Catholic

[Basherbelding]

I'm Roman Catholic and I believe in God does this make me a Christian? I'm just confused.

[larry2]

I'm Roman Catholic and I believe in God does this make me a Christian? I'm just confused.

If you have believed upon Jesus as your Savior, you are a Christian. I was also Catholic at one time. I believe I was just as saved then as I am now, but it takes reading the word of God to gain assurance of your salvation.

I just gave another Catholic these links to something I wrote concerning salvation. Click on and read them if you're interested, and I do hope they help you to understand.

Salvation with Security - Part One   

http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/theology/salvation-with-security-part-one/msg594337/#msg594337

Salvation with Security - Part Two

http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/theology/salvation-with-security-part-two/msg594338/#msg594338

[cezza57]

Catholic got some weird ideas.


Don't they communicate with dead people?..This is prohibited in the bible.

Also they have additional scripture too.

Excuse my ignorance, thats all I know

[chosenone]

All I can say is that catholics believe a lot of things that are not in the Bible, and they do a lot of things that we are told not to in the Bible. Thai is why I would never go to a Roman Catholic church.

   If you believe that Jesus is the son of God and that He alone died for you and came back from the dead, so that your sins can be forgiven then you are a christian. If you believe that He alone is our mediator between us and God then yes you are.

However I wouldnt recommend a Roman Catholic chuch, but if you go with your parents then there isnt a lot you can do till you are older.

[cezza57]

If you believe that Jesus is the son of God and that He alone died for you and came back from the dead, so that your sins can be forgiven then you are a christian. If you believe that He alone is our mediator between us and God then yes you are

..Mormons believe this too

[banished]

I can't believe that a member with 1463 posts is confused. This is from the Catholic Cateshism:

Baptism the foundation of communion among all Christians. Justified by faith in Baptism, [they] are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called Christians, and with good reason are accepted as brothers by the children of the Catholic Church."

[trifecta]

All I can say is that catholics believe a lot of things that are not in the Bible, and they do a lot of things that we are told not to in the Bible. Thai is why I would never go to a Roman Catholic church.

Protestants do too.   Do you worship with incense as Malachi 1:11 says?  Do you believe in the Real Presence of Communion as said in John 6?   

   If you believe that Jesus is the son of God and that He alone died for you and came back from the dead, so that your sins can be forgiven then you are a christian.

But are you saved?    What about working out our salvation with fear and trembling? 
Is being confident that you are saved really salvation itself?

However I wouldnt recommend a Roman Catholic chuch, but if you go with your parents then there isnt a lot you can do till you are older.

Dear Basher,

Don't fall for the Protestant belief that they know more about Scripture than Catholics do.
They don't.  They pick and choose Scriptures and by doing so say that they understand Scripture better than others do.

There is much to research and much to learn.  If you are interested, read Protestant writers, read Catholic ones, and by all means, read Orthodox ones.  If you want to know about the latter, I would be happy to provide some good sources.    Personally, I think the search is well worth doing.

God bless!

[ex cathedra]

  being a member of a roman catholic church  or lutheran church  or any other christian church does not save any one.
It is christ Jesus the second person of the trinity who is of one substance with The Father and the Holy Spirit HIS WORK
ALONE IS WHAT SAVES YOU.

if you truly  BELIEVE Jesus his work ALONE has  SAVED YOU BY HIS PERFECT LIFE LEAD IN YOUR SINFUL STEAD AND HIS INNOCENT DEATH on the cross was the full punishement from God for any and all sins you have committed or ever will comit.
and these things done by your Jesus who loves has already won you heaven and the right to be called Gods own child .
of course your christian and saved.

but now if you put some trust in your own merits or the popes merits or something else  rather than God the Son alone for your complete and free salvation . then of course your not saved

Satan wants you to not trust that your completly AND FREELY forgiven  by what Christ has already done for you
.

Dont be a judas who was not saved thinking how could God ever forgive me for whay i have done.

do you really think Jesus death for you was so small a price . That not every sin has been forgiven .
OF COURSE NOT .

[banished]

By gentleman's agreement Anti-Catholic and Catholic Bashing were to kept down in the Catholic Section.  Up here in the General Discussion Section people are being ministered to, and being converted to Christ.  The bigots with their bashing only cheapen the Christian Faith. Please remember that we are called to holiness.

[ex cathedra]

All I can say is that catholics believe a lot of things that are not in the Bible, and they do a lot of things that we are told not to in the Bible. Thai is why I would never go to a Roman Catholic church.

Protestants do too.   Do you worship with incense as Malachi 1:11 says?  Do you believe in the Real Presence of Communion as said in John 6?  

  If you believe that Jesus is the son of God and that He alone died for you and came back from the dead, so that your sins can be forgiven then you are a christian.

But are you saved?    What about working out our salvation with fear and trembling?  
Is being confident that you are saved really salvation itself?

However I wouldnt recommend a Roman Catholic chuch, but if you go with your parents then there isnt a lot you can do till you are older.

Dear Basher,

Don't fall for the Protestant belief that they know more about Scripture than Catholics do.
They don't.  They pick and choose Scriptures and by doing so say that they understand Scripture better than others do.

There is much to research and much to learn.  If you are interested, read Protestant writers, read Catholic ones, and by all means, read Orthodox ones.  If you want to know about the latter, I would be happy to provide some good sources.    Personally, I think the search is well worth doing.

God bless!

Why not read the full chapter of phillipians . Paul letter tells that with faith in jesus it is God who works in us to works out our salvation .

perhaps some protestant do know more than some catholics about the bible we know to examine what it says in context.
not taking verses out of their context.

phillipans 2:12
 12Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, 13for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose.

[ex cathedra]

By gentleman's agreement Anti-Catholic and Catholic Bashing were to kept down in the Catholic Section.  Up here in the General Discussion Section people are being ministered to, and being converted to Christ.  The bigots with their bashing only cheapen the Christian Faith. Please remember that we are called to holiness.

The pope is not a gentlemen he still is bashing catholics and is very anti-catholic.
he wants them to please him and reject that they are allread freely forgiven by what christ had done.
that old judas goat. betraying trust in Jesus .

Stand up Stand up for Jesus you solders of the cross.
http://www.hymntime.com/tch/htm/s/t/standufj.htm

[banished]

By gentleman's agreement Anti-Catholic and Catholic Bashing were to kept down in the Catholic Section.  Up here in the General Discussion Section people are being ministered to, and being converted to Christ.  The bigots with their bashing only cheapen the Christian Faith. Please remember that we are called to holiness.

The pope is not a gentlemen he still is bashing catholics and is very anti-catholic.
he wants them to please him and reject that they are allread freely forgiven by what christ had done.
that old judas goat. betraying trust in Jesus .

Stand up Stand up for Jesus you solders of the cross.
http://www.hymntime.com/tch/htm/s/t/standufj.htm

The Pope is down in the Catholic Section of the Forum, you can sink-your-teeth into him down there.

[ex cathedra]

By gentleman's agreement Anti-Catholic and Catholic Bashing were to kept down in the Catholic Section.  Up here in the General Discussion Section people are being ministered to, and being converted to Christ.  The bigots with their bashing only cheapen the Christian Faith. Please remember that we are called to holiness.

The pope is not a gentlemen he still is bashing catholics and is very anti-catholic.
he wants them to please him and reject that they are allread freely forgiven by what christ had done.
that old judas goat. betraying trust in Jesus .

Stand up Stand up for Jesus you solders of the cross.
http://www.hymntime.com/tch/htm/s/t/standufj.htm

The Pope is down in the Catholic Section of the Forum, you can sink-your-teeth into him down there.

The man is nothing its his doctrines of devils  that are the menace  they are anti- catholic
and they  can be found many places .

even here.



evil life does no great harm except to itself in the end ---but evil doctine is the worst  thing of all as it can lead a host of souls to hell.
Martin Luther.

[trifecta]

Why not read the full chapter of phillipians . Paul letter tells that with faith in jesus it is God who works in us to works out our salvation .


phillipans 2:12
 12Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, 13for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose.

I am quite familiar with verse 13, but it does not change the meaning of Phillipians 2:12b.
God does work in us (the term here is energy in Greek).   Yes, we cannot do it alone, we need the energy of God.  However, it does not negate what is said above it.   You want it to say forget about the fear and trembling, we have God in us, but that is not what the verse says.

perhaps some protestant do know more than some catholics about the bible we know to examine what it says in context.
not taking verses out of their context.

Since verse 13 did not negate verse 12, I was not taking it out of its context.

As for Protestants knowing more than Catholics, I think Protestants emphasize some verses more than Catholics (e.g., faith alone) and Catholics emphasize some verses more than Protestants (e.g., Matt 16:18- power of men to forgive sins).    On balance, the Catholic intrepretation makes more sense to me.   

[ex cathedra]

Why not read the full chapter of phillipians . Paul letter tells that with faith in jesus it is God who works in us to works out our salvation .


phillipans 2:12
 12Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, 13for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose.

I am quite familiar with verse 13, but it does not change the meaning of Phillipians 2:12b.
God does work in us (the term here is energy in Greek).   Yes, we cannot do it alone, we need the energy of God.  However, it does not negate what is said above it.   You want it to say forget about the fear and trembling, we have God in us, but that is not what the verse says.

perhaps some protestant do know more than some catholics about the bible we know to examine what it says in context.
not taking verses out of their context.

Since verse 13 did not negate verse 12, I was not taking it out of its context.

As for Protestants knowing more than Catholics, I think Protestants emphasize some verses more than Catholics (e.g., faith alone) and Catholics emphasize some verses more than Protestants (e.g., Matt 16:18- power of men to forgive sins).    On balance, the Catholic intrepretation makes more sense to me.   

Why not read the full chapter of phillipians . Paul letter tells that with faith in jesus it is God who works in us to works out our salvation .


phillipans 2:12
 12Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, 13for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose.

I am quite familiar with verse 13, but it does not change the meaning of Phillipians 2:12b.
God does work in us (the term here is energy in Greek).   Yes, we cannot do it alone, we need the energy of God.  However, it does not negate what is said above it.   You want it to say forget about the fear and trembling, we have God in us, but that is not what the verse says.

perhaps some protestant do know more than some catholics about the bible we know to examine what it says in context.
not taking verses out of their context.

Since verse 13 did not negate verse 12, I was not taking it out of its context.

As for Protestants knowing more than Catholics, I think Protestants emphasize some verses more than Catholics (e.g., faith alone) and Catholics emphasize some verses more than Protestants (e.g., Matt 16:18- power of men to forgive sins).    On balance, the Catholic intrepretation makes more sense to me.   

the verse has already been translated from the greek and as it states God gives us more than just the energy to do it it is him who does it. though we may still have fear and trembling.