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« on: September 02, 2008, 01:28:13 PM »
Anyone heard this before?
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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2008, 08:35:56 PM »
I heard it mentioned in an unflattering way, but I have no idea what it actually means.  Care to enlighten us?
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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2009, 03:32:28 PM »
never heard of it before you posted your question. i did a search and found nothing. does anyone know what the belief of triple predestination is?
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2009, 07:42:48 AM »
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never heard of it before you posted your question. i did a search and found nothing. does anyone know what the belief of triple predestination is?
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 Check up Greek Gnosticism, you will most likely find it's roots in there somewhere!   Marcus
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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2009, 02:27:21 PM »
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never heard of it before you posted your question. i did a search and found nothing. does anyone know what the belief of triple predestination is?

 Check up Greek Gnosticism, you will most likely find it's roots in there somewhere!   Marcus
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I know more than the average bear about gnosticism, and the only thing I recall of election came from the Sethites.  But it had naught to do with this.

After checking up a few places, I came up with the answer that triple predestination is a descriptor that:
1) some are destined to be saved
2) some are conditionally destined to be saved, and
3) some are destined to be damned
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2009, 02:36:30 PM »
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 You just reminded me of one of my favourite kiddies T.V. programes of many years ago, Yogi Bear! Now that does bring back good memories. Watching the show and eating popcorn
 I mentioned Gnosticism because of it's effect on Augustine, also the developement of Gnosticism over the years. From the old Greek God's, to the developement of the 'immovable mover', from where many of Augustines ideas of predestination came from.
 What was Yogi's park ranger called again, im wrecking my head trying to remember??? Banging head against wall
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2010, 01:59:48 AM »
Quote from: Wycliffes_Shillelagh on October 21, 2009, 02:27:21 PM
After checking up a few places, I came up with the answer that triple predestination is a descriptor that:
1) some are destined to be saved
2) some are conditionally destined to be saved, and
3) some are destined to be damned

I've heard of double predestination, before, which is the view that most extreme and hyper-Calvinists hold, and includes your numbers 1 and 3. I have not heard of triple predestination, however. Who holds to this teaching? Furthermore, how is "conditionally destined to be saved" explained, especially in light of the other two?
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2010, 06:34:06 AM »
Quote from: marcus on October 22, 2009, 02:36:30 PM
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 You just reminded me of one of my favourite kiddies T.V. programes of many years ago, Yogi Bear! Now that does bring back good memories. Watching the show and eating popcorn

 What was Yogi's park ranger called again, im wrecking my head trying to remember??? Banging head against wall
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2010, 07:18:42 AM »
I only believe in single predestination (the elect).. the non-elect are going based on their nature and the consequences of their sin.. it has nothing to do with God willing them to go to hell or predetermining it.
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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2010, 01:50:49 AM »
I Googled it and this thread came up!  Smile
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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2010, 08:24:30 AM »
Quote from: Tantor on January 21, 2010, 07:18:42 AM
I only believe in single predestination (the elect).. the non-elect are going based on their nature and the consequences of their sin.. it has nothing to do with God willing them to go to hell or predetermining it.

If some are predestined to go to heaven, aren't those not predestined to go to heaven necessarily predestined to go somewhere else, by definition?
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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2010, 10:53:52 AM »
Quote from: Jimmy on January 25, 2010, 08:24:30 AM
Quote from: Tantor on January 21, 2010, 07:18:42 AM
I only believe in single predestination (the elect).. the non-elect are going based on their nature and the consequences of their sin.. it has nothing to do with God willing them to go to hell or predetermining it.

If some are predestined to go to heaven, aren't those not predestined to go to heaven necessarily predestined to go somewhere else, by definition?

No... only if you accept the premise that it has to be either or.  Which is not the case here.
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