My previous post still stands. Calling the Wh0re an apostate Christian Church is YOUR tradition, YOUR apologetic, YOUR man made reasoning trying to project what sounds right onto Sacred Scripture. No where, not once, in all of Sacred Scripture is the Wh0re of Babylon taught to be an apostate Christian Church.
The angel explained clearly what the Wh0re of Babylon truly is in lamen terms but YOU, Mclees the Great refuse(and I mean refuses hard) to acknowledge it. The angel said without symbolism or metaphoric expression, that the Wh0re of Babylon is a city that sits on seven hills riding the back of an empire made up of ten conquered kingdoms.
Period Mcless. I mean its done. Done. There's no way for you to twist the vision of the Wh0re to fit an entity that didn't exist distinctively on its own for another 1000 years. You protestants truly blow my mind. Sorry we don't your man made interpretation of Revelation 17 because within that very same chapter THE TRUE INTERPRETATION IS ALREADY GIVEN. Given by an angel of God, we don't need to hear your profuse attempts to "create" an explanation. It is given right there in the text. Period.
Actually I see the interpretation quite clearly as being symbolic and metaphor. Actua mind. I think your playing doge ball just being the contrary argumentative person you are. I believe in an unbiased vote my idea would win. But at least Im glad to have had the opportunity to identify Babylon for what it is having so many views.
Tell yourself whatever helps you sleep at night, battle. You know just as well as I that you're only foling yourself.
Revelation 17:7And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
Stop marveling Mclees. Stop looking the vision riddled with symbolism and metaphors trying to figure out the meaning on your own, the answer is given to you just as it was given to the Early Church.
8The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
9And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
10And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
11And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
12And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
13These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
14These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
15And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the wh*re sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
16And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the wh*re, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
17For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
18And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
Let it go Mclees you have been proven wrong.
Proven Wrong? I here your ego again.
There are many different views of these verse. No one has the exact pat answer.
But i believe the general consensus would be is the whore of Babylon is the Vatican. And when we look there is really only one entity that fits every detail and description of 17. Har;ot whore means by biblical terms refers to Gods people who have disobeyed Gods commandments to make no league with world and its idolitiries Yet we know that the Vatican is deeply evolved with the world. which is Babylon. And for you to deny that would be utterly blind, but thats pride and ego for you. That great city where the woman sits not only speaks of a literal place with a description it symbolizes Babylon because it is everything the world is. religiously, politically and commercially. Rome is a capital place that is the epitome of Babylon. One has to discern that. It has the powerful religious order there, It was the capital of the most powerful Roman empire. that ruled over a thousand years. It was the hub of commercial enterprise. wealth flowed to and from Rome. To deny this would be utterly blind. So it is literally and symbolically Babylon. it really jumps right off the page at you.
You always pick at heirs to shift things. Like The vatican only sits on one hill but it is literally a part of all that Rome symbolizes and is, and Rome sits on seven hills. Oh we could go on and on about all this but I know what is realistically true.
It also describe as sitting on many waters. We know the peoples and nations tongues means power and influence on a world scale and that the Vatican has, She rides the back of the beast. The beast is summed up as the worlds political messiah who will have ten nations to back him up. There is a lot of speculation as to who these ten are but its enough that we know ten will give him power. and when it is no longer needed he will throw down the whore who he secretly despises and destroy her. After all one who wants to be God god of earth would not want to share his position with the popes. Well i have things to do now and i must go.
See ya latter LH.