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Eve's Offspring & Mary's
« on: Wed Nov 17, 2021 - 09:34:21 »
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Gen 3:15 . . And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers. He will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.

Most everyone on both sides of the aisle agree that's a prophesy referring to Christ. Now, the question we must resolve is the origin of Eve's offspring.

Her entire body was constructed with material taken from Adam's body, which of course had to include her body's ovaries. So then any, and all, offspring produced by Eve's ovaries have Adam to thank for their existence.

Ergo: even if Eve's offspring were all virgin-conceived they would still be Adam's offspring because it was from his body's flesh and blood that Eve's body obtained its flesh and blood.

There exists a pretty good number of sincere Christians out there who honestly believe that Jesus' virgin conception disconnected him from Adam. But unless someone can prove, without a hint of sensible doubt, that Mary's flesh and blood did not descend from Eve's flesh and blood, then we must conclude that baby Jesus' flesh and blood descended from Eve's; and if from Eve's, then from Adam's, and if from Adam's, then from the very dust that God used to construct the first Man in the book of Genesis.
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Re: Eve's Offspring & Mary's
« Reply #1 on: Thu Nov 18, 2021 - 13:05:07 »
You're taking things way too literally.   ::frown::

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Re: Eve's Offspring & Mary's
« Reply #2 on: Thu Nov 18, 2021 - 19:33:30 »
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Rev 22:16 . . I am the offspring of David

The Greek word translated "offspring" is genos (ghen'-os) which basically refers to kin, viz: one's relatives.

Christ's kinship with David is quite a bit more specific in Rom 1:1-3 where it says:

"Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh"

The Greek word translated "seed" in that passage is sperma (sper'-mah) which is a mite ambiguous because it can refer to spiritual progeny as well as to biological progeny; for example:

Gal 3:29 . . If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed.

That seed is obviously spiritual progeny; whereas David's is biological because it's "according to the flesh" i.e. his physical human body.

Seeing as Jesus' dad Joseph played no role in his son's conception, and his wife was a virgin at the time, then Jesus' physical connection to David defaults thru his mother, i.e. Mary was related to David; which places her baby in David's tribe; the tribe of Judah. (Heb 7:14) 

This fact may be somewhat insignificant to most Gentiles-- other than their interest in Christ's connection to Abraham's promises --but Jesus' physical connection to David is extremely important to the Jews because in order to validate Jesus' right to rule over the land of Israel, he absolutely must be biologically situated in the Davidic dynasty: no getting around it. (2Sam 7:8 17 and Ps 89:3-4)


FAQ: From whence did baby Jesus obtain a Y chromosome for his male gender?

A: In the beginning, God constructed Eve's entire body with some material taken from Adam's body, so I'd imagine it would be no more difficult for God to construct a teensy little Y chromosome for baby Jesus with some material taken from Mary's body.

The beauty of it is that a Y chromosome constructed with material taken from Mary's body would not be an alien substance created ex nihilo; but would be 100% natural, and easily traceable all the way back to Eve, and from thence to the very dust that was used to construct Adam's body.

I can't prove any of this of course, but nevertheless I sincerely believe that what I suggest herein actually took place when the power of the Most High overshadowed Jesus' mom per Luke 1:35; and if my suggestion is true, then little Jesus was thoroughly a Jew from top to bottom-- biologically descended from not only David, but also Adam, the Man that God created in the book of Genesis.

Heb 2:17 . . He had to be made like his brethren in every way


NOTE: Most Christians will readily attest that Jesus Christ is fully God and fully Man; while in reality a number of them believe he was some sort of divine hominid implanted in Mary's uterus; i.e. they honestly believe Jesus' mom was his surrogate mother rather than his biological mother.
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