From the OP:
If we don't have perfection all along the way what's the point in having perfection in the first step (assuming we even know which writings are the perfect ones)?
That is the crux of the issue -- IF we don’t have “perfection.” However, we do indeed have “perfection,” which then renders many other assumptions forfeit.
You’ve been lied to; you’ve been sold a bill of goods by the most cunning merchandiser himself, Satan.
Firstly, God could not care less about any translations per se
. The Holy Bible itself chronicles for us several translations (Moses’ second set of tablets; scrolls tossed into the fire; etc.). God has no use for any "originals," otherwise he would have made certain that we had them today. Rather, the question remains, has God kept his promise? It’s NEVER been about the translators. This is why many have a problem, a disjunction between inspiration and preservation. It’s not about any translation; it’s about whether or not we believe that God has kept his promise to preserve his inspired words for ever (Psa. 12:6. 7). Presently, virtually everyone here has a fear of man, a fear of standing on the word of God they would profess to love and agreeing with God that it is inspired -- here, now, today, and not “lost” and dependent on fallible men to guide us to their “version” of it. As we’re reading this right here, right now, the majority can’t tell me that they believe they have the inspired word of God available to them, NOW, as God has promised. What a miserable state to be caught in; men will ALWAYS supplant us if we look to them to define what God’s words are.
If wanna-bee scholars could shift the burden from God's "inspired," "pure" and "preserved for ever" words to man's intellect, then they could proceed to build their ivory towers. B. B. Warfield's fellow associates were the first to put this new “originals-only” heresy in print at the Niagara Conference in 1878 (via his novel Sola Autographa).
Secondly, another problem is that people do not understand what "inspiration" means. They’ve been taught by the world that it means God inspired men to write, etc. But that’s not what the scripture says; there’s no mention of man anywhere in that verse. It says all scripture is given by inspiration of God, by his Spirit. It’s not about man in any manner. God did not inspire any men, although this is the diversionary worldly playground that the scholars are working so hard to convince you to visit. The scripture means what it says: The word of God is alive; it is spirit (a mere breath is neither). Yes, God has indeed kept his promise to preserve HIS pure words for ever (ala Psalm 12:6, 7). We do have it. The question today is, which "words" are it, i.e. which Bible is the real deal?
Still, many of you believe, in error, that God inspired men to write God's words and, therefore, 'we better make certain we have "scholars" and "credentialed" "EXPERTS" doing the writing.'
The wanna-be scholars push for bigger and better bibles that come highly recommended and they offer 'updates' to their yes-men. It's why those modern versions of the Holy Bible must be copyrighted -- they are not an inspired work of God but works of men who claim owner$hip of them.
Let’s take a look at the relevant passage:
And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. 2 Tim. 3:15-17 AV
We see that even a child understands the holy scriptures -- no middlemen wanna-bee ‘scholars’ required!
We also see that it is God
who gives scripture -- not man. Man does not even feature in this verse.
Notice that the purpose of God giving to man God’s inspired scripture is so "that the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works."
Notice how God gives scripture -- by inspiration. Nowhere does it say that God inspired men. "All scripture is given by inspiration of God." God’s Spirit (i.e. inspiration) is the vehicle with which God ‘gives all scripture’ -- God does not give scripture via any man, or by inspiring any man, or by any other means. Thus, God’s scripture has life -- it is alive, it is the living Spirit-filled words of God. Conversely, man does not have life; outside of God, man is dead. Yes, man has breath, but mere breath is not life; God’s Spirit is life. The words of men are mere breaths; whereas God’s words are Life itself. The reality of the inspiration of scripture has no connection with any efforts of man.
Obviously, these men do not know the truth about inspiration. They have not discerned and cannot discern, from their so-called bibles, the meaning and significance of the inspiration of God’s word. The reality of inspiration seriously bothers these guys, and they don’t understand why. Mention preservation, and their blood pressure kicks up even higher.
If you tell them the word of God is inspired, they’re forced to redefine the definition of the word of God to match their un-belief in inspiration. The un-inspired inventions of un-saved men is their playground. Such men and their scholarly icons can be found hiding behind the ”originals only” heresy.
Don’t let the wanna-bee scholars deceive you by their attempts to shift the inspiration of God’s living Spirit-filled words to man’s mere breath. So the next time you hear, “only the ‘Hebrew and Greek’ is the inspired text,” you’ll know the truth of the matter.
Did you not expect that these times would be as they are? The word of God has been under attack since Satan changed a single word back in the garden. Satan doesn’t change a game plan that works. Satan does not have to kill you outright to neuter your walk; he can simply flood the marketplace with 600+ modern counterfeit bibles and accomplish the same feat more easily.Accuracy is God's end
, not ours or the textual critics’ or their "versions" of it. It's not always easy to shake firmly held deceptions e.g. the "originals-only" heresy. Rather, do you believe God when he says that his words are pure and inspired, and that he has preserved his pure inspired words for ever (Psa 12)? Do you possess his pure inspired preserved words? I do.
BTW, the “KJVO debate” is a red herring, a new arrival in the arsenal of the ‘textual critics’ -- those whose fun is in criticizing the word of God. God’s domain is a little bit larger than the “KJVO debate...”
A little leaven leavens the whole lump. Touch not the unclean thing; pass not by it. AVOID IT like the plague it is. I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes.
Sorry, critics, but the KJB text-type is not to be confused with today's KJ Bible. Today, as the vernacular Bible it is, the KJB is a relatively new arrival - not some forgone conclusion from antiquity i.e. it wasn't the 1611 KJB that "was translated by Greek & Hebrew scholars into the English language of their day." Thus, it shares no connection with men's copyrighted counterfeit "modern versions" of today. The KJV text-type has been used historically by the church since before A.D. 360.
This is about believing that God has kept his promise to preserve his pure inspired words for ever (Psalm 12:6, 7). That pure inspired preserved for ever vernacular Bible for English speakers today happens to be the Authorized Version.
[Lest anyone scream plagiarism, this is MY post and I've posted various parts of it on other sites under my other nic's.]