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Is Jesus really God?
« on: January 23, 2012, 01:51:07 AM »
no offense meant, this is a question i read someplace else. care to answer?

"Is Jesus really God? Did he actually claim to be God? Is there any room for ambiguity?"





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Is Jesus really God?
« on: January 23, 2012, 01:51:07 AM »

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Re: Is Jesus really God?
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2012, 02:39:17 AM »

No offense meant; this is a question I read someplace else. Care to answer?

"Is Jesus really God? Did he actually claim to be God? Is there any room for ambiguity?"



Yes Jesus is God and He makes the following statement in Isiah 43:11. Strong's Jehovah="the existing One"  1) the proper name of the one true God

(Isaiah 43:11)   I, even I, am the LORD  (Jehovah); and beside me there is no saviour.  (12)  I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD  (Jehovah),  that I am God.

(Isaiah 44:6)  Thus saith the LORD (Jehovah)  the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.  Notice here that Jehovah states there is no other God.

(Isaiah 40:3) The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness  (John the Baptist), Prepare ye the way of the LORD  (Jehovah), make straight in the desert a highway for our God. Who was John making the way for? Jesus.

(Matt. 3:1-3)  In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea,  (2)  And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.  (3)  For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord  (Jehovah), make his paths straight.  Here John the Baptist calls Jesus Jehovah!

The Father is God -  (Isaiah 43:10)  Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD  (Jehovah),  and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

Jesus, the Son is God -  (John 1:1)  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.  This is not "the word was a God,"  because  (Isaiah 43:10) repeated  ". . understand that I am he (Jehovah): before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

The Holy Spirit is God -  (Acts 5:3-4)  But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?  (4)  Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.

Hope this helps; I normally use this when Jehovah Witnesses come by. Someone may switch this to Theology, but I'll let them have the experience.  ::smile::

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Re: Is Jesus really God?
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2012, 03:16:15 AM »
I had to do some more searching through the Word because I just wrote what I could find! So I updated it a bit but some are still the same!

1 Timothy 3:16
"For behold great is the Mystery of God:
 God was (MAN-IFESTED) in the FLESH
 Justified (IN) the Spirit
 Seen by angels
 Preached to the Gentiles
 Believed on (IN) the World
 Received up in Glory."-Resurrection
 
Also John 1:1-5
In the beginning was the WORD/Christ,and the Word was with God,and the Word (WAS) God.He was in the beginning with God.
All things were made through HIM,and without HIM nothing was made.
In HIM was life(Breath of Life),and the life was the light of men.
And the light shines in the darkness,and the darkness did not comprehend(overcome)him.

Some might think this is a strange observation but let's look at an egg.Is there not 3 parts(trinity)to an egg?
The yoke is the Holy Spirit
The white is Christ
The shell is God,united WE are one within HIM,for the Lord Himself protects US!

I believe that Jesus was of flesh & the spirit of God on earth but the only thing that doesn't make sense is why would He cry out to Himself in Heaven when He was dying on the cross "My God,Why have You forsaken me", or Him praying at Mt.Gethsemane to Himself! I do believe in Heaven they are 2 seperate Spiritual entities but of the same Spiritual mind if that makes sense because in
Gen.1:26,God says "Let US make man in OUR image."

Colossians 1:15 says,"He is the image of the invisible God,the firstborn over all creation.For by Him all things were created that are in Heaven and that are on earth,visible and invisible."
That & Gen.1:26 tells me that Jesus was the 1st Spirit that God ever created before God started creation by creating Himself a Son in Heaven 1st.Then Jesus came as a volunteer to die for His Father then US to save US from sin through repentence!

John 10:30 Jesus says,"I and My Father are One!"

J.ehovah's/Yahweh
E.arthly
S.pirit
U.nited with
S.on

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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2012, 03:35:25 AM »
Mark 10:18 “Why do you call me good?
Galatians 4:16 Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth?

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Re: Is Jesus really God?
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2012, 03:28:25 AM »
thank you very much fellows, your answers truly helped  ::smile::

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Re: Is Jesus really God?
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2012, 11:17:24 AM »
"Is Jesus really God? Did he actually claim to be God? Is there any room for ambiguity?"

Yes, there is room for ambiguity ... but God had this done on purpose,
which is a very similar deal to Jesus teaching in parables a whole lot.
He said the reason for the parables was to fulfil Scripture, which said ...
the spiritually blind would not see, and the spiritually deaf would not see.

The Lord teaches spiritual Truth through the Holy Spirit,
NOT through black words printed on white paper.
I.E. an unsaved person has NO idea what Scripture is talking about
(historically he does, but spiritually he does NOT).
« Last Edit: February 09, 2012, 11:26:29 AM by John Zain »
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God's precious Scriptures are of NO benefit to those who cannot (or will not) believe them!
"For as many as are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God" (Romans 8:14)
To gain salvation, a BAC must be willing to co-operate with the Holy Spirit in removing sin.
God's Spirit will lead him to repent daily of his sins (1 John 1:9), and other important things,

E.G. no BAC will be saved who has unforgiveness or ANY unrepented-of habitual sin in his life.

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Re: Is Jesus really God?
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2012, 09:07:42 PM »
It's not so much ambiguity as it is the wrong question being asked.

Did God really become a man?

Is Jesus really a man?

The emphasis on his humanity is such that it would be a shame for God to go to so much trouble and we miss it somehow.
Give to those who hold to untruth
Questions they cannot answer and
Answers they cannot question

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Re: Is Jesus really God?
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2012, 05:27:46 PM »
with regard the question in the title of the thread...


YES!

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« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2012, 10:37:25 PM »
no offense meant, this is a question i read someplace else. care to answer?

"Is Jesus really God? Did he actually claim to be God? Is there any room for ambiguity?"






Jesus who is THE WORD of God says this about his Father who was in heaven when the Word became flesh, sent of the Father so the Word could be forsaken and die and the new covenant Word be resurrected on the 3rd day.
The Father is too mighty to come to us, so He sends us His Word which is His Son. The Word is the Seed of God that makes us a child of God by receiving the baptism of the Holy Spirit who draws us to the Word.

John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
KJV

Matt 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
KJV

Matt 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
KJV

Matt 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
KJV

Matt 7:11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
KJV

Matt 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
KJV

Matt 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
KJV

Matt 18:14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.
KJV

Matt 18:10 Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.
KJV

Matt 18:19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
KJV

Matt 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
KJV

Mark 11:25 And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.

26 But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.
KJV

Luke 11:2 And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.
KJV
Rev 10:10 And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.

11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.
KJV

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Re: Is Jesus really God?
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2012, 05:42:10 AM »
no offense meant, this is a question i read someplace else. care to answer?

"Is Jesus really God? Did he actually claim to be God? Is there any room for ambiguity?"






Jesus who is THE WORD of God says this about his Father who was in heaven when the Word became flesh, sent of the Father so the Word could be forsaken and die and the new covenant Word be resurrected on the 3rd day.
The Father is too mighty to come to us, so He sends us His Word which is His Son. The Word is the Seed of God that makes us a child of God by receiving the baptism of the Holy Spirit who draws us to the Word.

John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
KJV

Matt 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
KJV

Matt 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
KJV

Matt 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
KJV

Matt 7:11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
KJV

Matt 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
KJV

Matt 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
KJV

Matt 18:14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.
KJV

Matt 18:10 Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.
KJV

Matt 18:19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
KJV

Matt 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
KJV

Mark 11:25 And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.

26 But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.
KJV

Luke 11:2 And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.
KJV



Touching...........pay no attention to this please................just saying.......

Jesus is God...........

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« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2012, 07:37:15 AM »
"Is Jesus really God?

Yes, Jesus really is God.


I Jn. 5:20 -  "He is the true God and eternal life"

Phil. 2:6 -    "Who, being in very nature God"

Jn. 1:1 -      "the Word was God"
                 
Jn. 20:28 -  "My Lord and my God"
                 
Titus 2:13 - "our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus"
                  
Heb. 1:8 -    "of the Son, 'Thy throne, O God, is forever..."
                 
II Pet. 1:1 - "God and Savior, Jesus Christ"



"How foolish can you be? After starting your Christian lives in the Spirit, why are you now trying to become perfect by your own human effort?" (Gal. 3:3)

"He has enabled us to be ministers of His new covenant. This is a covenant not of written laws, but of the Spirit. The old written covenant ends in death; but under the new covenant, the Spirit gives life." (2 Cor. 3:6)