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St. Therese the little Flower
« on: June 24, 2012, 08:18:20 AM »
I personally did not understand why so many catholics were so inspired by the humble Carmelite sister, St. Therese of Lisieux.  She didnt really "do" anything.  I wasnt very fond of her book.  
There was nothing wrong with it, I just didnt think it was anything special at all.

Now I have come to realize the importance of the message that we can all be great Saints without giving eloquent sermons, making great sacrifices, doing great deeds, or working signs and wonders.

Rather, Greatness lies in Charity.
 An unknown, unremarkable, humble person who is faithful to their state in life can be just as much a Hero as the person who travels the earth preaching the Gospel, casting out demons, healing the sick, and/or enduring the red crown of martyrdom.

St. Therese the little flower was proclaimed the greatest Saint of Modern times, Doctor of the Church, and the Patron of missions.
She did nothing extraordinary, remained within the walls of her convent, wasnt particularly eloquent, brilliant, or talented, and died at the age of 24.

Many (especially worldly people) would say she accomplished nothing.

Living a hidden, simple life of prayer, she was gifted with great intimacy with God. Through sickness and dark nights of doubt and fear, she remained faithful to God, rooted in His merciful love.

 Her last words were the story of her life: "My God, I love You!"

"My mission - to make God loved - will begin after my death," she said. "I will spend my heaven doing good on earth.

"There is one ONLY THING to do here below: to love Jesus, to bring souls to Him so that He may be loved. Let us seize with jealous care every least opportunity of self sacrifice. Let us refuse Him nothing - He does so want our love!"

"Love!...that is what I ask...I know but one thing now - to love Thee, O Jesus! Glorious deeds are not for me, I cannot preach the Gospel, shed my blood...what does it matter? My brothers toil instead of me, and I, the little child, I keep quite close to the royal throne"

"Let us love, since our heart is made for nothing else"

"There exists but one Being capable of comprehending love; it is Jesus; He alone can give us back infinitely more than we shall ever give to him."

 "I know that I do not merit even to enter with the Holy Souls into that place of expiation, but I know too that the fire of Love is more sanctifying than the fire of Purgatory"

"To offer oneself as a victim to Divine Love is not to offer oneself to sweetness - to consolation; but to every anguish, every bitterness, for Love lives only by sacrifice; and the more a soul wills to be surrendered to Love, the more must she be surrendered to suffering."

"Charity gave me the key to my vocation.
I understood that the Church being a body composed of different members, the most essential, the most noble of all the organs would not be wanting to her; I understood that the Church has a heart and that this heart is burning with love;
that it is love alone which makes the members work, that if love were to die away, apostles would no longer preach the Gospel, martyrs would refuse to shed their blood.
I understood that love comprises all vocations, that love is everything, that it embraces all times and all places because it is eternal!"

"At the close of life's evening I shall appear before Thee with empty hands, for I ask not, Lord, that Thou wouldst count my works...All our justice is tarnished in Thy sight. It is therefore my desire to be clothed with Thine own Justice..."

"That I may live in one Act of perfect Love, I offer myself as a victim of holocaust to thy merciful love, imploring Thee to consume me without ceasing, and to let the tide of infinite tenderness pent up in Thee, overflow into my soul, that so I may become a very martyr of Thy Love, O my God!
May this martyrdom, having first prepared me to appear before Thee, break life's thread at last, and may my soul take its flight, unretarded, into the eternal embrace of Thy Merciful Love.
I desire, O Well-Beloved, at every heartbeat to renew this Oblation an infinite number of times, till the shadows retire (Cant. 4:6) and I can tell Thee my love eternally face to face!"


she abandoned herself to Jesus and her life became a continual acceptance of the will of the Lord.

She described her life as a "little way of spiritual childhood."

She lived each day with an unshakable confidence in God's love.

 "What matters in life," she wrote, "is not great deeds, but great love."

 Therese lived and taught a spirituality of attending to everyone and everything well and with love.

Therese's spirituality is of doing the ordinary, with extraordinary love.  

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St. Therese the little Flower
« on: June 24, 2012, 08:18:20 AM »

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Re: St. Therese the little Flower
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2012, 10:42:20 AM »
Now why did you bring her up? Pointing out another holy soul who consecrated herself to God is only going to bring about a controversy. The next thing  you're  probably going to bring up the story of Sister Faustina and the Divine Mercy. Have you no shame?  ::giggle::

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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2012, 10:59:25 AM »
Actaully it's funny that you say that, I was planning on starting a thread with my favorite quotes from St. Faustina's Diary.
Especially what our Lord told her.

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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2012, 11:03:40 AM »
Actaully it's funny that you say that, I was planning on starting a thread with my favorite quotes from St. Faustina's Diary.
Especially what our Lord told her.


I love the message of Divine Mercy. ( As I'm gonna need a great deal of it)

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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2012, 11:20:27 AM »
Just wondering, does God tell us to make human beings into saints?  Or does He tell us in the Bible that all believers are saints? Does The Bible say that God is no respector of persons? Or does He say that some are more 'spiritual' than others?
In Him I live and move and have my being.

My determined purpose is that I may know Him - that I may progressively become more deeply and intimately acquainted with Him, perceiving and recognizing and understanding the wonders of His Person more strongly and more clearly."

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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2012, 11:37:33 AM »
Just wondering, does God tell us to make human beings into saints?  Or does He tell us in the Bible that all believers are saints? Does The Bible say that God is no respector of persons? Or does He say that some are more 'spiritual' than others?


Who makes people into saints?
"For they needs must seek some support,  since they have fallen from the foundation of the Apostles and have no settled mind of their own, and if they can find none, then they malign the fathers. But no one will believe them any more even if they make efforts to libel them, for their heresy is condemned on all hands." St. Athanasius of Alexandria

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« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2012, 11:44:15 AM »
Does God tell us to make human beings into Saints?
God makes Saints, we dont.

The Church says that all who are saved are Saints.
So if you and I make it to heaven, we are Saints.

does He say that some are more 'spiritual' than others?
Yes I would say those who are saved are more Spiritual than those who are not.

The Angel told Mary that she has found favor with God, that she was full of Grace, Elizabeth said "Who am I that the Mother of my Lord should visit me",  Luke 1 says all generations will call her blessed.

The Bible says no prophet was greater than John the Baptist.
I think it is very clear that some people in Scripture are more Spiritual than others

Are all believers Saints?
No, not at all.
Many believers will go to Hell.  These verses state

1.Matthew 7:19-23 - “Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

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« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2012, 02:01:18 PM »
Just wondering, does God tell us to make human beings into saints?  Or does He tell us in the Bible that all believers are saints? Does The Bible say that God is no respector of persons? Or does He say that some are more 'spiritual' than others?


Who makes people into saints?

The blood of Jesus, which cleanses us from sin.

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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2012, 02:25:53 PM »
Just wondering, does God tell us to make human beings into saints?  Or does He tell us in the Bible that all believers are saints? Does The Bible say that God is no respector of persons? Or does He say that some are more 'spiritual' than others?
 God
From what I understand they're coming to us on their own.

By the way you never provided a verse that states that your monarch had authority to usurp that of St. Peter's successor.
  
 
  
 
people into saints?

The blood of Jesus, which cleanses us from sin.

  Amen. God through Paul, says that all who are His children are Saints.

 I am not sure what you are referring to about the monarch.  God is the head of my church, I never mentioned the queen!
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In Him I live and move and have my being.

My determined purpose is that I may know Him - that I may progressively become more deeply and intimately acquainted with Him, perceiving and recognizing and understanding the wonders of His Person more strongly and more clearly."

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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2012, 02:49:58 PM »
The thing is that no one person is more important or 'special' to God than anyone else. He is no respector of persons. He does not love anyone of His children more than any other. Its only man who has made these degrees or levels of 'holiness,' not God.   
In Him I live and move and have my being.

My determined purpose is that I may know Him - that I may progressively become more deeply and intimately acquainted with Him, perceiving and recognizing and understanding the wonders of His Person more strongly and more clearly."

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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2012, 09:51:27 PM »
In Luke one the Angel say "Mary, do not be afraid, you have found favor with God"
What does the word favor mean to you?
In the Old Testament the Lord says "Jacob I loved, Esau I hated".

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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2012, 10:15:40 PM »
Just wondering, does God tell us to make human beings into saints?  Or does He tell us in the Bible that all believers are saints? Does The Bible say that God is no respector of persons? Or does He say that some are more 'spiritual' than others?

Yes, some people are more spiritual than others. Don't you believe that?  I dare to say that even in your own congregation some are more spiritual than others.

We believe that some people do receive some messages from God that others don't. We are not required to believe in these messages from Our Lord, but many of them have the ring of truth to them and can help the faithful in their walk with God.

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« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2012, 10:41:27 PM »
God doesn't play favourites with people in general, but He does favour His own people, and those who seek His wisdom.

Proverbs 8:35
For whoever finds me finds life and receives favor from the LORD.




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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2012, 08:15:30 AM »
Just wondering, does God tell us to make human beings into saints?  Or does He tell us in the Bible that all believers are saints? Does The Bible say that God is no respector of persons? Or does He say that some are more 'spiritual' than others?


Who makes people into saints?

The blood of Jesus, which cleanses us from sin.

It was sarcasm.

As in why would Chosenone ask a question that has nothing to do with the OP or Catholic practice.
"For they needs must seek some support,  since they have fallen from the foundation of the Apostles and have no settled mind of their own, and if they can find none, then they malign the fathers. But no one will believe them any more even if they make efforts to libel them, for their heresy is condemned on all hands." St. Athanasius of Alexandria

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« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2012, 09:28:38 AM »
Just wondering, does God tell us to make human beings into saints?  Or does He tell us in the Bible that all believers are saints? Does The Bible say that God is no respector of persons? Or does He say that some are more 'spiritual' than others?
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From what I understand they're coming to us on their own.

By the way you never provided a verse that states that your monarch had authority to usurp that of St. Peter's successor.
  
 
  
 
people into saints?

The blood of Jesus, which cleanses us from sin.

  Amen. God through Paul, says that all who are His children are Saints.

 I am not sure what you are referring to about the monarch.  God is the head of my church, I never mentioned the queen!

I don't know how but you actually quoted a response of mine from an e turkey separate thread. That response was given to Lily not you.
"For they needs must seek some support,  since they have fallen from the foundation of the Apostles and have no settled mind of their own, and if they can find none, then they malign the fathers. But no one will believe them any more even if they make efforts to libel them, for their heresy is condemned on all hands." St. Athanasius of Alexandria