1) I think you have an adenda.
2) The way to promote an agenda is to find an extreme example and then try to portray it as somehow representative.
so whats this all about ? don't you believe church and state are to remain seperate?
And any comments about the pastors sermons prayers etc would also be of interest in understanding funda indepen baptist beliefs.
also isnt fred phillips church also -------a independent fundamental baptist church? i guess what i am asking .Is this stuff kinda A
shock and awe sorta Baptist way to draw people through free news and then hope they will want to learn more about independent baptist churches in hopes of more membership?
So by saying they are extreme . You think it gets fundimental independent baptist's off the hook so to speak? especialy if a lutheran asks hinting that their is no love loss between baptist and lutherans .
that would work if one is already a independent fundemental baptist perhaps . But what about those that are not baptist or lutheran
The rest of the world who would like to know more. But I cant make any one tell any one else about their religion .
If you are going to equate this guy and Fred Phelps as standard bearers for Independent Fundamentalist Baptists, would it be okay if I equate practicing homosexual clergy with all Lutherans?
fred phelps not southern baptist, he does not claim to be primitive baptist .
didnt he claim to be a independent fundamental baptist?
i hate to tell ya this but
i dont think the elca homosexual bunch would think to kindly of you placing them amoungst us confessional lutherans after all even they have some scruppels. they dont want to hang around a bunch of sinner's.
on the other hand i thought baptist preacher Fred Phillips liked and was proud of the label indepent fundamental baptist
The conservative Lutherans may not like me pointing to homosexual clergy as their standard bearers any more than many Independent Fundamentalist Baptists would appreciate your insinuation that Phelps is the standard bearer for their type of church.
yet this is what people see when they look at baptists or lutherans . They dont stop and concider any group that wants to can call them selves Lutheran or baptist can call them selves that -------- since the names are not copy writted .
so since people see Lutherans all lumped together under the big umbrella of lutheran and also the same with baptist. You would think instead of being uncomfortable with things like .
"hey Luther was anti-semetic, I read what he said about the jews and there lies'
we would have researched all about it and answered it so many times . It would be come very comfortable to us to answer such things.
Instead of getting upset.
a simple yea fred phillips church has labeled and identified them selves as fundemental independent baptist .
now let me tell ya what my fundamental independent baptist church teaches . about how one such treat sinners who also need Jesus.
when challanged about Luther's anti-semetism . Rather than bring up all the nasty facts about why luther became so angry .
it seems To get peoples attention better and draw them in to a conversation about the reason Jesus came .
yes luther and those jews bore real and true sins did they not? And its a good thing to.
Because God does not save imaginerary sinners.
We must be honest and bold about our sins AND LET OUR TRUST IN Jesus his FORGIVNES BE EVEN Stronger Than our sin.s.
now if God could save some one as evil as Luther dont you think he could save just as easly a dirty rotten rat like me and you the very same way?
Gods blessings and
get to like answering comfortably the uncomfortable questions because God has not put us here to fill our own church pews down here but heaven up their.