's about to form. Remember the world is given to Sat am and we are living in our enemies territory. Satan is also the prince of air, he and his followers are the aliens with advanced technologies that will one day fly down with their fake benevolent claim to bring human into a new advance civilization, may even claim to have cure for cancer. Just what they did to our ancient ancestors, and our ancestors mistaken they are Gods and worshipped them. Massive people will be fallen, even many saints will be tricked in the end time.

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Yes I agree so we must be quick on our sWord so that we won't be deceived. Christ is our physician, not Pharmekia, technology to clone, creating life etc... are not for us to have. We are to be like God in attributes, not Sovereignty. Satan has possession of the SOULS, not the earth. The earth always belongs to God yet when Adam chose to eat from the tree of knowledge to learn how to  look good outside, but evil motives inside, he gave his allegiance to Satan to follow him receiving his words, producing his offspring/fruit. God gave the dominion to Adam, so that meant what ever the men do God must allow it, but not agree with it. But... When Jesus died on that cross and paid that sin debt that redeemed us from the curse, The Holy Spirit was once again available to those who would receive the Word to teach them how to overcome their captivity of sinful lifestyles and we became his body on this earth to take back dominion by casting out unclean spirits, heal the sick and bring them this good news of the kingdom at hand. Remember what Jesus said to the sinner on his RIGHT side?
Luke 23:42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.

43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise. KJV
Christians are supposed to be living in the kingdom of heaven NOW. We are not of this world, just in it to expand the kingdom of God.
 Luke 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
KJV
Christ is from the far country, just as Abraham sought the far country, meaning we walk by faith for the things that we don't see but God promises us in His Word, where the world walks by only what they can see.

These are the description of UFOs and aliens which can be the angels or fallen Angel's


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Well it says it is the Word of the LORD that came to Ezekiel, meaning Christ, for he is the Word of God.


Ezek 1:3 The word of the LORD came expressly unto Ezekiel the priest, the son of Buzi, in the land of the Chaldeans by the river Chebar; and the hand of the LORD was there upon him.

4 And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire.
KJV

That is why it is sooo important to be familiar with the Word of God so that we will not be deceived.
Rev 10:10 And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.

11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.
KJV

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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2012, 10:02:56 PM »
It's the "Think Green" people I tell you that have to be considered way out and alien. Have you hugged a tree today, and sixty dollar light bulbs; who'd have thunk it? Whazzzup?  ::lookaround::


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« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2012, 10:30:57 PM »
 
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Most Christians would think that you've gone off the deep end or are far out in left field for even making a topic like this, but I don't. I would say that they're one and the same.

And they have been visited the earth since the very beginning. If we look at the ancient civilizations like Egypt, India, Iraq, the Mayan...etc. We have plenty of clues that they came to the earth and pretend they are gods with their advanced technologies, fool the ancient people to worshipped them. That's to defy and challenge our God. The anicent tales actually match the story of flood in the bible, the sons of God came down and married the daughters of man, the "aliens" or fallen angels had been living amoug human for quite a long time, and produce offsprings, they were gone or destroyed after the flood. However, they are coming back, the end time will be the days of Noah.

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Satan is referred to as the prince of the power of the "air" (Eph.2:2), or the ruler of the kingdom of the air. This refers to the atmospheric and starry regions where he abides. In the book of Daniel, his vision saw a final kingdom that would rule the world, and states that they shall mingle themselves with the "seed" of men: This would imply that "they" are something other than human beings.


I think that final kingdom will be the one world government that is about to form.

The aliens or fallen angels are messing with Human's DNA now, just look at the reports of the abduction cases, they are creating hybrids, this is different than they actually married the daughters of men. Nonetheless, both ways are intend to defy God's original plan for angels and human. Who would do such things?


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In 2nd Thess., God said that He will send STRONG DELUSION (literally, energy of deceit) in the last days so the unbelieving world will believe the lie. Most of Christendom would laugh at the mention of aliens, but sadly that sort of mentality would only leave them clueless when these beings actually reveal themselves in a deceitful way.

Ignorance and close minded are particular dangerous in this situation.

Christians are responsible to be informed and alert, espectially in the endtime. We have been warned.



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Most likely pretending to be our creators (or elohim as they often say), and that we are nothing more than their "science projects". The Nordic aliens with the blonde hair and perfect face are most likely evil fallen angelic beings masquerading as friendly space aliens, but they're probably from the pits of hell. Then we have the non-cororeal beings that possess people or manifest as shadows. They're most likely the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim hybrids of Genesis 6. In any case, they're all working together behind the scenes to try to thwart God's plan. They're all going to be cast into the Lake of Fire at the end of history because Jesus is Lord!!!
In Christ,
Grapesicle

When they come, they will certainly pretend they are benevolent, probably will bring cure for cancer or claim that it is time for human to go to another level of advance civilization and they can help.

That's when a lot of people will be fallen, include a lot of saints. The prosecution of Christians will be intense, because we know what they truly are, we won't follow them, the world will think the Christians are holding the entire human race back. This is just my guess how it will turn out. Hope it will not happen like that.

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lynx




 
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« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2012, 10:47:48 PM »
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Yes I agree so we must be quick on our sWord so that we won't be deceived. Christ is our physician, not Pharmekia, technology to clone, creating life etc... are not for us to have. We are to be like God in attributes, not Sovereignty. Satan has possession of the SOULS, not the earth. The earth always belongs to God yet when Adam chose to eat from the tree of knowledge to learn how to  look good outside, but evil motives inside, he gave his allegiance to Satan to follow him receiving his words, producing his offspring/fruit. God gave the dominion to Adam, so that meant what ever the men do God must allow it, but not agree with it. But... When Jesus died on that cross and paid that sin debt that redeemed us from the curse, The Holy Spirit was once again available to those who would receive the Word to teach them how to overcome their captivity of sinful lifestyles and we became his body on this earth to take back dominion by casting out unclean spirits, heal the sick and bring them this good news of the kingdom at hand. Remember what Jesus said to the sinner on his RIGHT side?
Luke 23:42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.

43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise. KJV
Christians are supposed to be living in the kingdom of heaven NOW. We are not of this world, just in it to expand the kingdom of God.
 Luke 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
KJV
Christ is from the far country, just as Abraham sought the far country, meaning we walk by faith for the things that we don't see but God promises us in His Word, where the world walks by only what they can see.

 Well it says it is the Word of the LORD that came to Ezekiel, meaning Christ, for he is the Word of God.


Ezek 1:3 The word of the LORD came expressly unto Ezekiel the priest, the son of Buzi, in the land of the Chaldeans by the river Chebar; and the hand of the LORD was there upon him.

4 And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire.
KJV

That is why it is sooo important to be familiar with the Word of God so that we will not be deceived.


Exactly. The other way to discern if they are fallen angels is to ask what do they (aliens) think about Jesus. If the answers are discredit Jesus, we will know who they are.


 
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« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2012, 11:13:17 PM »
It's the "Think Green" people I tell you that have to be considered way out and alien. Have you hugged a tree today, and sixty dollar light bulbs; who'd have thunk it? Whazzzup?  ::lookaround::




Heh Heh....

I guess they can't be vegetarians then. We are barbaric if eat vegetables, the trees and vegetables will be in pain if we eat them....

Let's go back to the subject, I guess you don't believe in aliens? Do you know Presidents Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Eisenhower...etc are all UFOs believers?

Even the Pope and his science team believe it and is preparing their billion followers to alien disclosure?

Let me show you some articles:

The Return of Aliens, as the days of Noah?
http://www.khouse.org/articles/1996/43/

"There continues to be a flow of articles, books, and entertainment programs dealing with UFO's, aliens, and the like.1 Many wonder if there is a connection or relationship to the prediction of our Lord in Luke 17:26:

"And as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of Man."
The emergence of the "Nephilim" was what brought about the Flood of Noah. Who were they? Is the current interest in the possibility of "alien" involvements some how of Biblical relevance?
 The Nephilim

Genesis 6 indicates that the "sons of God" (B'nai Elohim) took wives of the "daughters of men," which gave birth to the "Nephilim." What on earth was going on?

The B'nai Elohim is a term that refers to angels. It occurs four times in the Old Testament 2 and is rendered "Angels of God" in the ancient Septuagin translation.3 The intrusion of certain angels into the human family resulted in unnatural offspring termed Nephilim, which derives from the Hebrew naphal (to fall), or the Fallen Ones. (The Greek Septuagint renders this term gigantes, which actually means "earth-born." This is often misunderstood to mean "giants"--which they also happen to have been, incidentally.)

"Line of Seth?"

The early church viewed the B'nai Elohim as angels up through the late fourth century: Justin, Athenagoras, Cyprian, Eusebius, et al. (also Josephus, Philo, Judeaus, and the Apochrypha regard this view).

Celsus and Julian the Apostate exploited the older common belief to attack Christianity. Cyril of Alexandria, in his reply, repudiated the orthodox position. Julius Africanus (a contemporary of Origen) introduced the theory that the "sons of God" simply referred to the genealogical line of Seth, which was committed to preserving the true worship of God.

Seemingly more appealing, the "Sethite theory" prevailed into the Medieval Church, and many still hold this view.

This view, however, has several serious problems. There is no indication that the Sethites were distinguished for piety; they were not exempted from the charge of general wickedness which brought on the flood. In fact, Seth's son Enosh was the one who introduced apostasy to that world. This is masked by a mistranslation of Genesis 4:25, which should read:

"...then men began to profane the name of the Lord."4
Furthermore, when the faithful marry the unfaithful, they do not give birth to unnatural offspring! And the "daughters of men" were not differentiated with regard to the Flood. All were lost.5
 (Incidentally, the Nephilim didn't completely end with the flood. Genesis 6:4 mentions, "...and also after that..." We find the sons fo Anak, the Anakim, later in the Old Testament.)6

The Reason for the Flood

It was the infusion of these strange beings into the human predicament that brought on the Flood of Noah. The Flood was preceded by four generations of prophets/preachers warning of the coming judgment: Enoch, Methuselah, Lamech, and Noah.

It seems that this was part of Satan's stratagem to corrupt the line of Adam to prevent the fulfillment of the Messianic redemption. Noah was apparently unique in that his genealogy was still uncorrupted.7

The strange events which led to the flood are also alluded to in ancient mythologies.8 The legends of the Greek "titans"--partly terrestrial, partly celestial--embrace these same memories.9 (The Greek titan is linguistically linked to the Chaldean sheitan, and the Hebrew satan.)

The Angels that Sinned

There is a great deal revealed in the Bible about angels. They can appear in human form,10 they spoke as men, took men by the hand, even ate men's food,11 are capable of direct physical combat,12 some are the principal forces behind the world powers.13 They don't marry (in Heaven),14 but apparently are (or were) capable of much mischief.15
 
The strange events of Genesis Chapter 6 are also referred to in the New Testament. Peter refers to events preceding the flood of Noah:

"For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment..." 2 Peter 2:4
 
(Peter uses the term tartarus, here translated as hell. This was a Greek term for "the dark abode of woe, the pit of darkness in the unseen world." Homer's Iliad portrays tartarus "as far below hades as the earth is below Heaven...")

Also, in Jude, it mentions them:

"And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire." Jude 6,7.
 
Scripture warns against meddling with the spirit world. The punishment which overtook the angels that sinned was to emphasize the serious nature of apostasy: beings of a higher order than ours have been hurled down into a dark place of confinement where they have remained for thousands of years.

God has not changed His attitude toward them; time has not mitigated the seriousness of their sin. False teachers are prewritten into condemnation.

The "Sons of God" Return?

There are many who believe that the recent "alien" involvements are also demonic and are just another precursor to the end-time. Some also believe that the Coming World Leader (for more information on the Coming World Leader, see our Briefing Package) may boast of an "alien connection." It would be consistent from what else we can infer from Scripture.

(The Restrainer of II Thessalonians 2 may be restraining far more than we have any suspicion of! When He is removed, the world is in for some astonishing surprises!)16

In the meantime, what are our weapons of protection against such things? We do, indeed, "wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

Our armor is well defined in Ephesians 6:10-17. "

Two more articles about this subject

Mischievous Angels or Sethites?
http://www.khouse.org/articles/1997/110/

The Return of the Nephilim?
http://www.khouse.org/articles/1997/22/

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Re: Aliens are fallen angels?
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2012, 11:47:43 PM »

I guess you don't believe in aliens? Do you know Presidents Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Eisenhower...etc are all UFOs believers?

Even the Pope and his science team believe it and is preparing their billion followers to alien disclosure?



Au contraire. Normally where I live there are many aliens among us; I seen em. During fruit picking season their number increases dramatically.

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Re: Aliens are fallen angels?
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2012, 08:34:55 AM »

Au contraire. Normally where I live there are many aliens among us; I seen em. During fruit picking season their number increases dramatically.


If space aliens don't exist, how will you explain this?

1952 UFOs flying over Washington D.C.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_Washington_D.C._UFO_incident

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Re: Aliens are fallen angels?
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2012, 09:29:27 AM »
Yup, this is it per the link you supplied.

"Before leaving Washington, Ruppelt did speak with an Air Force radar specialist, Captain Roy James, who felt that unusual weather conditions could have caused the unknown radar targets."

"Samford also stated that the unknown radar targets could be explained by temperature inversion, which was present in the air over Washington on both nights the radar returns were reported."

"Samford admitted that there had been "hundreds" of such contacts where Air Force fighter interceptions had taken place, but stated they were all "fruitless."

"May eventually concluded that he was simply seeing a star that was distorted by the atmosphere, and that its "movement" was an illusion "

"Dr. Donald Menzel, an astronomer at Harvard University, and Philip Klass, a senior editor for Aviation Week magazine, would also argue in favor of the temperature inversion/mirage hypothesis."

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« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2012, 10:19:20 AM »
Yup, this is it per the link you supplied.

"Before leaving Washington, Ruppelt did speak with an Air Force radar specialist, Captain Roy James, who felt that unusual weather conditions could have caused the unknown radar targets."

"Samford also stated that the unknown radar targets could be explained by temperature inversion, which was present in the air over Washington on both nights the radar returns were reported."

"Samford admitted that there had been "hundreds" of such contacts where Air Force fighter interceptions had taken place, but stated they were all "fruitless."

"May eventually concluded that he was simply seeing a star that was distorted by the atmosphere, and that its "movement" was an illusion "

"Dr. Donald Menzel, an astronomer at Harvard University, and Philip Klass, a senior editor for Aviation Week magazine, would also argue in favor of the temperature inversion/mirage hypothesis."

There were a lot of people dispute such explanation:

"According to a story printed by INS, the United States Weather Bureau also disagreed with the temperature inversion hypothesis, one official stating that "such an inversion ordinarily would appear on a radar screen as a steady line, rather than as single objects as were sighted on the airport radarscope."[6]
 
Also, according to Ruppelt, when he was able to interview the radar and control tower personnel at Washington National Airport, not a single person agreed with the Air Force explanation. Michael Wertheimer, a researcher for the government-funded Condon Report, investigated the case in 1966. He found that the radar witnesses still disputed the Air Force explanation, but that did not stop the report from agreeing with the temperature inversion/mirage explanation (Clark, 660). Ruppelt related that on July 27 the control tower at Washington National had called the control tower at Andrews AFB and notified them that their radar had an unknown object just south of the Andrews control tower, directly over the Andrews AFB radio range station. According to Ruppelt, when the Andrews control tower personnel looked they all saw "a huge fiery-orange sphere" hovering over the range station (Ruppelt, 160). When Ruppelt interviewed the tower personnel several days later, they insisted that they had been mistaken and had merely seen a bright star. However, when Ruppelt checked an astronomical chart he found that there were no bright stars over the station that night, and that he had "heard from a good source that the tower men had been 'persuaded' a bit" by superior officers to state that their sighting was merely a star.

There were also witnesses who claimed to see structured craft and not merely "glows" or bright lights. On July 19 an Army artillery officer, Joseph Gigandet, was sitting on the front porch of his home in Alexandria, Virginia, across the Potomac River from Washington. At 9:30 p.m. he claimed to see "a red cigar-shaped object" which sailed slowly over his house. Gigandet estimated the object's size as comparable to a DC-7 airplane and at about 10,000 feet altitude; he also claimed that the object had a "series of lights very closely set together" on its sides. The object eventually flew back over his house a second time, which led Gigandet to assume that it was circling the area (Clark, 657). When the object flew away a second time, it turned a deeper red color and moved over the city of Washington itself; this occurred less than two hours before Edward Nugent first spotted the unknown objects on his radar at Washington National. Gigandet claimed that his neighbor, an FBI agent, also saw the object (Clark, 657). Dr. James E. McDonald, a physicist at the University of Arizona and a prominent ufologist in the 1960s, did his own analysis of the Washington sightings. After interviewing four pilot eyewitnesses and five radar personnel, McDonald argued that the Air Force explanation was "physically impossible" (Clark, 661). Harry Barnes told McDonald that the radar targets "were not shapeless blobs such as one gets from ground returns under anomalous propagation", and that he was certain the unknown radar blips were solid targets; Howard Cocklin agreed with Barnes"
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