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Christian Tolerance
« on: Mon Sep 02, 2013 - 09:25:57 »
How do we show tolerance on a subject that the Bible calls sin?  The question of 'how to interact with the homosexual agenda' needs to be addressed.  The Bible seems to be clear on the subject, but the body of Christ seems to be unclear on the subject.  How are we to be a light and remain tolerant so as to not be intolerant?


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Re: Christian Tolerance
« Reply #1 on: Mon Sep 02, 2013 - 09:39:39 »
I think that Christians are pretty clear on the subject.

We are told not to judge the world as they know no better, but we need to be clear on what is wrong and what is right. Homosexuality is clearly wrong and yet we should pray for people to come to know God for themselves and not just reject them.

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Re: Christian Tolerance
« Reply #2 on: Wed Sep 04, 2013 - 08:19:23 »
Christianity Today/Preaching Today had an interesting essay on the subject:

http://www.preachingtoday.com/skills/2013/september/preaching-to-washed-and-waiting.html?utm_source=preachingtoday&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_term=2072201&utm_content=205177727&utm_campaign=2013

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Dr. Wesley Hill is the Assistant Professor of Biblical Studies at the Trinity School for Ministry in Pittsburgh. He's also the author of Washed and Waiting: Reflections on Christian Faithfulness and Homosexuality. We recently asked Dr. Hill about how preachers can faithfully convey the Bible's message on sexuality while remaining sensitive to people who are dealing with same-sex attraction.
 
PreachingToday.com: Preaching on homosexuality is a very personal issue for you. Will you tell us your story?
 
Wesley Hill: My earliest childhood memories are of hearing Bible stories from my parents. I was steeped in the faith from a very young age, and like a lot of kids who grow up in that environment I prayed the Sinner's Prayer with my parents when I was very young. I was the oldest of three kids, and a stereotypical firstborn. I responded well to authority, I was very involved at church, and never really went through a period of rebellion or walking away from my faith. But around the time I started to go through puberty I realized that I was not attracted to girls and a lot of my friends were starting to be, and I realized I was attracted to my same-sex friends. Growing up in the context that I grew up in, that was very confusing.
 
I didn't really have language or categories to understand it. I had read a book by James Dobson that said my feelings were a phase that a lot of people go through in puberty. I thought: Maybe this will be a phase and I'll go away to college and meet the right girl and grow out of this. And it wasn't until I was at Wheaton College that I realized nothing was changing and my attraction to my same-sex peers is just as strong as it ever had been.
 
I had never talked about it up until then, but I started to open up with godly mentors and pastors at that point. I began to realize that if I wanted to grow in my faith in Christ and continue to live faithfully as a believer, I needed to not ignore this anymore. I needed to bring this into the light and talk with others about it. So that's what I did. I met weekly with a pastor who was very helpful in not assuming that he had all the answers. We processed scripture, prayed, and explored the issue together.
 
A lot of preachers feel unsure of how to approach this topic in the pulpit. What helps? What hurts?
 
Well, I read a lot of Christian pastors and preachers writing articles or books about homosexuality. I haven't heard many sermons about it. Only a few. On one hand, that isn't helpful. We do need to talk about it. On the other, people often perceive Christians as being obsessed with homosexuality. Like it's all we want to talk about and that we go out of our way to condemn or exclude gay people. So I think there's a certain sense in which that's just not true. I mean, I've been a Christian my whole life and I had to wait until I was 31 years old to actually hear a sermon about it at my church. It's not as though other pastors that I've heard have neglected the topic, but it's not often a topic we preach on. That's a double-edged silence: on the one hand, people like me are wondering what we should do, but on the other, we're not being singled out for special condemnation, which is a constant fear of a gay person in the church.


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Re: Christian Tolerance
« Reply #3 on: Fri Sep 06, 2013 - 17:00:40 »
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Re: Christian Tolerance
« Reply #4 on: Fri Sep 06, 2013 - 17:11:12 »
Interesting this topic came up since the latest GCM article posted at http://www.gracecentered.com/is-it-loving-to-be-tolerant.htm

An interesting look...inciteful and even challenging. What do you think?

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Re: Christian Tolerance
« Reply #5 on: Fri Sep 06, 2013 - 17:29:40 »
How do we show tolerance on a subject that the Bible calls sin?  The question of 'how to interact with the homosexual agenda' needs to be addressed.  The Bible seems to be clear on the subject, but the body of Christ seems to be unclear on the subject.  How are we to be a light and remain tolerant so as to not be intolerant?

There is a difference between telling a truth and casting judgement. Unfortunately, the world fails to know the difference and instead sees Christians as judgmental.

The Bible demands that Christians be patient and kind to others because when one tells a a truth in aggressiveness, it seems to muddle the line between telling truth and judging from the receiving end.

But even then, there are a great deal of people who, in their own aggression, will try to label anything one says as judgmental even it isn't so. It's ironically the judgmental themselves who go that route- there are far more judgmental atheists then Christians in my opinion, another irony to go along with the fact.

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Re: Christian Tolerance
« Reply #6 on: Fri Sep 06, 2013 - 18:17:25 »
How do we show tolerance on a subject that the Bible calls sin?  The question of 'how to interact with the homosexual agenda' needs to be addressed.  The Bible seems to be clear on the subject, but the body of Christ seems to be unclear on the subject.  How are we to be a light and remain tolerant so as to not be intolerant?


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I don't interact with agendas; I interact with people.

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Re: Christian Tolerance
« Reply #7 on: Sun Oct 27, 2013 - 18:06:27 »
Sometimes I wished I interacted with agendas.  They don't talk back  ::hug::

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Re: Christian Tolerance
« Reply #8 on: Sun Oct 27, 2013 - 18:10:02 »
There is that, now.

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Re: Christian Tolerance
« Reply #9 on: Sat Nov 09, 2013 - 12:55:45 »
How do we show tolerance on a subject that the Bible calls sin?  The question of 'how to interact with the homosexual agenda' needs to be addressed.  The Bible seems to be clear on the subject, but the body of Christ seems to be unclear on the subject.  How are we to be a light and remain tolerant so as to not be intolerant?


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Sometimes, people who call themselves Christians are not Christians...for example, if you talk to a Mormon or JW today, and do not let on that you are a Christian, they will call themselves "Christians" when it is quite obvious to those of us who are, that these false religions are not Christian. That is just an example...A true Christian is to walk in tolerance as much as possible toward the world (until it comes to such extremes as killing and murdering the unborn for any and every reason), where we are not to walk in tolerance is within the Body of Christ.

Those in the Body of Christ, for example, who are living in sin - they we are to judge. Jesus did not say we are not to judge period, He said to judge with righteous judgment, just like Paul did to the Corinthian church.

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Re: Christian Tolerance
« Reply #10 on: Thu Sep 11, 2014 - 14:19:18 »
Every human being on planet earth has the capacity to know the difference between right and wrong, good and evil. This is something we inherited from Adam and Eve when they ate from the tree "of the knowledge of good, and Evil" Those who live a wicked life style know in their conscience that it is wrong, and if they continue going against their own conscience, God will give them over to a reprobate mind.
The only thing a Christian can do is live the life of God in front of them that they can see the light, and sense the Water of life flowing out from inside them. This is proclaiming the Gospel even louder than words.
We are living epistles known and read of all men.