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The Holy Trinity
« on: Sat May 05, 2012 - 19:05:22 »
God the Father is the King of all
Even of the very big and tall
If you make his anger bubble
You are in a lot of trouble
He is a jealous God

God the Son is the Savior of all
So answer to his salvation call
He died for our every sin and wrong
So we can live in Heaven and sing a song
He will love us for all eternity

God the Holy Spirit is good and faithful
Even to the bad and hateful
He tells the Lord what we need
When we make our humble plead
He is our messenger to the Lord

In Heaven they gather as one,  these three
And unanimously agree
To answer my plea
And throw my sins into the sea
This is the Holy Trinity

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Re: The Holy Trinity
« Reply #1 on: Sun May 06, 2012 - 12:46:34 »
"Do you not know from the Word that the Father and the Son are one, that the Father is in the Son, and the Son in the Father? This the Lord plainly says (in John 10:30, and 14:10, 11). If you do not believe this you divide God into two; and when this is done you are unable to think about God otherwise than naturally, sensually, and even materially; and this has been done in the world since the time of the Council of Nice, which introduced the doctrine of three Divine persons from eternity, and thereby turned the church into a theater furnished with painted hangings, where the actors were representing new plays. Who does not know and acknowledge that God is one? If you acknowledge this in heart and spirit, all that you have just said is of itself dissipated, or rebounds into the air like nonsense from the ear of a wise man.

'To sit at the right hand' does not mean to sit at the right hand, like two persons sitting side by side. It means Jehovah God's Divine Omnipotence through the Human that He assumed in the world under the name Jesus Christ. By means of this He is in things last as well as in things first; by means of this He entered and overthrew and subjugated the hells; by means of this He restored order in the heavens; and thus by means of this He redeemed both men and angels, and will continue to redeem for ever. If you consult the Word, and are capable of enlightenment, you will perceive that 'right hand' means here omnipotence, as it does in Isaiah: My hand hath founded the earth, and My right hand hath spanned the heavens (47:13). Jehovah hath sworn by His right hand and by the arm of His strength (62:8). Thy right hand doth hold Me up (Ps. 18:35). Look to the Son that Thou madest strong for Thyself; let Thy hand be for the man of the right hand, for the Son of man whom Thou madest strong for Thyself (Ps. 80:15, 17). From this it is plain how the following is to be understood: The saying of Jehovah to my Lord, Sit Thou at My right hand until I make Thine enemies a footstool for Thy feet. Jehovah shall send the staff of Thy strength out of Zion; rule Thou in the midst of Thine enemies (Ps. 110:1, 2). This whole Psalm treats of the Lord's combat against the hells, and His subjugation of them. As 'the right hand of God' signifies Divine Omnipotence through the Human Form: The Lord says that He is to sit at the right of power (Matt. 26:63, 64) And at the right hand of the power of God" (Luke 22:69).

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Re: The Holy Trinity
« Reply #2 on: Sun May 06, 2012 - 14:49:55 »
Yes I do believe this,  but you are not getting the point of the Holy Trinity.  This means that God is one,  but he is also three at the same time.  The Bible does not directly speak of the Trinity,  but the appearance of them is implied.  When it talks about God speaking in the Bible,  when the Lord says us or we,  then it is talking about God the Father,  God the Son,  and God the Holy Spirit.  Another instance where you see the Trinity is when Jesus in baptized by John in the New Testament.  When Jesus had come out of the water,  the Holy Spirit descended like a dove onto the Lord's shoulder,  and God the Father spoke from Heaven saying,  "This is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased".  I may seem like a contradiction,  but it's not.  There is a lot of things about God that are not a contradiction even though they seem like it.  In my poem I was just telling the behavior and mannerisms of each part of the Trinity.

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Re: The Holy Trinity
« Reply #3 on: Mon May 07, 2012 - 11:21:33 »
Mark 1:10
 And straightway coming up out of the water. He saw the heavens rent, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon Him. And there was a voice from the heavens, [saying] You are My beloved Son, in Whom I am well pleased. This means Yet ascending rapidly out of external truths. He enters into the interior truths and goods of the Word, even to the Divine Truth and Good in Himself.

The Lord said in John 10:30,  "The Father and He are one." He meant one as Soul and Body or Divine and Human in Him. He that hath seen Me hath seen the Father,John 14:9. The Divine Trinity is the Soul, Body and Spirit of Jesus Christ. His Soul is the Father. His Body is the Divine Human that  the Father in Himself had sssumed in the world. He is the Holy Spirit is the because the Lord alone regenerates man. The Holy Spirit regenerates and teaches. The Holy Spirit is Divine truth, and the Lord is Divine Truth, which is the Holy Word of God. The Lord is the Word.

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Re: The Holy Trinity
« Reply #4 on: Fri Mar 07, 2014 - 20:03:34 »
 The doctrine of three Divine persons from eternity is the lack of understanding Jehovah God the Father's  Divine Essence. His his Divine Essence is Divine Good and Divine Truth, or  Divine  Love and  Divine  Wisdom. The only way  Divine Truth can be express to mankind, is by Jehovah God the Father to take on Human Form. He gave Himself the name Jesus Christ. The name Jesus means good, and the name Christ means truth. The Divine Trinity wasn't until the Lord was born to the virgin Mary. Genesis 1:26 Let us make man, means God regenerats us  through the angels.It is by means of the angels, God leads us.I have been taught by God through the angels. To be regenerated, (born again) we must look to the Lord,have faith in Him. Shun evil because they are sins. Live by the Ten Commandments and do good works.

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Re: The Holy Trinity
« Reply #5 on: Wed Jan 07, 2015 - 11:28:09 »
Another instance where you see the Trinity is when Jesus in baptized by John in the New Testament.  When Jesus had come out of the water,  the Holy Spirit descended like a dove onto the Lord's shoulder,  and God the Father spoke from Heaven saying,  "This is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased".??




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