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The Animal Apocalypse
« on: January 19, 2011, 07:03:53 AM »
Throughout the New Testament, there are references to certain types of animals, used to signify different groups of people.  Of particular interest are sheep.  For instance:

"My sheep know My voice" and
"the Lamb looking as though it had been slain"

but there are also other groups mentioned in contrast to the sheep:

"grievous wolves shall enter the fold" and
"Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine"

What you may not know, and what I hope to show you in this post, is that
1) Many/most of these metaphors have a common origin.
2) Each of the animals mentioned refers to a certain ethnic people.
3) What some of these identifications are.

Put it all together, and it can add a new perspective to some of the familiar parables of the Gospels, and even perhaps shine a little light into the books of Daniel, and Revelation.

Jewish prophets, even from the beginning, used animals to represent foreign nations, especially enemy nations.  Why?  To protect their safety...  Poetic license...  A dearth of words in the Hebrew language...  Some of all of the above, probably.  At any rate, one thing we can say is that the farther forward we go in history, the more prevalent it becomes.  And, that it is mainly confined to the prophetic books, and the parables.

The master reference for this subject is actually a passage from an intertestamental book - the book of Enoch.  The reason is simple; it recaps known history, using the apocryphal animal names.  So we can easily see which animals refer to which peoples, when we read it.

To summarize:

White Bulls - patriarchs of Israel
Black Bulls - descendants of Cain, and/or of Ham
Red Bulls - other descendants of the patriarchs who are not in a direct lineage with the Israelites
Sheep - Israelites (Jacob to the end of the Greek empire)
Lambs - Israelites (Hasmonean era onwards)
Animals becoming Men - Men who became notable prophets.  Noah & Moses, for example, in this text.
Asses - descendants of Ishmael (Gen 16:11-12)
Boars - Edomites and Samaritans
Elephants and Camels - Giants intermingled among the people
Stars - Angels
Stars Fallen to Earth - Fallen Angels
Wolves - Egyptians
Dogs - Canaanites
Foxes - Philistines
Leopards - Medes/Persians
Lions - Babylon sometimes, Judah sometimes
Tigers - Assyria
Eagles, Ravens, & Kites - Syria, under the Seleucid dynasty
Various Amalgamated Animals represent coalitions of ethnic groups - alliances

I would encourage anyone to read it for themselves...

CHAPTER LXXXV.
1. And after this I saw another dream, and I will show the whole dream to thee, my son. 2. And Enoch lifted up (his voice) and spake to his son Methuselah: 'To thee, my son, will I speak: hear my words--incline thine ear to the dream-vision of thy father. 3. Before I took thy mother Edna, I saw in a vision on my bed, and behold a bull came forth from the earth, and that bull was white; and after it came forth a heifer, and along with this (latter) came forth two bulls, one of them black and the other red. 4. And that black bull gored the red one and pursued him over the earth, and thereupon I could no longer see that red bull. 5. But that black bull grew and that heifer went with him, and I saw that many oxen proceeded from him which resembled and followed him. 6. And that cow, that first one, went from the presence of that first bull in order to seek that red one, but found him not, and lamented with a great lamentation over him and sought him. 7. And I looked till that first bull came to her and quieted her, and from that time onward she cried no more. 8. And after that she bore another white bull, and after him she bore many bulls and black cows.

9. And I saw in my sleep that white bull likewise grow and become a great white bull, and from Him proceeded many white bulls, and they resembled him. And they began to beget many white bulls, which resembled them, one following the other, (even) many.

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The Animal Apocalypse
« on: January 19, 2011, 07:03:53 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2011, 07:11:29 AM »

Forget not the Red Heifer.

Numbers 19:2  This is the ordinance of the law which the LORD hath commanded, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, that they bring thee a red heifer without spot, wherein is no blemish, and upon which never came yoke. 

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There is no such book as the book of Enoch, someone is pulling you leg, cant you feel it?

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Re: The Animal Apocalypse
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2011, 08:24:57 PM »
There is no such book as the book of Enoch, someone is pulling you leg, cant you feel it?
Uh... what?  There most certainly is such a book.  Whether the Enoch of Genesis wrote it is a different matter, perhaps.
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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2011, 05:33:33 AM »
Great post Jarrod, (I found it through the recent post of EdwardGoodie where you linked to here). The understanding of these symbolisms and typologies helps tremendously to understand the Scripture, even all the way to the end of the age, even the plan of YHWH laid out throughout, and the manifold symbolic references found in the book of the Revelation. The "mixing" of symbolic animals (their seed) is clearly stated to somehow concern the New Covenant of Jeremiah 31 which is quoted verbatim by the writer of Hebrews as the New Covenant.

Jeremiah 31:26-34 KJV
26.  Upon this I awaked, and beheld; my sleep was sweet unto me.
27.  Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will sow the house of Israel and the house of Judah with the seed of man, and with the seed of beast.
28.  And it shall come to pass, that like as I have watched over them, to pluck up, and to break down, and to throw down, and to destroy, and to afflict; so will I watch over them, to build, and to plant, saith the Lord.
29.  In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge.
30.  But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge.
31.  Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32.  Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
33.  But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34.  And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.


BOTH Houses were to be "mixed" with the seed of man and with the seed of BEAST (the words are Spirit, as in all things, of course). Those "wild beasts" are referenced throughout as in such places as Daniel Ch.7 and Revelation Ch.13. The lesser known, taught, and understood places are certain passages of Scripture which complete the understanding, such as Hosea Ch.13.

Hosea 13:4-11 KJV
4.  Yet I am the Lord thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.
5.  I did know thee in the wilderness, in the land of great drought.
6.  According to their pasture, so were they filled; they were filled, and their heart was exalted; therefore have they forgotten me.
7.  Therefore I will be unto them as a lion: as a leopard by the way will I observe them:
8.  I will meet them as a bear that is bereaved of her whelps, and will rend the caul of their heart, and there will I devour them like a lion: the wild beast shall tear them.
9.  O Israel, thou hast destroyed thyself; but in me is thine help.
10.  I will be thy king: where is any other that may save thee in all thy cities? and thy judges of whom thou saidst, Give me a king and princes?
11.  I gave thee a king in mine anger, and took him away in my wrath.


They asked for a king instead of YHWH, (they got Saul) and he gave them, and us, much more than we bargained for, (kings of the Gentiles-Heathen). And he takes them away in his fury, passion, wrath, and anger, which is to our salvation. If we understand the symbolic meaning here then YHWH is stating that he will use our own sins, (beasts) and he will be like the lion, the bear, and the leopard, and he will use them to REND THE CAUL-CHESTPLATE OF OUR HEARTS. And why? For our own good, to remove the heart of stone from inside "the chest plate of iron" and so to circumcise that heart of stone, putting it back inside ALIVE, and LIVING, and NEW IN CHRIST. And according to Jeremiah Ch.31 and Hebrews Ch.8 this is part of the New Covenant for everyone. It includes both Houses because YHWH has concluded all in unbelief, and in unrighteousness, so that he may bestow his great mercy upon all showing he is no respecter of persons.

Hebrews 8:8-12 KJV (Jeremiah 31:31-34)
8.  For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9.  Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
10.  For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11.  And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
12.  For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.


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Re: The Animal Apocalypse
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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2011, 05:37:58 AM »
So then Daniel Ch. 7 and many other passages concerning "wild beasts" apply to every one of us in ways we never imagined, whether we believe, and or, acknowledge this fact or not.

Revelation 6:12-14 KJV
12.  And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13.  And the stars of heaven fell unto (INTO) the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14.  And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.


Uh-oh, these stars are not only the people of YHWH ...
And "the fullness of the Gentiles" has come in; for someone …


Isaiah 34:4-8 KJV
4.  And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.
5.  For my sword shall be bathed in heaven: behold, it shall come down upon Idumea, (Edom) and upon the people of my curse, to judgment.
6.  The sword of the Lord is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the Lord hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea (Edom).
7.  And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.
8.  For it is the day of the Lord's vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion.


Some believe that the "unicorns" of the KJV Translation were likely the now-extinct Aurochs bullocks which were the largest and the meanest of the so-called red bulls, the same which are the subject matter of many petroglyphs and ancient cave paintings.





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Yet each in his own appointed time of appointment …
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