I read the last post and its complicated yet I don't think is that hard to see the catholic double talk
This is the offical catholic affirmation
This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and His Church:
"Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience — those too may achieve eternal salvation" (Second Vatican Council, Lumen Gentium, 16).
The statement no salvation outside the church is a true statement, but when Catholics refer to the church they refer only those who are members of the catholic church and recognizes only papal authority. Now they say those outside the church can be saved if they sincerely follow after Christ. How can one sincerely follow after Christ and not be of his church. It is clear that we are saved and of the church by faith. I guess I have to be ignorant but this does not compute. It is simply not scrpitural