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Question: What do you think of Calvinism?
Calvinism is a false teaching.   -14 (30.4%)
Calvinism has some truth at its root, but taken to the extreme its teaching are not Biblical.   -14 (30.4%)
While not lining up completely with Scripture, I think Calvinism is about as close as any theological system out there.   -0 (0%)
Calvinism is exactly what the Bible teaches.   -13 (28.3%)
Other.   -5 (10.9%)
Total Voters: 44

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« on: July 08, 2008, 05:18:21 PM »
What do you think of Calvinism?
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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2008, 05:24:12 PM »
Quote from: spurly on July 08, 2008, 05:18:21 PM
What do you think of Calvinism?

I believe, like Spurgeon, it is another name for the Gospel. I also believe that many Calvinist are nothing but foolish intellectuals who make an idol out of theology. They see theology as the end, and not the means to knowing the end, namely God.

But yeah...I believe it is exactly what the Bible teaches.
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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2008, 05:37:44 PM »
You believe Spurgeon is another name for the Gospel? Confused Confused Confused
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« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2008, 06:44:17 PM »
Quote from: spurly on July 08, 2008, 05:18:21 PM
What do you think of Calvinism?

First of all, by virture of the composition of this sentence, you reveal your own limited understanding.  You would have to define what you mean by "Calvinism".   If you speak to an educated reformed theologian, it depends on many factors....Calvinism meant different things in different historical time periods.  Calvinism today has hundreds of filters, many groups apply teachings of Calvin in many different ways, from meager to extreme.  A more sincere, less condemnatory and labeling way to handle your inquiry would be to limit your question to specific doctrinal issues.  "Calvinism" to you may mean something entirely different to the one responding to your question.   It's like me coming on this board and asking "what do you think of Arminianism?".  One may be able to give a general "agree" or "disagree" reponse, but nothing much beyond that because the mutual understanding of what it actually means may be quite different in each individual's theological context.
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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2008, 06:52:21 PM »
One also needs to realize TULIP is a characterization of beliefs by those that don't share them.  TULIP was derogatory.
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« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2008, 06:52:26 PM »
Quote from: da525382 on July 08, 2008, 06:44:17 PM
Quote from: spurly on July 08, 2008, 05:18:21 PM
What do you think of Calvinism?

First of all, by virture of the composition of this sentence, you reveal your own limited understanding.  You would have to define what you mean by "Calvinism".   If you speak to an educated reformed theologian, it depends on many factors....Calvinism meant different things in different historical time periods.  Calvinism today has hundreds of filters, many groups apply teachings of Calvin in many different ways, from meager to extreme.  A more sincere, less condemnatory and labeling way to handle your inquiry would be to limit your question to specific doctrinal issues.  "Calvinism" to you may mean something entirely different to the one responding to your question.   It's like me coming on this board and asking "what do you think of Arminianism?".  One may be able to give a general "agree" or "disagree" reponse, but nothing much beyond that because the mutual understanding of what it actually means may be quite different in each individual's theological context.

Thanks, Don, for that input.  However, what does Calvinism mean to you or anyone else who would answer the question?
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« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2008, 06:53:28 PM »
Quote from: Gary on July 08, 2008, 06:52:21 PM
One also needs to realize TULIP is a characterization of beliefs by those that don't share them.  TULIP was derogatory.

This sure gets confusing.
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« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2008, 06:54:24 PM »
Quote from: Bonnie on July 08, 2008, 06:53:28 PM
Quote from: Gary on July 08, 2008, 06:52:21 PM
One also needs to realize TULIP is a characterization of beliefs by those that don't share them.  TULIP was derogatory.

This sure gets confusing.

Bonnie,

If I took what you believe and what I thought you believed and put it in an acrostic, you would have what TULIP represents.
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« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2008, 06:57:13 PM »
Quote from: Gary on July 08, 2008, 06:54:24 PM
Quote from: Bonnie on July 08, 2008, 06:53:28 PM
Quote from: Gary on July 08, 2008, 06:52:21 PM
One also needs to realize TULIP is a characterization of beliefs by those that don't share them.  TULIP was derogatory.

This sure gets confusing.

Bonnie,

If I took what you believe and what I thought you believed and put it in an acrostic, you would have what TULIP represents.

Gary,

Doesn't sound like a very trustworthy theory to me.
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For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.  Hebrews 11:8,10
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« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2008, 06:59:05 PM »
Quote from: Bonnie on July 08, 2008, 06:57:13 PM
Quote from: Gary on July 08, 2008, 06:54:24 PM
Quote from: Bonnie on July 08, 2008, 06:53:28 PM
Quote from: Gary on July 08, 2008, 06:52:21 PM
One also needs to realize TULIP is a characterization of beliefs by those that don't share them.  TULIP was derogatory.

This sure gets confusing.

Bonnie,

If I took what you believe and what I thought you believed and put it in an acrostic, you would have what TULIP represents.

Gary,

Doesn't sound like a very trustworthy theory to me.

I'm not saying pro- or anti-TULIP.  I am saying that TULIP is an outsiders view of Calvinistic belief.  Or as some folks would rather call it "The Doctrines of Grace."
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« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2008, 07:02:19 PM »
Quote from: Gary on July 08, 2008, 06:59:05 PM
Quote from: Bonnie on July 08, 2008, 06:57:13 PM
Quote from: Gary on July 08, 2008, 06:54:24 PM
Quote from: Bonnie on July 08, 2008, 06:53:28 PM
Quote from: Gary on July 08, 2008, 06:52:21 PM
One also needs to realize TULIP is a characterization of beliefs by those that don't share them.  TULIP was derogatory.

This sure gets confusing.

Bonnie,

If I took what you believe and what I thought you believed and put it in an acrostic, you would have what TULIP represents.

Gary,

Doesn't sound like a very trustworthy theory to me.

I'm not saying pro- or anti-TULIP.  I am saying that TULIP is an outsiders view of Calvinistic belief.  Or as some folks would rather call it "The Doctrines of Grace."

If you mean "outsider's" view as in men then I agree.  But aren't all these theories based on man's comprehension of Scripture?
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By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.
For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.  Hebrews 11:8,10
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« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2008, 07:06:06 PM »
Quote from: Bonnie on July 08, 2008, 06:52:26 PM
Quote from: da525382 on July 08, 2008, 06:44:17 PM
Quote from: spurly on July 08, 2008, 05:18:21 PM
What do you think of Calvinism?

First of all, by virture of the composition of this sentence, you reveal your own limited understanding.  You would have to define what you mean by "Calvinism".   If you speak to an educated reformed theologian, it depends on many factors....Calvinism meant different things in different historical time periods.  Calvinism today has hundreds of filters, many groups apply teachings of Calvin in many different ways, from meager to extreme.  A more sincere, less condemnatory and labeling way to handle your inquiry would be to limit your question to specific doctrinal issues.  "Calvinism" to you may mean something entirely different to the one responding to your question.   It's like me coming on this board and asking "what do you think of Arminianism?".  One may be able to give a general "agree" or "disagree" reponse, but nothing much beyond that because the mutual understanding of what it actually means may be quite different in each individual's theological context.

Thanks, Don, for that input.  However, what does Calvinism mean to you or anyone else who would answer the question?

But the question is "what do you think of Calvinism", not "what does Calvinism mean to you".  What I'm saying is that it is impossible to answer the question without knowing how the one posting it defines "Calvinism".
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« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2008, 07:17:54 PM »
Quote from: da525382 on July 08, 2008, 07:06:06 PM
Quote from: Bonnie on July 08, 2008, 06:52:26 PM
Quote from: da525382 on July 08, 2008, 06:44:17 PM
Quote from: spurly on July 08, 2008, 05:18:21 PM
What do you think of Calvinism?

First of all, by virture of the composition of this sentence, you reveal your own limited understanding.  You would have to define what you mean by "Calvinism".   If you speak to an educated reformed theologian, it depends on many factors....Calvinism meant different things in different historical time periods.  Calvinism today has hundreds of filters, many groups apply teachings of Calvin in many different ways, from meager to extreme.  A more sincere, less condemnatory and labeling way to handle your inquiry would be to limit your question to specific doctrinal issues.  "Calvinism" to you may mean something entirely different to the one responding to your question.   It's like me coming on this board and asking "what do you think of Arminianism?".  One may be able to give a general "agree" or "disagree" reponse, but nothing much beyond that because the mutual understanding of what it actually means may be quite different in each individual's theological context.

Thanks, Don, for that input.  However, what does Calvinism mean to you or anyone else who would answer the question?

But the question is "what do you think of Calvinism", not "what does Calvinism mean to you".  What I'm saying is that it is impossible to answer the question without knowing how the one posting it defines "Calvinism".

I don't know, I can't answer the question until it is defined.
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« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2008, 08:15:54 PM »
Quote from: Gary on July 08, 2008, 06:52:21 PM
One also needs to realize TULIP is a characterization of beliefs by those that don't share them.  TULIP was derogatory.

Why do you say it is (was) derogatory?  In what way was it so?  Isn't simply and acrostic for what has become known as the five points of Calvinism?
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« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2008, 09:14:20 PM »
Sorry I should not have posted such remarks so I erased them and made ad-minds in its place Please for give me for such unruly manners.
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