How Many Baptists

[Victorious]

Southern Baptist now, but used to attend in an Independent.  My husband is the pastor and his background was Assemblies of God and he privately speaks in tongues.  I do not.  He is more Arminian and I have Calvinist views.  He preaches sin and repentance, does not hesitate to call a spade a spade on false teaching since there are many wiccans, JWs and 7th Day Adventists in the town.  We run a community Food Bank and prayer meeting is on Wednesday.

From my experience, the only difference between SBC and Independent, is the preacher.

[ex cathedra]

Hi, Bonnie!  Yes, I'm a Baptist.  I was recently attending a Southern Bapist church, but have recently switched back to an Indepentant Fundamentalist church, where I was first saved and attended for two or three years.  I'm not sure what the difference between the two is, if any.  The Southern Baptist church was slightly more liberal, but that could have just been a difference in Pastors. And the Southern Baptist church was a part of an organization of the SBC, wheras this church isn't.

love,

Sopranette

Not being a baptist. What do baptist mean by the term liberal . and  How  were the southern  more liberal ?

[sopranette]

"Liberal" in the sense of music choices, clothing choices for both men and women, and that women were in charge of every office except Pastor or Deacon.  Not politically liberal, just liberal as compared to other Baptist churches I have attended.  That's not why I left, though.  It's a good church, with a fine Pastor, but I couldn't deal with the drama behind the scenes.  Plus my children were too old for the nursery, but too young for the general congregation.

love,

sopranette 

[Jon-Marc]

I see nothing wrong with being Spirit filled and Spirit led, but too many Pentecostal churches put way too much emphasis on the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit points people to Jesus and not to Himself. Of course, God is a Triune God, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. We can't leave one out and say He's not important. However, each of the Three has a different function, and the function of the Holy Spirit is to convict the lost of their need of a Saviour and point them to Jesus, to convict the saved of sin in their lives, teach, guide, and direct us toward being a mature and spiritual child of God.

You forgot that the Holy Spirit was also given to us for power to live out our salvation( Acts 1:8). He also manifest himself through us in the in ways that man can not do without the Holy Spirit.

Isn't that included in what I said about His work in Christians?

[StanleyTruelove]

I thought this was a forum for Baptist jokes like, How many Baptist does it take to change a light bulb?  lol

Several have posted the question about the difference between Southern Baptist and Independent Baptist.  My experience with Independent Baptist is that the doctrine of the church can be radically different between churches because it's sole basis is the pastor (leader) and what he preaches from the pulpit and not from an outside committee.  Most by-laws of individual churches are so generic that I know one church that just photocopied another churches by-laws and whited-out the name of the church, and then put their own on the same page lol.  Some view Southern Baptist as less of a chance of embezzlement due to the convention watching things and more checks and balances.  The larget the church, the more checks and balances there should be, as long as it doesn't prevent individual members from acting on the Holy Spirit's direction.

I can say, however, that corruption is going to occur in any organization involving man.  A con to the Southern Baptist convention is they tell the pastors where to put churches and not to put churches based on statistics not the Holy Spirit's guidance.

[canuck]

I fellowship at a conservative Baptist congregation. Doctrinally, I am Reformed with Baptist convictions concerning the mode of baptism and the liberty of conscience that is enshrined in Baptist heritage.

I do not like to call myself a "Baptist" but rather a Christian because I do not have a strict sense of parochialism. I have served as a deacon and elder in Pentecostal. Baptist and Presbyterian congregations. For me, the most important aspects of choosing a fellowship is its adherence to the Word of God as " final authority" and the manifestation of love that esteems the other person  better than ourselves ( see Phil. 2:2,3).

canuck

[Silvia]

My dh and I are between churches right now - moving from a GARB church to probably an IFCA church. IFCA meaning Independent Fundamental Churches of America (aka I Find Christ Adequate). GARB meaning General Association of Regular Baptists (aka General Association of Rebellious Baptists).

The GARBs are similar doctrinally to the IFCA folks; I really haven't found any noticeable differences. They both tend to be 4 1/2 point Calvinists, not charismatic, congregational in structure. I was raised IFCA; we were taught to keep our hands folded during services to keep them from raising (okay, I'm joking - sort of)! Of course, things are a bit different these days; services are more informal, so some folks do raise their hands. I don't; it seems so *charismatic* (gasp!). I've heard us referred to as the "frozen chosen"; compared to some other denominations (Southern Baptists?), I suppose we might seem that way.

[zoonance]

As opposed to the melted knelted? :)

[ex cathedra]

I love that song... "Nothing But the Blood"...   Only, we kinda sang it "Rockin" when I was in the A/G choir.  

What can wash away my sin?
Nothing but the blood of Jesus;
What can make me whole again?
Nothing but the blood of Jesus.

Refrain

Oh! precious is the flow
That makes me white as snow;
No other fount I know,
Nothing but the blood of Jesus.

For my pardon, this I see,
Nothing but the blood of Jesus;
For my cleansing this my plea,
Nothing but the blood of Jesus.

Refrain

Nothing can for sin atone,
Nothing but the blood of Jesus;
Naught of good that I have done,
Nothing but the blood of Jesus.

Refrain

This is all my hope and peace,
Nothing but the blood of Jesus;
This is all my righteousness,
Nothing but the blood of Jesus.

Refrain

Now by this I’ll overcome—
Nothing but the blood of Jesus,
Now by this I’ll reach my home—
Nothing but the blood of Jesus.

Refrain

Glory! Glory! This I sing—
Nothing but the blood of Jesus,
All my praise for this I bring—
Nothing but the blood of Jesus.

  

I believe also that only the blood of Jesus can save us, wash away our sins.
 

That is very true.

I believe also that only the blood of Jesus can save us, wash away our sins.
 

That is very true.

I believe also that only the blood of Jesus can save us, wash away our sins.
 

I love that one too. It's always been a favorite of mine.  

Amen!
 Jesus blood and rightiousness
http://www.hymntime.com/tch/htm/j/t/jtbloodr.htm


http://www.hymntime.com/tch/htm/j/s/d/jsdrecev.htm

[farouk]

ex c:

I would not equate the cleansing of the sinner by the blood of Christ, with participating in the Lord's Supper, which is a remembrance (1 Cor. 11.26).

I love that song... "Nothing But the Blood"...   Only, we kinda sang it "Rockin" when I was in the A/G choir.   

What can wash away my sin?
Nothing but the blood of Jesus;
What can make me whole again?
Nothing but the blood of Jesus.

Refrain

Oh! precious is the flow
That makes me white as snow;
No other fount I know,
Nothing but the blood of Jesus.

For my pardon, this I see,
Nothing but the blood of Jesus;
For my cleansing this my plea,
Nothing but the blood of Jesus.

Refrain

Nothing can for sin atone,
Nothing but the blood of Jesus;
Naught of good that I have done,
Nothing but the blood of Jesus.

Refrain

This is all my hope and peace,
Nothing but the blood of Jesus;
This is all my righteousness,
Nothing but the blood of Jesus.

Refrain

Now by this I’ll overcome—
Nothing but the blood of Jesus,
Now by this I’ll reach my home—
Nothing but the blood of Jesus.

Refrain

Glory! Glory! This I sing—
Nothing but the blood of Jesus,
All my praise for this I bring—
Nothing but the blood of Jesus.

   

I believe also that only the blood of Jesus can save us, wash away our sins.
 

That is very true.

I believe also that only the blood of Jesus can save us, wash away our sins.
 

That is very true.

I believe also that only the blood of Jesus can save us, wash away our sins.
 

I love that one too. It's always been a favorite of mine. 

Amen! Amen! Amen !

That precious blood OF Jesus shed for us on the cross that we receive in Word and the washing of that word in the sacraments
of baptism and the Lords supper.

[zoonance]

...does it take to change a light bulb? 

[farouk]

Z:

So are you the resident jokester?

(You certainly joked round the tattoo thread I started...)

...does it take to change a light bulb? 

[ex cathedra]

dont know about baptist's?---  I think the joke goes  0 for Confessional lutherans since they dont like change .

[canuck]

...does it take to change a light bulb? 

Z:

So are you the resident jokester?

(You certainly joked round the tattoo thread I started...)

Yes, Z seems obsessed by a need to humour us. No problem, we need some of that on this forum

canuck

...does it take to change a light bulb? 

[parrotforlife]

no boc it not the truth. If you not baptist and dont like baptists that fine but keep your insulting insults to yourself. You dont see me insulting your religion but lord knows i couold if u like.
baptists although it preached about speaking in tongues it not something we practice