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« on: Thu Apr 25, 2019 - 12:55:09 »
Why do Baptists make it a point to say they're the first Baptist Church in any given town? Why do they care about that?

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« Reply #1 on: Thu Apr 25, 2019 - 13:29:55 »
Why do Baptists make it a point to say they're the first Baptist Church in any given town? Why do they care about that?

There are no theological differences. This was simply a naming convention common to early American settlement. Whenever a Baptist church was established for the first time in a new town, it would designate itself “First Baptist of (new town’s name).” Occasionally, although less often, the next Baptist church to open in the town would call their church “Second Baptist.” Hence, when you see a church named “First Baptist” today, it simply means it was the first Baptist church in that town.

This naming convention was also popular among other denominations, including Methodist and Presbyterian.

https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-difference-between-1st-and-2nd-Baptist-churches

So I would suspect that it had something to do with a church  opening and expecting growth or a need for another in another part of town.



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« Reply #2 on: Thu Apr 25, 2019 - 14:26:42 »
Why do Baptists make it a point to say they're the first Baptist Church in any given town? Why do they care about that?

I don't know that they do.  Many Baptist groups don't use such terminology.

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« Reply #3 on: Thu Apr 25, 2019 - 14:38:58 »
Texas Conservative,
 I drove by one earlier today.

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« Reply #4 on: Thu Apr 25, 2019 - 14:39:34 »
We have a First Baptist and a Second Baptist and a gaggle of other names, usually neighborhood or street names.

Methodists and Presbyterians have a First but I haven’t heard of a Second.
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« Reply #5 on: Thu Apr 25, 2019 - 14:46:33 »
Ginger Rella,
 Thank you, good link. I figured as much that they would have been the first chronologically in town. I didn't know that it was based on projection on future population. So thank you for that bit.
There's a funny clip on the first and second Presbyterian churches
https://youtu.be/GxtYGPgixic
Time index 1:00-1:21

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« Reply #6 on: Thu Apr 25, 2019 - 15:24:07 »
There was/is a 1st Church of Christ in one of the towns near where I grew up.

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« Reply #7 on: Thu Apr 25, 2019 - 16:37:29 »
Ginger Rella,
 Thank you, good link. I figured as much that they would have been the first chronologically in town. I didn't know that it was based on projection on future population. So thank you for that bit.
There's a funny clip on the first and second Presbyterian churches
https://youtu.be/GxtYGPgixic
Time index 1:00-1:21


LOL... that ws a funny clip.

Where I was born and grew up we had a 1st, 2nd and 3rd Presbyterian Church.

Population of a little more then 25,000 in 1950.

Our church was the 2nd Presbyterian... which became The Church of the Covenant in 1960.

The link is a brief history explaining the growth of the church from 1st to 2nd then 3rd....

http://www.churchofthecov.org/about-the-church/

           


( shush... this is where it happened. No, I said nothing........)






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« Reply #8 on: Thu Apr 25, 2019 - 16:37:52 »
We have a First Baptist and a Second Baptist and a gaggle of other names, usually neighborhood or street names.

Methodists and Presbyterians have a First but I haven’t heard of a Second.

Do you have a Regular Baptist?

There's one in my town. First time I saw it I giggled. Never heard of it before. Come to find out, there's a chain of them.

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« Reply #9 on: Thu Apr 25, 2019 - 16:44:07 »
I haven’t seen a “Regular Baptist”.

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« Reply #10 on: Thu Apr 25, 2019 - 16:52:09 »
Do you have a Regular Baptist?

There's one in my town. First time I saw it I giggled. Never heard of it before. Come to find out, there's a chain of them.

Washington PA has a 1st Baptist and then many others with names like Abundant Life Baptist, Friendship Baptist, Legacy Baptist among others. Nut not a 2nd Baptist.

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« Reply #11 on: Thu Apr 25, 2019 - 16:57:10 »
Washington PA has a 1st Baptist and then many others with names like Abundant Life Baptist, Friendship Baptist, Legacy Baptist among others. Nut not a 2nd Baptist.

There are multiple "Baptist" denominations.  There are also plenty of different doctrinal beliefs as well.

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« Reply #12 on: Thu Apr 25, 2019 - 17:01:48 »
There's also a Manger Baptist church in Tulsa that I thought was a one and only, but is a chain, too.


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« Reply #14 on: Sun Jun 02, 2019 - 16:37:10 »
Texas's Conservative,
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There was/is a 1st Church of Christ in one of the towns near where I grew up.
Really? That's funny.

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« Reply #15 on: Sun Jun 02, 2019 - 16:40:20 »
Ginger Rella,
Thank you for the link on the history.

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« Reply #16 on: Sun Jun 02, 2019 - 16:46:15 »
There are somethings the US press never prints for all to see & I just want someone here to tell me why not?

SPITTING JUST MORE OF IT 2019
Israel's Interior Minister: 'Stop Spitting on Christians'
Avraham Poraz, Israel's interior minister, today [2004-10-13] issued a half-hearted statement condemning an increase in attacks on Christian clergy. Poraz urged Jews to "stop the repeated attacks on the religious minority."
It seems that the tradition of spitting on the cross is getting media attention outside of Israel, and fears are that it might damage the ethno-state's image.
The latest incident was last Sunday, when a Jew spit on a cross carried by Armenian archbishop Nourhan Manougian. The attack led to a scuffle in which the archbishop's medallion, worn by Armenian archbishops since the 17th century, was broken
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Christians in Jerusalem want Jews to stop spitting on them
by Amiram Barkat
A few weeks ago, a senior Greek Orthodox clergyman in Israel attended a meeting at a government office in Jerusalem's Givat Shaul quarter. When he returned to his car, an elderly man wearing a skullcap came and knocked on the window. When the clergyman let the window down, the passerby spat in his face.
The clergyman prefered not to lodge a complaint with the police and told an acquaintance that he was used to being spat at by Jews. Many Jerusalem clergy have been subjected to abuse of this kind. For the most part, they ignore it but sometimes they cannot.
http://library.flawlesslogic.com/spitting.htm
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HOLY SPIT: WHY DO ULTRA-ORTHODOX JEWS SPIT AT CHRISTIANS?
A very embarrassing and persistent problem has arisen in some of the sacred sites in Jerusalem where Christians and Jews cross each other’s paths. Teenagers from a small sector of the city’s many Ultra-Orthodox (“Haredi”) Ashkenazi Jewish communities have taken to spitting at clerics wearing prominent crosses and dressed in traditional garb.
https://tinyurl.com/j77w4jd
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It's "Normal" for Jews to Spit on Christians in Jerusalem, says Top Catholic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f-WTWYTypc

Google “spitting on Christians”
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Ginger Rella,
Friendship Baptist?

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« Reply #18 on: Sun Jun 02, 2019 - 17:10:19 »
Texas's Conservative,Really? That's funny.

Yes.  It is instrumental (restoration movement) not congregational.
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« Reply #19 on: Sun Jun 02, 2019 - 17:25:08 »
There are somethings the US press never prints for all to see & I just want someone here to tell me why not?

SPITTING JUST MORE OF IT 2019
Israel's Interior Minister: 'Stop Spitting on Christians'
Avraham Poraz, Israel's interior minister, today [2004-10-13] issued a half-hearted statement condemning an increase in attacks on Christian clergy. Poraz urged Jews to "stop the repeated attacks on the religious minority."
It seems that the tradition of spitting on the cross is getting media attention outside of Israel, and fears are that it might damage the ethno-state's image.
The latest incident was last Sunday, when a Jew spit on a cross carried by Armenian archbishop Nourhan Manougian. The attack led to a scuffle in which the archbishop's medallion, worn by Armenian archbishops since the 17th century, was broken
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Christians in Jerusalem want Jews to stop spitting on them
by Amiram Barkat
A few weeks ago, a senior Greek Orthodox clergyman in Israel attended a meeting at a government office in Jerusalem's Givat Shaul quarter. When he returned to his car, an elderly man wearing a skullcap came and knocked on the window. When the clergyman let the window down, the passerby spat in his face.
The clergyman prefered not to lodge a complaint with the police and told an acquaintance that he was used to being spat at by Jews. Many Jerusalem clergy have been subjected to abuse of this kind. For the most part, they ignore it but sometimes they cannot.
http://library.flawlesslogic.com/spitting.htm
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
HOLY SPIT: WHY DO ULTRA-ORTHODOX JEWS SPIT AT CHRISTIANS?
A very embarrassing and persistent problem has arisen in some of the sacred sites in Jerusalem where Christians and Jews cross each other’s paths. Teenagers from a small sector of the city’s many Ultra-Orthodox (“Haredi”) Ashkenazi Jewish communities have taken to spitting at clerics wearing prominent crosses and dressed in traditional garb.
https://tinyurl.com/j77w4jd
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
It's "Normal" for Jews to Spit on Christians in Jerusalem, says Top Catholic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f-WTWYTypc

Google “spitting on Christians”
 ::tippinghat::


What does your post have to do with the First Baptist Church?

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« Reply #20 on: Sun Jun 02, 2019 - 18:05:42 »
Why do Baptists make it a point to say they're the first Baptist Church in any given town? Why do they care about that?
IT most likely makes them feel important before men, but God takes no notice of such things. He is looking at the HEARTS of men not what is on the sign in front of a worship place. Who cares about Baptist, Pentecostal, Catholics, SDA, Latter Day Saints, Church of Christ, Church of God, or HOME churches and a thousand more~God DOES NOT CARE! He looking at the HEARTS of men where he is TRULY worship in spirit and in truth!
Quote from: JESUS CHRIST
John 4:23,24~"But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."
NOT in Jerusalem where the temple of God was located, but God is looking for those who will worship him in spirit and in TRUTH. Men can glory in their OWN TEMPLE, but God cares less about what you belong to, or where you worship....he wants OUR HEARTS! I have never been inside of a FIRST Baptist church, or a church of Christ, or a Pentecostal church, and have NO DESIRE to start now. But what I have I give to the Lord.....my heart, and its affections belong to him~ yea, ALL I have is his. He knows that I lie not.
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« Reply #21 on: Sun Jun 02, 2019 - 18:19:06 »
What does your post have to do with the First Baptist Church?
Sir, (?)  he's senile and "toooldtoknow" what he is doing.  ::smile::

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« Reply #22 on: Sun Jun 02, 2019 - 18:34:03 »
Sir, (?)  he's senile and "toooldtoknow" what he is doing.  ::smile::

Thank you, sir. ::tippinghat::

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« Reply #23 on: Sun Jun 02, 2019 - 19:24:38 »
"What does your post have to do with the First Baptist Church?"

I think all churches should be aware of this.
If you personally don't care then don't comment on it.  ::amen!::

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« Reply #24 on: Thu Jan 23, 2020 - 13:04:18 »
There are somethings the US press never prints for all to see & I just want someone here to tell me why not?

SPITTING JUST MORE OF IT 2019
Israel's Interior Minister: 'Stop Spitting on Christians'
Avraham Poraz, Israel's interior minister, today [2004-10-13] issued a half-hearted statement condemning an increase in attacks on Christian clergy. Poraz urged Jews to "stop the repeated attacks on the religious minority."
It seems that the tradition of spitting on the cross is getting media attention outside of Israel, and fears are that it might damage the ethno-state's image.
The latest incident was last Sunday, when a Jew spit on a cross carried by Armenian archbishop Nourhan Manougian. The attack led to a scuffle in which the archbishop's medallion, worn by Armenian archbishops since the 17th century, was broken
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Christians in Jerusalem want Jews to stop spitting on them
by Amiram Barkat
A few weeks ago, a senior Greek Orthodox clergyman in Israel attended a meeting at a government office in Jerusalem's Givat Shaul quarter. When he returned to his car, an elderly man wearing a skullcap came and knocked on the window. When the clergyman let the window down, the passerby spat in his face.
The clergyman prefered not to lodge a complaint with the police and told an acquaintance that he was used to being spat at by Jews. Many Jerusalem clergy have been subjected to abuse of this kind. For the most part, they ignore it but sometimes they cannot.
http://library.flawlesslogic.com/spitting.htm
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
HOLY SPIT: WHY DO ULTRA-ORTHODOX JEWS SPIT AT CHRISTIANS?
A very embarrassing and persistent problem has arisen in some of the sacred sites in Jerusalem where Christians and Jews cross each other’s paths. Teenagers from a small sector of the city’s many Ultra-Orthodox (“Haredi”) Ashkenazi Jewish communities have taken to spitting at clerics wearing prominent crosses and dressed in traditional garb.
https://tinyurl.com/j77w4jd
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
It's "Normal" for Jews to Spit on Christians in Jerusalem, says Top Catholic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f-WTWYTypc

Google “spitting on Christians”
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Turn the other cheek is probably the right response.

I wonder if spitting back and saying "That tastes like the ham sandwich I had for lunch" would stop the spitting or just escalate into violence.  I read that buses in Jerusalem started hiding some pork in the bus as a deterrent to Muslim bombers who did not want to touch pork at the moment of their deaths. 

 

     
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