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Is healing still for today?
« on: Sat Feb 01, 2014 - 22:28:35 »
Is healing still for today?
What do you think?

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Re: Is healing still for today?
« Reply #1 on: Sat Feb 01, 2014 - 23:08:41 »
It has never been our place to command miracles, but God does answer prayers, yes.  I have a total knee replacement that is about 34 years old now, and that was because of God's intervention when it had started to fail at 8 years.  On the other hand, prayers for my adult retarded son, after his encephalitis when he was three, were answered with a  "no" from God.  However as the years have gone by and I have seen how God has used this young man, I understand a lot more and praise God for HIS wisdom. 

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Re: Is healing still for today?
« Reply #2 on: Sun Feb 02, 2014 - 00:49:17 »
Yes healing is for today. A while back we had a pastor from China visiting our church, and he said that miracles and healings are common place among believers there. He was amazed that we just don't see it much in the west.
 In the west, I think its the general doubt and unbelief in many churches about healing and the gifts of the spirit generally, that seem to stop much healing and also that we have health care and things like that so maybe don't think we need God so much or rely on Him so much as people in countries who don't have all that.
Having said that, I know a lovely lady personally who was instantly healed after 7 years in a wheel chair, and 20 years later she is still fine.

I do believe in the verse in Isaiah that says "by your wounds we have been healed" but its not always easy to appropriate that healing because it takes so much faith, and we are surrounded with so much doubt and unbelief in the church today in the west.

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Re: Is healing still for today?
« Reply #3 on: Sun Feb 02, 2014 - 04:07:34 »
Maybe, It all depends upon the will of God.  The healing in the NT, was done for a specify reason, and during a period of reformation, to add credibility and assurance to the ministry of the "new way" being proclaimed by the Apostles.  But at the end of that period, Paul even said that he left sick Trophimus at Milteum~2 Timothy 4:20. He even told Timothy to drink a little wine for his often infirmities concerning his stomach.   

Are the faith healers like Benny Hinn,  Ernest Angley and the rest of these liars, who have a heart they have exercised with covetous practices, fakes?  Absolutely.  I have often asked~"why do not these men, if they were really healers and doing God's service, go into towns and into the hospitals through out this world, and heal people, without renting the largest available place within a particular city, and do our communities a great service, and the poor sick folks, and prove their healing powers?  I know why, and so does every other bipartisan person, who does not have a personal agrenda!  If you do that~#1~ One would be proven false, but more than that:  #2~ One could not leave town with a bus full of $$$$$$$$!
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Re: Is healing still for today?
« Reply #4 on: Thu Feb 20, 2014 - 14:18:44 »
I knew this would be an interesting topic.....
So if you had to give a one word answer yes or no...what would it be?

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Re: Is healing still for today?
« Reply #5 on: Thu Feb 20, 2014 - 15:06:53 »
Yes.

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Re: Is healing still for today?
« Reply #6 on: Fri Feb 21, 2014 - 05:15:38 »
Yes.

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Re: Is healing still for today?
« Reply #7 on: Fri Feb 21, 2014 - 17:32:28 »
I assume you only mean the miraculous kind?

If you read through the gospels in Greek, one thing you'll notice is that there are multiple words translated "healed."  Some of the healings are miraculous.  Many are not, and those get less attention (for obvious reasons).

Consider the story of the centurion with the sick child.  Jesus said He would come to the man's house to heal "therapeuo" the child.  That means take care of her until she's well.  It was only after the man's expression of faith that Jesus instead healed "iaomai" the girl miraculously. No trip to the man's house necessary for that one.

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Re: Is healing still for today?
« Reply #8 on: Fri Jun 20, 2014 - 21:12:46 »
YES YES YES YES YES and yes. As long as we are on this earth Yes.

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Re: Is healing still for today?
« Reply #9 on: Thu Jun 26, 2014 - 19:13:18 »
I think healing will always be "for today". For at least three reasons:
1) God called Himself a healer -- Exodus 15:26, Psalm 103:3
2) Healing was (and is) a major part of Jesus' earthly ministry -- Luke 4:18
3) It is part of salvation -- Isaiah 53:5, 1 Peter 2:24

Since God is the same "yesterday, today and forever" I think He still heals

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Re: Is healing still for today?
« Reply #10 on: Fri Jul 11, 2014 - 20:20:05 »
Is healing still for today?
What do you think?

God still works, but mostly through means.

I would not say there are NO miracles, but I think they are certainly rare.  For the most part miracles even ended prior to the bible being finished.  Paul told peter to take some wine for his stomach.  Why didn't he just tell him to get healed?  And miracles were concentrated into 3 or 4 specific periods when they did happen.

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Re: Is healing still for today?
« Reply #11 on: Fri Jul 11, 2014 - 23:12:11 »
Of course.

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Re: Is healing still for today?
« Reply #12 on: Sat Jul 12, 2014 - 09:16:25 »
Is healing still for today?
What do you think?

God still works, but mostly through means.

I would not say there are NO miracles, but I think they are certainly rare.  For the most part miracles even ended prior to the bible being finished.  Paul told peter to take some wine for his stomach.  Why didn't he just tell him to get healed?  And miracles were concentrated into 3 or 4 specific periods when they did happen.
How accurate can your information be when you mistake Timothy for Peter?  (This is not just simple name switching....)

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Re: Is healing still for today?
« Reply #13 on: Thu Sep 11, 2014 - 14:23:06 »
"They shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover"

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Re: Is healing still for today?
« Reply #14 on: Wed May 06, 2015 - 10:08:01 »
Yes absolutely. I have had them for me personally. My parents have seen them. My pastors have seen them. We have constant reports in our church of people being instantly healed. I have had friends witness them at his church. A few weeks ago we had a man in our men's group testify to seeing someone raised from the dead.

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Re: Is healing still for today?
« Reply #15 on: Wed May 06, 2015 - 14:20:53 »
He never changes. If He healed ages ago, He'd heal today as well.

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Re: Is healing still for today?
« Reply #16 on: Wed May 06, 2015 - 15:56:30 »
He never changes. If He healed ages ago, He'd heal today as well.

We agree.  But that being said, God may not chose to heal, and with many, he chooses not to do so for many different reasons, even among godly people...besides, there will come a time that all men will die of some disease.  There are Walgreen's and CVS' on every corner, and children of God in every city that knows the power of prayer, and that is not enough to stop certain diseases from taking peoples life.  All have a appointment with death, sooner, or later.     
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Re: Is healing still for today?
« Reply #17 on: Sat Jul 02, 2016 - 20:05:19 »
I kind of think that since God uses the gifts of the Holy Spirit in the church for the edification of the church, if you are not in a church excersize g these gifts, your chances are less because your not around a person who God uses that gift?  Seems I used to get edified a lot more in my other church. 
But God said 'I can still make you like me' when I was worried about leaving this church.  I guess that is most important to Him. 

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Re: Is healing still for today?
« Reply #18 on: Sun Sep 25, 2016 - 20:22:44 »
Yes.

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Re: Is healing still for today?
« Reply #19 on: Wed Oct 12, 2016 - 15:10:53 »
YES

I am not sure where some people got the idea that healing and miracles were only for a certain time period and then bam it is over, thats not right, there is no where in the Bible that ever said it was suppose to end. I wish you all could see the miracles I have seen. You would never then doubt that healing is for today. The thing is the really big miracles,the jaw dropping ones were in Africa and just like chosenone said about the Pastor from China, a lot of other countries do understand things easier than we do, in other words...they believe Gods Word where it says.........
Isa 53:4  Surely he hath borne our infirmities and carried our sorrows: and we have thought him as it were a leper, and as one struck by God and afflicted.
Isa 53:5  But he was wounded for our iniquities, he was bruised for our sins: the chastisement of our peace was upon him, and by his bruises we are healed.
Mat 8:17  That it might be fulfilled, which was spoken by the prophet Isaias, saying: He took our infirmities, and bore our diseases.

I am in a wheelchair from a back surgery gone wrong, I have 2 titanium rods and 16 screws, before my 6 week checkup the screws on the very bottom of one rod broke allowing the bottom of the rod curve out. The screw parts are still in there.  Something is preventing me from standing straight or laying flat. I cant even lay flat enough to have a regular MRI done. The pain can get really bad. Do I believe in miracles...yes....do I believe I will receive my miracle while I am still on earth, yes I do....why? because of what Gods Word says. Since I have seen miracles why havent I seen mine?? Because of my unbelief...how can I say that after the things I have seen? I dont think I deserve it, a part of me knows better than that because its not based on what I have done but rather it is based on what Jesus did for me but I believe God will help me get that into my heart. The part of me that thinks I dont deserve the healing involves a long story but it has to do with me back sliding a few years and getting too far away from the good Shepherds hook and got into the enemies ground. So, for me, anyone saying after what Jesus suffered at the hands of His own creation just to provide healing for us isnt for today is just a slap in His face or a spit in His face just like it said those people did to Him before they nailed Him to the cross. Even if I was to never receive my healing before I go home you will never hear me say healing is not for today. When I see someone say that it hurts me after what Jesus suffered for us and I can only imagine how it hurts Him.(sorry but that is how I feel) The church as a whole has let the world down because we dont believe Gods Word. We have become ineffective as witnesses pretty much as a whole body which is suppose to be the body of Christ, doing the same things Christ did while He was physically here on earth. The following quote really does make me scratch my head...........

"Maybe, It all depends upon the will of God.  The healing in the NT, was done for a specify reason, and during a period of reformation, to add credibility and assurance to the ministry of the "new way" being proclaimed by the Apostles"

The reason I say this is because for one...God tells us many places His will in His Word......Some listed above then 1Pe 2:24  Who his own self bore our sins in his body upon the tree: that we, being dead to sins, should live to justice: by whose stripes you were healed.
And again....Joh 14:12  Otherwise believe for the very works' sake. Amen, amen, I say to you, he that believeth in me, the works that I do, he also shall do: and greater than these shall he do.
Joh 14:13  Because I go to the Father: and whatsoever you shall ask the Father in my name, that will I do: that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
What did Jesus do ???

The last part of the above statement that made me scratch my head
 " to add credibility and assurance to the ministry of the "new way"

Wouldnt one think we needed these same things all the way through even up to now?? We need the power of God working in all our lives so the world can see there is a true living God, the only true living God, we need help now more than ever as time is short, the window is closing. We need credibility, we need assurance of the ministry of the "new way" now !

The good thing I see is God IS raising up His end time army, those who believe Gods Word and will not hesitate to walk in that power given unto us even unto death. What has been stopping the Church ???   Doubt and unbelief !

Study to show yourself approved.     Blessings

Oh, one other thing...someone said this........ He even told Timothy to drink a little wine for his often infirmities concerning his stomach.   Speaking of Paul telling Timothy.
 A few years ago I studied on that verse because I couldnt understand why Timothy wasnt healed. This is what I found anyway, if you wish to study this out and prove me wrong thats fine, I want to know, I am always willing to learn. Anyway, what I found was it seems the drinking water wasnt the best and would cause stomach problems. Wine was used to purify water (I Tim. 5:23). Often water would have a high alkaline content, and the pH could be neutralized somewhat by adding wine to the water. This was not the only method. Water could be made safe to drink by boiling, but that was time consuming and costly, since wood was scarce. The most common method of purifying water for drinking was to mix it with wine. Paul told Timothy to use no longer water, but to use wine for his stomach’s sake. (Note that Paul told Timothy to USE wine – not to drink it!) Timothy obviously had a stomach problem – due to poor water.

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Re: Is healing still for today?
« Reply #20 on: Wed Oct 12, 2016 - 17:19:33 »
"No longer drink water exclusively, but use a little wine for the sake of your stomach and your frequent ailments".
It seems Timothy has various illnesses not just one. He also did drink it, not use it.

I believe that its God's will to heal and restore. I believe its the enemy who steals, kills and destroys. I know a few people who had dramatic healings. I also know that some of the most faithful, faith filled, spirit filled, Bible believing Christians were not healed for whatever reason, despite their prayers and the prayers of many of their Christian family.

I cant explain it, but In the end we are safe in Gods hands and He will always be with us. 

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Re: Is healing still for today?
« Reply #21 on: Thu Oct 13, 2016 - 20:45:01 »
And sometimes if we who are called by His name would work as hard to prove Gods Word to be the Truth, rightly dividing the Word, we would do good, ::frustrated:: which is why we have Holy Spirit who is the ultimate teacher, who does know the Truth, Who was sent to us to help us know the Word, the Truth. Which is why no man can make me believe that healing is not for today nor do I think God wants any of His children sick. Thats the same as saying, sorry Lord but you didnt finish taking care of the curses we were under do to mankinds sin, Lord you said " It is finished " but you lied.... I will never slap my Lord in the face, just as I will never tell anyone there is no hope.
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