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Re: can baptist be saved if they turn away from tongue talking churches
« Reply #1 on: Mon Apr 15, 2019 - 19:19:27 »
Eh????? Tongues is entirely biblical, and whether you are saved or not depends on whether you have accepted Jesus as your Lord and saviour. Makes no difference what denomination you belong to or what church you attend as long as its not a cult. 
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Re: can baptist be saved if they turn away from tongue talking churches
« Reply #2 on: Tue Apr 16, 2019 - 06:14:17 »
can any one answer this for me

I would avoid any church that is Charismatic or Word of Faith.  While I am skeptical of tongues today, AOG and other Pentecostal churches like that are typically more subdued and keep to God's Word

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Re: can baptist be saved if they turn away from tongue talking churches
« Reply #3 on: Thu Feb 06, 2020 - 00:47:22 »
can any one answer this for me

As chosenone here pointed out "Tongues is entirely biblical". But whether you are saved or not depends on whether you are in Christ Jesus or not. Whether you are a baptist or not does not really matter.

The church is not the savior, but Jesus Christ is. 

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Re: can baptist be saved if they turn away from tongue talking churches
« Reply #4 on: Thu Feb 06, 2020 - 03:14:38 »
Can any one answer this for me?

Based upon the scriptures, and the "modern day" (post 1900~Los Angeles, the city of angels devils!) tongue movement~ I would flip that question right back at you and ask you does the Spirit of God truly in dwell modern day speaking in what they called unknown tongues~my answers would be for the MOST PART no the Spirit of TRUTH does not indwell such people but another spirit that's not of God.

 
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Re: can baptist be saved if they turn away from tongue talking churches
« Reply #5 on: Thu Feb 06, 2020 - 03:27:52 »
I would avoid any church that is Charismatic or Word of Faith.  While I am skeptical of tongues today, AOG and other Pentecostal churches like that are typically more subdued and keep to God's Word
Greetings TC~not so sure about that, (being more subdued?......they seemed to be, yet in their overall doctrine, they ARE NOT) but you may be correct, I'm just basing that on my own personal observation~and observed I have carefully. While I will refrain from declaring them children of the devil for without question there are true sheep among most all sects excluding Jehovah Witnesses and the Mormon's churches (and their splinter groups)  of latter-day children of Satan, along with a few of cults whose doctrine concerning CHRIST proves them to be heretics, and they may not even belong to a well-known cults but their doctrine makes them children of the Wicked One.   

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Re: can baptist be saved if they turn away from tongue talking churches
« Reply #6 on: Thu Feb 06, 2020 - 08:54:59 »
Greetings TC~not so sure about that, (being more subdued?......they seemed to be, yet in their overall doctrine, they ARE NOT) but you may be correct, I'm just basing that on my own personal observation~and observed I have carefully. While I will refrain from declaring them children of the devil for without question there are true sheep among most all sects excluding Jehovah Witnesses and the Mormon's churches (and their splinter groups)  of latter-day children of Satan, along with a few of cults whose doctrine concerning CHRIST proves them to be heretics, and they may not even belong to a well-known cults but their doctrine makes them children of the Wicked One.

Assembly of God?  I have attended with family a few AOG congregations and never saw anything strange like Word of Faith/Prosperity Charismatical folks.  Did not witness any tongues at all, and in my opinion as a skeptical non-cessationist, there is very little reason for tongues in this day and age.  I don't believe in prayer tongues, although I know some good people that do.

There are things in AOG that I don't agree with like women preachers, but I didn't see anything I would see that would say they are teaching a heretical gospel.

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Re: can baptist be saved if they turn away from tongue talking churches
« Reply #7 on: Thu Feb 06, 2020 - 08:58:10 »
Greetings TC~not so sure about that, (being more subdued?......they seemed to be, yet in their overall doctrine, they ARE NOT) but you may be correct, I'm just basing that on my own personal observation~and observed I have carefully. While I will refrain from declaring them children of the devil for without question there are true sheep among most all sects excluding Jehovah Witnesses and the Mormon's churches (and their splinter groups)  of latter-day children of Satan, along with a few of cults whose doctrine concerning CHRIST proves them to be heretics, and they may not even belong to a well-known cults but their doctrine makes them children of the Wicked One.

My argument is that Word of Faith/Charismatics are different then Pentecostals.  Pentecostals at least believe in holiness.

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Re: can baptist be saved if they turn away from tongue talking churches
« Reply #8 on: Thu Feb 06, 2020 - 11:18:57 »
Based upon the scriptures, and the "modern day" (post 1900~Los Angeles, the city of angels devils!) tongue movement~ I would flip that question right back at you and ask you does the Spirit of God truly in dwell modern day speaking in what they called unknown tongues~my answers would be for the MOST PART no the Spirit of TRUTH does not indwell such people but another spirit that's not of God.

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of a growing consensus of not save at worst and/or a spirit not of God is within me.

Wonder who I should quit praying for at night for comfort and divine intervention?

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Re: can baptist be saved if they turn away from tongue talking churches
« Reply #9 on: Mon Jun 22, 2020 - 11:32:07 »
The issue with evangelical churches i think we need to address is that we need to implement the holy spirit more including requesting God's spirit and power to fall on our churches much like charismatic and pentecostal churches do. I had this problem many years ago of leaving my church to follow the charismatic faith and ended up with 7 of the loneliest years of my life. I would recommend implementation rather than visitation as it's time we change our churches rather than thinking we need to switch to another "else.' I was a tongue speaker in the churches of christ however for years and came to the conclusion what my tongues were were not real. I don't negate tongues however. I do think on one occasion i spoke in a definite language when i was so full of the spirit i could do nothing else. Language is key here as most of what i practiced was glossalalia. I do believe tongues have a purpose for God if there is a nation or tribe needing the gospel and the Lord needs for them to hear it. To exclude yourself as a christian for not speaking in tongues is not a good idea. My baptism of the holy spirit caused me to speak boldly in the name of the Lord when it came upon me. I don't think i'm not a christian for my experience. Furthermore, a 90 year old woman who gets saved and receives the holy spirit is probably not going to be "drunk as it is only 9 oclock in the monring" (this from acts). The spirit will be as he defines it in our lives not as what the consensus is.

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