If we want to find the answer we have not to the next verses John 2:16,17
For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
All that the world is of and what we are to be separate from is in these 3 categories. In these is everything man desires. It also includes what we put our faith in such as the worlds religious political and monetary systems. In short it is Babylon. All that is of the world is Babylon and Babylon is dominated by the spirit of antichrist in the world. and when the church embraces these things it is also in Babylon which we are warned to come out of
Food for thought
Seems like you agree with what the Catholic Church has always proclaimed, exactly the answers that were given to you.
On the other hand, the move to become worldly has overtaken Protestant churches. The Presbyterian Church (PCUSA) recently changed to ordain gay ministers in a sexually active relationship. Apparently they had to keep up with the ELCA Lutherans and the Episcopalians. Other Protestant churches have resorted to extravagant giveaways to attract people to come to Easter services, like electronics dropped from a helicopter. Its a fight for the almighty American dollar between Protestant and non-denominational churches in America, and the teachings of Jesus and the gospel are the inconvenient truth that they are abandoning. Its going to only degrade more and more as indifference sets in. But even that is not as bad as forsaking the assembly altogether, which is another thing it seems people who are deceived by the world do.
Oh it has very much come into Protest ism. but the one who sits a queen of this worldliness you turn a blinded eye. The apostate church of 17 is called the Mother of Harlots. Was it not her corruptions that gave birth to denominationalism. Still in the mist there is the bride and she will be taken out of all this.
I am a member of the Church which Jesus promised would send the Holy Spirit to lead into all truth, the Church which the gates of Hell would not prevail against it. You are just a lone person on an internet forum with an opinion and a bone to pick. Why would I trust you over 2000 years of continuous Church teaching? Who stands up against immorality in the world today like the Catholic Church? Who is God's greatest champion for life on Earth? Which other Church, based upon its teachings, has had prophecy come true like that proclaimed in documents like Humanae Vitae? Which Church gave us the Bible?
Seriously, it is you who are deceived, not I, and by a single issue which seems to be your whole beef with the Catholic Church, a single issue which you fallibly make and stand upon as if that was what God directly revealed to you. I am very glad that I am not in that position.
Truth does not come by affiliation to the organization. Truth comes by knowing Christ and those who love Him have put his word in their heart striving everyday to achieve his righteousness.
My Church was there loving the Lord, and they teach that we need to turn our hearts toward him and strive every day to become holy.
If you then continue in my word then you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. Thy word have I hid in my heart that i may not sin against thee. It is what Christ has put in our hearts that has survived 2000 years and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.
My Church has continued in His word and teaches the truth, and it sets people free, free to love God, free from their sins. This Church and this teaching and this means has survived 2000 years and will survive forever until Jesus comes again.
It may seem like some personal bone but it is not. It is one that is shared even by the Lord himself. I stand against what God hates such as misrepresentation of his will for us.
Honestly, I believe that God hates that you are trying to drag down His Church, misrepresenting it as the wh*re of Babylon. He went through great trouble to found a Church for you and even instituted seven sacraments to help you, with His grace, to get to heaven. By fighting against it, you spit on the gift He gave to you.
failure to teach and live up to the principles of his word before his church in understanding the world at large and though we live amongst we are of no faith in it. The church today and not just catholic is in grate danger of apostasy. The the great apostasy began when the bishops of Rome sought power and prominence to rule religiously and politically the empire and beyond, even the world.
The great apostasy began in your heart long ago when you apostatized. You have chosen to become an apostate, I choose not to follow you.
And so goes the church today as we look more and more to the politics of this world to solve its moral problems instead of staying faithful to Christ and his second coming.
Its not an either/or problem. Its both/and. The Church are the people of earth too, and we work through the governments that God ordained to maintain justice, as far as is just, according to God's law. We also work to change our own hearts so that we can bring the kingdom now.
yes we are to love our neighbor even as ourselves but only as lights that shine in the dark, not becoming evolved with the dark.
Government is not the dark, governments and leaders are given to us by God. How can you say that government is evil when God ordains it?
Man cannot solves its his own moral problems by looking to men and the end is already written and the judgments of it.
Agreed. We already have the moral solution by looking to God, and the purpose of religion that is pure and undefiled is to help the widows and orphans AND to help people remain unstained by the world. That is a good description of the Catholic religion.
As the Lord Has said come out of Babylon
I am not part of Babylon. I am guessing that you probably have read "Babylon Mystery Religion", am I correct?