Catholic bashing

[winsome]

I joined this forum only recently and thought there could be some useful discussions on Catholic doctrines and practices. But reading through some of the threads in the Catholic Forum and particularly the current ones I am appalled by the hate and distortions being spewed out by some of the Protestant participants. I'm very surprised that this is tolerated. The forum is obviously poorly moderated.

I don't think I shall hang round just to be abused.

God bless

winsome

[banished]

I joined this forum only recently and thought there could be some useful discussions on Catholic doctrines and practices. But reading through some of the threads in the Catholic Forum and particularly the current ones I am appalled by the hate and distortions being spewed out by some of the Protestant participants. I'm very surprised that this is tolerated. The forum is obviously poorly moderated.

I don't think I shall hang round just to be abused.

God bless

winsome

Hello winsome,

Sometimes I wonder why we Catholics put up with all the Bashing?  One thing to remember is that the Internet has attracted guys who like to talk smack, but who have never had the guts to do it man to man. That fact seems to be a constant with all Internet Forums. We have to face another fact that Catholic Bashing is the only acceptable prejudice left in the United States.  Catholics are often confident that they have a fuller truth, so bashing doesn’t seem to really matter. Catholics want to concentrate on the things they can do to evangelize, so you let the chips fall where they may. The prejudice is very real on this Forum but you can’t allow yourself to get bitter. It would be surprising if they didn’t hate the Church. Most Forum members define themselves in relation to Catholicism. They call themselves "enlightened" in relation to the Middle Ages; "Protestants" are defined in relation to the Catholic experience. Both unbelievers and other Christians define themselves in relation to the Church. All of our history books have a built-in anti-Catholic bias. Catholics have gradually accepted the premises of the other side by absorbing the tonality and the manners of the prejudice. But remember, Catholics are generally doing well in America; they like America, and they think anti-Catholicism is a kind of fringe position on these Internet Forums. Mostly from disgrunted divorsed Catholics who are excommunicated. The abuse continues on!
   

[winsome]

I joined this forum only recently and thought there could be some useful discussions on Catholic doctrines and practices. But reading through some of the threads in the Catholic Forum and particularly the current ones I am appalled by the hate and distortions being spewed out by some of the Protestant participants. I'm very surprised that this is tolerated. The forum is obviously poorly moderated.

I don't think I shall hang round just to be abused.

God bless

winsome

Hello winsome,

Sometimes I wonder why we Catholics put up with all the Bashing?  One thing to remember is that the Internet has attracted guys who like to talk smack, but who have never had the guts to do it man to man. That fact seems to be a constant with all Internet Forums. We have to face another fact that Catholic Bashing is the only acceptable prejudice left in the United States.  Catholics are often confident that they have a fuller truth, so bashing doesn’t seem to really matter. Catholics want to concentrate on the things they can do to evangelize, so you let the chips fall where they may. The prejudice is very real on this Forum but you can’t allow yourself to get bitter. It would be surprising if they didn’t hate the Church. Most Forum members define themselves in relation to Catholicism. They call themselves "enlightened" in relation to the Middle Ages; "Protestants" are defined in relation to the Catholic experience. Both unbelievers and other Christians define themselves in relation to the Church. All of our history books have a built-in anti-Catholic bias. Catholics have gradually accepted the premises of the other side by absorbing the tonality and the manners of the prejudice. But remember, Catholics are generally doing well in America; they like America, and they think anti-Catholicism is a kind of fringe position on these Internet Forums. Mostly from disgrunted divorsed Catholics who are excommunicated. The abuse continues on!
   

I'm not bitter banished, just sad at the lack of charity.

[broach972]

I joined this forum only recently and thought there could be some useful discussions on Catholic doctrines and practices. But reading through some of the threads in the Catholic Forum and particularly the current ones I am appalled by the hate and distortions being spewed out by some of the Protestant participants. I'm very surprised that this is tolerated. The forum is obviously poorly moderated.

I don't think I shall hang round just to be abused.

God bless

winsome

You just have no idea how ugly it has gotten in the past.  You will see some names in black...not a good sign.  It has gotten a little better though in the past few months.  There are some very nice members here who have great questions and who really want to know what Catholics truly believe in.

Withhold your judgements until you have spent some time here.  You will run into some that will try your patience but I have learned just to ignore them and go with the flow.

[desertknight]

I basically agree with broach, but I have been here long enough do develop a prickly defence when people step over the line.  When others who call themselves "Christians", drag Holy Mother Church through the mud, I give it back to them.  I won't sit like a potted plant.  I know this is not a Catholic board and many here are great Christian people, but I have posted on a couple of Catholic boards and if anyone attacked Protestants with the same language that I have seen here...they would be immediately banned.   The odd thing is, you just don't really see it on Catholic boards.  I don't know why it is so different.  I suspect it is just that we generally don't give Protestants much thought, not in a bad way, it's just we don't really think that much about them, contrarily, my experience discussing things with Protestants here though is that many of them have grown up with some very, very, harsh ideas about the Catholic Church, much of it based on erroneous information, and think much about us.  The other thing that causes me to  , is that you can tell someone how they have gotten a big point of Catholic belief wrong, prove it with irrefutable evidence, correct them as charitably as possible, and then two days later they are repeating the same old baseless charge that they know to be wrong to begin with.  One fellow here kept insisting that a basic tenet of Catholic belief was that Popes claim to be, "God", no kidding, this ignorant man actually kept insisting that it is Church doctrine that Popes claim divinity.  Now of course it comes from the concept of being Christ's "Vicar".  No matter how I explained to him that not only Popes, but Bishops and priests, including Anglican "vicars" and Lutheran pastors, use the same title, and no matter how much I sited irrefutable evidence that no Pope claims to be a deity and that it simply means that he is the "place holder" of Christ, i.e., the representative of Christ's authority, (As the Father has sent Me, so I send you...), and that it is perfectly consistent with Scripture and common sense, the guy was back using the same basic, "Popes claim to be God", charge again and again without any evidence to support it of course.   I just scratch my head at such incidences and wonder what motivates people to dwell in such ignorance.  

[winsome]

There seem to be multitudinous protestant web sites dedicated to Catholic bashing in the most nasty and deciptful ways but I don't know of any Catholic web sites dedicated to Protestant bashing.   

I stick around for a bit.

God bless

winsome

[ex cathedra]

I joined this forum only recently and thought there could be some useful discussions on Catholic doctrines and practices. But reading through some of the threads in the Catholic Forum and particularly the current ones I am appalled by the hate and distortions being spewed out by some of the Protestant participants. I'm very surprised that this is tolerated. The forum is obviously poorly moderated.

I don't think I shall hang round just to be abused.



God bless

winsome

Are they bashing Roman Catholics ? Or the  papacys anathema doctrines which are very Anti- Christ .Since theses doctrines of his,  reject that  people of faith in Jesus merits alone , are TRULY  saved by their dear savior Jesus perfect atoning work .

Dont you find it wrong that the papacy can bash Jesus his atoning work for Christians including Roman catholic christians.


 But if some christian bashes  the popes dirty rotten sticking to high heavens doctrines that reject Jesus his perfect work only then some  Roman Catholics  call foul !

[desertknight]

There seem to be multitudinous protestant web sites dedicated to Catholic bashing in the most nasty and deciptful ways but I don't know of any Catholic web sites dedicated to Protestant bashing.   

Exactly!  There are hundreds of them.  Maybe there are some Catholic ones like that, but I have never heard or seen one.  Like I said, it is a night and day difference.

[ex cathedra]

There seem to be multitudinous protestant web sites dedicated to Catholic bashing in the most nasty and deciptful ways but I don't know of any Catholic web sites dedicated to Protestant bashing.  

Exactly!  There are hundreds of them.  Maybe there are some Catholic ones like that, but I have never heard or seen one.  Like I said, it is a night and day difference.

i wonder why we never see any Roman Catholic sites bash the pope for bashing their Jesus!

Why must us protestants keep this man in check when it should be your Job to do that?

[desertknight]

i wonder why we never see any Roman Catholic sites bash the pope for bashing their Jesus!

Why must us protestants keep this man in check when it should be your Job to do that?

Thanks 'ex'.    Some may have thought we were being unfair in our assessments but your filth comment above will prove in spades the very point we are making.

[farouk]

Let's not get personal. Let's just say that it is to be expected that when statements are made and things done, there will be ppl who test them in the light of the Scriptures.

[Nevertheless]

Ex cathedra and desertknight, you are both over the line. Dial it down, please.

[desertknight]

pope for bashing their Jesus!

Then according to the rules of this board, this statement must be shown to be provable by reasonable evidence or it is in violation of board rules of conduct.  Calling someone a "fool" is not improper when they clearly demonstrate that they are one.  

[farouk]

Again, let's not get personal. Let's just say that it is to be expected that when statements are made and things done, there will be ppl who test them in the light of the Scriptures.

That is the central issue.

[desertknight]

Again, let's not get personal. Let's just say that it is to be expected that when statements are made and things done, there will be ppl who test them in the light of the Scriptures.

That is the central issue.

No, the central issue is that this board has rules of conduct that are designed to prevent bigots from using this forum to make unsubstantiated charges and slanders against the religious beliefs of other Christians.  That anti-Catholic bigots are allowed to make such slanders as I posted from ex cathedra, and that he is not compelled to prove with evidence that they have merit, is exactly the issue we Catholics complain of.