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John Paul II was the Antichrist.

Definition of Antichrist:

1.  Pope St. Pius X, E Supremi Apostolatus, Oct. 4, 1903: “While, on the other hand, and this according to the same apostle is the distinguishing mark of Antichrist, man has with infinite temerity put himself in the place of God.”

2.  1 John 2:22 – “Who is a liar, but he who denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, who denieth the Father, and the Son.”

3.  1 John 4:2-3 – “Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, is of God: And every spirit that dissolveth Jesus is not of God: and this is Antichrist, of whom you have heard that he cometh...”

Incredible evidence that John Paul II was the antichrist and just about no one knew it.  They were deceived.

2 Corinthinians 11:13-15  For such false apostles [bishops] are deceitful workmen, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.  And no wonder: for Satan himself transformeth himself into an angel of lightTherefore it is no great thing if his ministers be transformed as the ministers of justice, whose end shall be according to their works.

St. Paul says that Jesus is an Apostle.

Hebrews 3:1 Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly vocation, consider the apostle and high priest of our confession, Jesus:

St. Peter says that Jesus is a bishop and a shepherd.

1 Peter 2:24-25  Who his own self bore our sins in his body upon the tree: that we, being dead to sins, should live to justice: by whose stripes you were healed.  For you were as sheep going astray; but you are now converted to the shepherd and bishop of your souls.

Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs [bishops] and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect.

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man cheat you by philosophy, and vain deceit; according to the tradition of men, according to the elements of the world, and not according to Christ:

St. Jude and St. John gives a prophecy about these men of the vatican II sect.  St. Jude reveals their sexual perversion.

Jude 1:4,7-8  For certain men are secretly entered in, (who were written of long ago unto this judgment,) ungodly men, turning the grace of our Lord God into riotousness, and denying the only sovereign Ruler, and our Lord Jesus Christ.As Sodom and Gomorrha, and the neighbouring cities, in like manner, having given themselves to fornication, and going after other flesh, … In like manner these men also defile the flesh, …

John 10:1-2 [1] Amen, amen I say to you: He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up another way, the same is a thief and a robber. [2] But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.

Jesus Christ is High priest according to the order of Melchizedek and so Jesus is warning in the end times, that there will be false bishops who will show great signs and wonders to deceive catholics.  And keep everyone else in their false religion.  This is why the antipopes of the vatican II sect, say not to proselytize anyone, leave them as they are, which in truth, means they are spiritually dead!!  This is what the devil would want!

John Paul II taught that every man is God, which is the Nestorian heresy.  Nestorius, who was the Archbishop of Constantinople in 428 who dissolved Jesus into two persons, by his false teachings.  Jesus Christ is one person, with two natures, Divine and Human.  John Paul II's teachings dissolved Jesus into every man!   Arius was also a bishop, i.e. Arian heresy.

Teaching of the true Catholic church on the person and nature of Jesus Christ:

Pope St. Leo the Great, Council of Chalcedon, 451, ex cathedra: “... we all with one voice teach the confession of one and same Son, our Lord Jesus Christ: the same perfect in divinity and perfect in humanity, the same truly God and truly man, of a rational soul and a body... one and same Christ... a single person and subsistent being; He is not parted or divided into two persons, but is one and the same only-begotten Son, God, Word, Lord Jesus Christ...”

Pope Vigilius, Second Council of Constantinople, 553: “The holy synod of Ephesus... has pronounced sentence against the heresy of Nestorius... and all those who might later... adopt the same opinions as he held... They express these falsehoods against the true dogmas of the Church, OFFERING WORSHIP TO TWO SONS, trying to divide that which cannot be divided, AND INTRODUCING TO BOTH HEAVEN AND EARTH THE OFFENCE OF THE WORSHIP OF MAN. But the sacred band of heavenly spirits worship along with us only one Lord Jesus Christ.”

Antipope John Paul II dissolved Jesus into every man. 

Antipope John paul II heresies:

Antipope John Paul II, Redemptor Hominis #13, March 4, 1979: “... by his Incarnation, he, the Son of God, in a certain way united himself with EACH MAN.”

Antipope John Paul II, Homily, July 2, 1986: “... the Son of God, incarnate in the womb of the Virgin Mary, ‘has in a certain way united himself with each man.’”

Antipope John Paul II, Homily, April 8, 1987: “... by his incarnation the Son of God has united himself in a certain way with EACH PERSON.”

Antipope John Paul II, Letter to Families (# 2): “... the Son of God, who in the Incarnation ‘united himself in some sense with every man.’”

Antipope John Paul II outrageously says that Christmas is the feast of man, instead of Jesus Christ.

Antipope John Paul II, Urbi et Orbi, Dec. 25, 1978:  1. “I am addressing this message to every human being, to man in his humanityChristmas is the feast of man.”  https://w2.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/messages/urbi/documents/hf_jp-ii_mes_19781225_urbi.html

Antipope John Paul II's teachings were very subtle and from the pit of hell.

Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtle than any of the beasts of the earth which the Lord God had made.

Pope Pius VI wrote a Papal edict about the ambiguity [subtlety] of the writings of heretics.  Pope Pius VI,  Bull “Auctorem fidei,” August 28, 1794, condemning the Synod of Pistoia.
 
Please remember that Judas Iscariot was also a bishop, who betrayed and killed Jesus.

Acts 1:16-17, 20  Men, brethren, the scripture must needs be fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost spoke before by the mouth of David concerning Judas, who was the leader of them that apprehended Jesus:  Who was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry. … And his bishopric let another take.

www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/45_antichristcode.pdf         Visit vaticancatholic.com

"Saint" John Paul II Exposed!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODV1SV83nxA

John Paul II was the Antichrist
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"St." John Paul II's Heresies
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Re: The Antichrist Has Come And Gone And Just About No One Noticed
« Reply #1 on: Sat Feb 24, 2018 - 04:43:03 »
Definition of Antichrist: 1.  Pope St. Pius X, E Supremi Apostolatus, Oct. 4, 1903: “While, on the other hand, and this according to the same apostle is the distinguishing mark of Antichrist, man has with infinite temerity put himself in the place of God.”

2.  1 John 2:22 – “Who is a liar, but he who denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is an antichrist, who denieth the Father, and the Son.”

3.  1 John 4:2-3 – “Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, is of God: And every spirit that dissolveth Jesus is not of God: and this is Antichrist, of whom you have heard that he cometh...”
Isaias, So far you are 100% correct in your definiton of what is an antichrist. This spirit did not begin with John Paul II, but has been in this world since Cain who was of that wicked one and slew his brother whose deeds were righteous, whose worship was according to the truth and which was ordained of God, but not so with Cain.
Quote from: Isaias Yesterday at 22:18:45
Incredible evidence that John Paul II was the antichrist and just about no one knew it.  They were deceived.
Isaias all of the very elect did notice, but they also knew that men like Billy Graham and multitudes of others (including ALL POPES, and propersity preachers, etc.) had that very same spirit that Daniel, Jesus, Paul and John all prophesied that should come saying "that Jesus was the Christ"~BUT, SO sad and deceitfully  it is a ANOTHER JESUS other than the Jesus Paul taught. Oh, we KNEW, just those following them did not and still most do not know even until this very day.
Quote from: Isaias Yesterday at 22:18:45
2 Corinthinians 11:13-15  For such false apostles [bishops] are deceitful workmen, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.  And no wonder: for Satan himself transformeth himself into an angel of light.  Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers be transformed as the ministers of justice, whose end shall be according to their works.

St. Paul says that Jesus is an Apostle.

Hebrews 3:1 Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly vocation, consider the apostle and high priest of our confession, Jesus:

St. Peter says that Jesus is a bishop and a shepherd.
Agreed
Quote from: Isaias Yesterday at 22:18:45
1 Peter 2:24-25  Who his own self bore our sins in his body upon the tree: that we, being dead to sins, should live to justice: by whose stripes you were healed.  For you were as sheep going astray; but you are now converted to the shepherd and bishop of your souls.

Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs [bishops] and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect.

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man cheat you by philosophy, and vain deceit; according to the tradition of men, according to the elements of the world, and not according to Christ:
Excellent scriptures revealing false prophets, the spirit of antichrist that rules in God's outward temple on earth declaring THEMSELVES that they are God by what they say and the manner in which they live! And the WORLD loves them and honors them~while they killed God's Son...that should tell us something! Selah
Quote from:  Isaias Yesterday at 22:18:45
St. Jude and St. John gives a prophecy about these men of the vatican II sect.  St. Jude reveals their sexual perversion.
Isaias, it just NOT ONLY LIMITED there but it is true with all false prophets. Peter said these words concerning the spirit of anitchrist:
Quote from: the apostle Peter
2nd Peter 2:10-19~"But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities. Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord. But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you; Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children: Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet. These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.  For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage."
The spirit of antichrist is in MULTITUDES places of religion not just LIMITED to one sect~Benny Hinn is just as much of the spirit of antichrist as any Pope that has ever lived based on God's definition of antichrist, the man of sin. They are feasting WITH and AMONG the very elect.

Billy Grahan just died this past week not very far from where I lived an hour away. He has preached to enough people that could almost fill this world, yet his message was NOT Paul's even though the name of Jesus flowed from his lips like water off of a duck's back. I'm reminded of Jesus' words:
Quote from: Jesus
Matthew 24:4,5~"And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
They INDEED preached that Jesus IS the Christ, but it is NOT the SAME Jesus preached by the scriptures as Paul warned us from 2nd Corinthians 11 where he said these words:
Quote from: Paul
2nd Corinthians 11:3,4~"But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
The RCC/EOC and a host of others preach another Jesus other than the Jesus preached by the apostle Paul~making them all having an evil spirit of antichrist/man of sin~an abomination that God WILL make desolate.
Quote from: Isaias Yesterday at 22:18:45
Teaching of the true Catholic church on the person and nature of Jesus Christ:

Pope St. Leo the Great, Council of Chalcedon, 451, ex cathedra: “... we all with one voice teach the confession of one and same Son, our Lord Jesus Christ: the same perfect in divinity and perfect in humanity, the same truly God and truly man, of a rational soul and a body... one and same Christ... a single person and subsistent being; He is not parted or divided into two persons, but is one and the same only-begotten Son, God, Word, Lord Jesus Christ...”

Pope Vigilius, Second Council of Constantinople, 553: “The holy synod of Ephesus... has pronounced sentence against the heresy of Nestorius... and all those who might later... adopt the same opinions as he held... They express these falsehoods against the true dogmas of the Church, OFFERING WORSHIP TO TWO SONS, trying to divide that which cannot be divided, AND INTRODUCING TO BOTH HEAVEN AND EARTH THE OFFENCE OF THE WORSHIP OF MAN. But the sacred band of heavenly spirits worship along with us only one Lord Jesus Christ.”
You BOTH are wrong concerning Jesus' Sonship~come here and let us talk: http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/theology/who-is-jesus-christ-98847/

I'll stop, you do not have to convince me that one or two Popes are heretics for I believe all were~even though many have been converted from that system that is against the teachings of the word of God, one of the greatest of all prophets, dear old Martin Luther...I think you know him~a mighty warrior for God and his truths.
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Re: The Antichrist Has Come And Gone And Just About No One Noticed
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« Reply #2 on: Sat Feb 24, 2018 - 09:29:37 »
Antipope John paul II heresies:

Antipope John Paul II, Redemptor Hominis #13, March 4, 1979: “... by his Incarnation, he, the Son of God, in a certain way united himself with EACH MAN.”


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Isaias, and anyone rational who is reading this:

 The full quotation is:
For, by his Incarnation, he, the son of God, in a certain way united himself with each man. He worked with human hands, he thought with a human mind. He acted with a human will, and with a human heart he loved. Born of the Virgin Mary, he has truly been made one of us, like to us in all things except sin"
47, he, the Redeemer of man.
 
Redemptor Hominis section 8

The 47 is a footnote which shows that JPII was quoting from the Vatican II document Gaudium et Spes para 22
For by His incarnation the Son of God has united Himself in some fashion with every man. He worked with human hands, He thought with a human mind, acted by human choice and loved with a human heart. Born of the Virgin Mary, He has truly been made one of us, like us in all things except sin.

Vatican II was an Ecumenical Council which met between 1962 and 1965. Gaudium et Spes was one of the last documents to be promulgated. It was agreed on a vote of 2,307 to 75 of the bishops attending.

If you claim that Pope John Paul's words are heresy then you are also saying that the overwhelming number of the bishops were also heretics.

You probably do say that but you are just being ridiculous.

[waits for the the " faithful remnant" ploy to be trotted out yet again]

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Re: The Antichrist Has Come And Gone And Just About No One Noticed
« Reply #3 on: Sat Feb 24, 2018 - 12:00:33 »
(I've cut out the dross and duplication to save server space)

Isaias, and anyone rational who is reading this:

 The full quotation is:
For, by his Incarnation, he, the son of God, in a certain way united himself with each man. He worked with human hands, he thought with a human mind. He acted with a human will, and with a human heart he loved. Born of the Virgin Mary, he has truly been made one of us, like to us in all things except sin"
47, he, the Redeemer of man.
 
Redemptor Hominis section 8

The 47 is a footnote which shows that JPII was quoting from the Vatican II document Gaudium et Spes para 22
For by His incarnation the Son of God has united Himself in some fashion with every man. He worked with human hands, He thought with a human mind, acted by human choice and loved with a human heart. Born of the Virgin Mary, He has truly been made one of us, like us in all things except sin.

Vatican II was an Ecumenical Council which met between 1962 and 1965. Gaudium et Spes was one of the last documents to be promulgated. It was agreed on a vote of 2,307 to 75 of the bishops attending.

If you claim that Pope John Paul's words are heresy then you are also saying that the overwhelming number of the bishops were also heretics.

You probably do say that but you are just being ridiculous.

[waits for the the " faithful remnant" ploy to be trotted out yet again]

Do you know what is really funny, seriously, when you say the faithful remnant ploy to be proffered again, its like saying "wait, watch, he is going to tell the truth again".  Lol!  Because it is the truth.  Don't you realize that you can't say anything substantive because you cannot refute the truth. 

Winsome, you think that I am your enemy but I am not, I'm trying to be as a friend.  And trying to help you to see the subtle language of these faithless men who occupy the Catholic buildings all over the world.  Heretics cannot be members or the heads of the Catholic church.  Do you know that you actually believe that the truth can be changed!?  Let me tell you something; "if the truth can be changed, then it was never true to begin with!!!"

A Cardinal and a Saint, St. Robert Bellarmine, clearly stated that a heretic is ipso facto, deposed, excommunicated, outside the Catholic church.  And a one who is not a member, cannot be the head.

St. Robert Bellarmine, De Romano Pontifice, II, 30: “For, in the first place, it is proven with arguments from authority and from reason that the manifest heretic is ‘ipso facto’ deposed. The argument from authority is based on St. Paul (Titus 3:10), who orders that the heretic be avoided after two warnings, that is, after showing himself to be manifestly obstinate – which means before any excommunication or judicial sentence. And this is what St. Jerome writes, adding that the other sinners are excluded from the Church by sentence of excommunication, but the heretics exile themselves and separate themselves by their own act from the body of Christ.”

St. Robert Bellarmine, De Romano Pontifice, II, 30: “This principle is most certain. The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope, as Cajetan himself admits (ib. c. 26). The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member; now he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian (lib. 4, epist. 2), St. Athanasius (Scr. 2 cont. Arian.), St. Augustine (lib. De great. Christ. Cap. 20), St. Jerome (contra Lucifer.) and others; therefore the manifest heretic cannot be Pope.

There is something extremely big that you hang on to and you won't let go and that is, you think that the majority is right and the tiny minority is wrong.  You just cannot get it out of your head that the majority are wrong and are liars in the balance, as Psalms clearly articulates.  And I know that you say in your head, "How can so many people be wrong, but this principle is true according to God.

Psalms 115:11  I said in my excess: Every man is a liar.

Psalms 61:10 But vain are the sons of men, the sons of men are liars in the balances: that by vanity they may together deceive.

Wisdom 13:1 But all men are vain, in whom there is not the knowledge of God:

The vast majority of the Judeans in the old testament, went to hell also.

God has clearly demonstrated this principle.  How can you deny history??  Do you deny the destruction of the world the first time, eight people saved.  Josue and Caleb, only two of the first generation out of Eygpt, go into the promised Land etc.  He always saves a remnant, those who obeyed, like Noe, like Josue and Caleb etc.  Lets move to the new testament.

For instance, in the 4th century, during the time of Basil, Hilary and Athanasius there was the Arian crisis i.e. Arian heresy.  Basically the poison, the Arian heresy, was very prevalent for almost 100 years but extremely wicked and heated for the first part of the 4th century.  The Arian heresy, is the denial of Jesus' consubstantiality with the Father.  And during this time, in the east and the west, just about every bishop excepted this heresy.  St. Basil and St. Hilary and St. Athanasius and Liberius and Ossius, St. Gregory Nazianz, were about the only ones to adhere to the truth and retain their See [Office]. 

Fr. William Jurgens: “At one point in the Church’s history, only a few years before Gregory’s [Nazianz] present preaching (+380 A.D.), perhaps the number of Catholic bishops in possession of sees, as opposed to Arian bishops in possession of sees, was no greater than something between 1% and 3% of the total. Had doctrine been determined by popularity, today we should all be deniers of Christ and opponents of the Spirit.”  (W.A. Jurgens, The Faith of the Early Fathers, Vol. 2, p. 39.)

Fr. William Jurgens: “In the time of the Emperor Valens (4th century), Basil was virtually the only orthodox Bishop in all the East who succeeded in retaining charge of his seeIf it has no other importance for modern man, a knowledge of the history of Arianism should demonstrate at least that the Catholic Church takes no account of popularity and numbers in shaping and maintaining doctrine: else, we should long since have had to abandon Basil and Hilary and Athanasius and Liberius and Ossius and call ourselves after Arius.”   (The Faith of the Early Fathers, Vol. 2, p. 3.)

St. Ambrose (+382): “There are not enough hours in the day for me to recite even the names of all the various sects of heretics.” (The Faith of the Early Fathers, Vol. 2, p. 158)

St. Gregory Nazianz (+380): “Where are they who revile us for our poverty and pride themselves in their riches?  They who define the Church by numbers and scorn the little flock?” (“Against the Arians,” The Faith of the Early Fathers, Vol. 2, p. 33)
(The Faith of the Early Fathers, Vol. 2, p. 3.)

If something this bad can happen in the 4th century, why do you have a problem with and deny what Jesus said about the end times.  Jesus even said that it will be so bad that when He comes back, will He even find any Catholic Faith left on Earth.

Luke 18:8  I say to you, that he will quickly revenge them. But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth?

Jesus was specific about a group of men, at a particular time, the end times just before He comes back, not through out history concerning the Antichrist.  These faithless men, will do such signs and wonders, that if it were possible even the elect would be deceived.  And I provided the truth, how few are saved, therefore, the elect will be few, not many!  Just like the first destruction of the world. 

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Do you know what is really funny, seriously, when you say the faithful remnant ploy to be proffered again, its like saying "wait, watch, he is going to tell the truth again".  Lol!  Because it is the truth.  Don't you realize that you can't say anything substantive because you cannot refute the truth. 

Winsome, you think that I am your enemy but I am not, I'm trying to be as a friend.  And trying to help you to see the subtle language of these faithless men who occupy the Catholic buildings all over the world.  Heretics cannot be members or the heads of the Catholic church.  Do you know that you actually believe that the truth can be changed!?  Let me tell you something; "if the truth can be changed, then it was never true to begin with!!!"

A Cardinal and a Saint, St. Robert Bellarmine, clearly stated that a heretic is ipso facto, deposed, excommunicated, outside the Catholic church.  And a one who is not a member, cannot be the head.

St. Robert Bellarmine, De Romano Pontifice, II, 30: “For, in the first place, it is proven with arguments from authority and from reason that the manifest heretic is ‘ipso facto’ deposed. The argument from authority is based on St. Paul (Titus 3:10), who orders that the heretic be avoided after two warnings, that is, after showing himself to be manifestly obstinate – which means before any excommunication or judicial sentence. And this is what St. Jerome writes, adding that the other sinners are excluded from the Church by sentence of excommunication, but the heretics exile themselves and separate themselves by their own act from the body of Christ.”

St. Robert Bellarmine, De Romano Pontifice, II, 30: “This principle is most certain. The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope, as Cajetan himself admits (ib. c. 26). The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member; now he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian (lib. 4, epist. 2), St. Athanasius (Scr. 2 cont. Arian.), St. Augustine (lib. De great. Christ. Cap. 20), St. Jerome (contra Lucifer.) and others; therefore the manifest heretic cannot be Pope.

There is something extremely big that you hang on to and you won't let go and that is, you think that the majority is right and the tiny minority is wrong.  You just cannot get it out of your head that the majority are wrong and are liars in the balance, as Psalms clearly articulates.  And I know that you say in your head, "How can so many people be wrong, but this principle is true according to God.

Psalms 115:11  I said in my excess: Every man is a liar.

Psalms 61:10 But vain are the sons of men, the sons of men are liars in the balances: that by vanity they may together deceive.

Wisdom 13:1 But all men are vain, in whom there is not the knowledge of God:

The vast majority of the Judeans in the old testament, went to hell also.

God has clearly demonstrated this principle.  How can you deny history??  Do you deny the destruction of the world the first time, eight people saved.  Josue and Caleb, only two of the first generation out of Eygpt, go into the promised Land etc.  He always saves a remnant, those who obeyed, like Noe, like Josue and Caleb etc.  Lets move to the new testament.

For instance, in the 4th century, during the time of Basil, Hilary and Athanasius there was the Arian crisis i.e. Arian heresy.  Basically the poison, the Arian heresy, was very prevalent for almost 100 years but extremely wicked and heated for the first part of the 4th century.  The Arian heresy, is the denial of Jesus' consubstantiality with the Father.  And during this time, in the east and the west, just about every bishop excepted this heresy.  St. Basil and St. Hilary and St. Athanasius and Liberius and Ossius, St. Gregory Nazianz, were about the only ones to adhere to the truth and retain their See [Office]. 

Fr. William Jurgens: “At one point in the Church’s history, only a few years before Gregory’s [Nazianz] present preaching (+380 A.D.), perhaps the number of Catholic bishops in possession of sees, as opposed to Arian bishops in possession of sees, was no greater than something between 1% and 3% of the total. Had doctrine been determined by popularity, today we should all be deniers of Christ and opponents of the Spirit.”  (W.A. Jurgens, The Faith of the Early Fathers, Vol. 2, p. 39.)

Fr. William Jurgens: “In the time of the Emperor Valens (4th century), Basil was virtually the only orthodox Bishop in all the East who succeeded in retaining charge of his seeIf it has no other importance for modern man, a knowledge of the history of Arianism should demonstrate at least that the Catholic Church takes no account of popularity and numbers in shaping and maintaining doctrine: else, we should long since have had to abandon Basil and Hilary and Athanasius and Liberius and Ossius and call ourselves after Arius.”   (The Faith of the Early Fathers, Vol. 2, p. 3.)

St. Ambrose (+382): “There are not enough hours in the day for me to recite even the names of all the various sects of heretics.” (The Faith of the Early Fathers, Vol. 2, p. 158)

St. Gregory Nazianz (+380): “Where are they who revile us for our poverty and pride themselves in their riches?  They who define the Church by numbers and scorn the little flock?” (“Against the Arians,” The Faith of the Early Fathers, Vol. 2, p. 33)
(The Faith of the Early Fathers, Vol. 2, p. 3.)

If something this bad can happen in the 4th century, why do you have a problem with and deny what Jesus said about the end times.  Jesus even said that it will be so bad that when He comes back, will He even find any Catholic Faith left on Earth.

Luke 18:8  I say to you, that he will quickly revenge them. But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth?

Jesus was specific about a group of men, at a particular time, the end times just before He comes back, not through out history concerning the Antichrist.  These faithless men, will do such signs and wonders, that if it were possible even the elect would be deceived.  And I provided the truth, how few are saved, therefore, the elect will be few, not many!  Just like the first destruction of the world. 

YOU DEFEND THE ANTICHRIST, "JOHN PAUL II"!
Your arguments (not that I should dignify them with that title) are complete rubbish.

It's what you've tried before. You say:
you are an apostate
Scipture warned there would be apostates (followed by scripture passages)
There- proved from scripture.  ::doh::

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Re: The Antichrist Has Come And Gone And Just About No One Noticed
« Reply #4 on: Sat Feb 24, 2018 - 12:33:39 »



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Re: The Antichrist Has Come And Gone And Just About No One Noticed
« Reply #5 on: Sat Feb 24, 2018 - 14:22:10 »
"Winsome" quote.-"Your arguments (not that I should dignify them with that title) are complete rubbish.
It's what you've tried before. You say: you are an apostate
Scipture warned there would be apostates (followed by scripture passages)
There- proved from scripture."


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Winsome, you have demonstrated that you don't know a glossary of terms i.e. vocabulary!  And you don't even know the Catholic faith.

Apostate. -one who has abandoned one's religious faith, a political party, one's principles, or a cause.

To abandon the Catholic faith, is to deny Jesus Christ!!  And to deny Jesus Christ, is antichrist!!!

1 John 2:22 – “Who is a liar, but he who denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is an antichrist, who denieth the Father, and the Son.

Winsome, you try to deny the truth that is provided to you by mincing words.  You actually proved me, to be right!  You are embarrassing yourself.

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Re: The Antichrist Has Come And Gone And Just About No One Noticed
« Reply #6 on: Sun Feb 25, 2018 - 06:13:01 »
"Winsome" quote.-"Your arguments (not that I should dignify them with that title) are complete rubbish.
It's what you've tried before. You say: you are an apostate
Scipture warned there would be apostates (followed by scripture passages)
There- proved from scripture."


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Winsome, you have demonstrated that you don't know a glossary of terms i.e. vocabulary!  And you don't even know the Catholic faith.

Apostate. -one who has abandoned one's religious faith, a political party, one's principles, or a cause.

To abandon the Catholic faith, is to deny Jesus Christ!!  And to deny Jesus Christ, is antichrist!!!

1 John 2:22 – “Who is a liar, but he who denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is an antichrist, who denieth the Father, and the Son.

Winsome, you try to deny the truth that is provided to you by mincing words.  You actually proved me, to be right!  You are embarrassing yourself.

No, I'm not embassing anyone but you.

You cannot even answer simple questions. you just hide behind irrelevant scripture quotations

Let's see if you can answer one simple question without ducking and diving.

For by His incarnation the Son of God has united Himself in some fashion with every man. He worked with human hands, He thought with a human mind, acted by human choice and loved with a human heart. Born of the Virgin Mary, He has truly been made one of us, like us in all things except sin.
(Gaudium et Spes, para 22)

What, in your personal and fallible opinion, is wrong with that statement?


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« Reply #7 on: Mon Feb 26, 2018 - 04:10:19 »
Still waiting for a reply Isaias

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« Reply #8 on: Mon Feb 26, 2018 - 08:23:58 »
Antipope John Paul II outrageously says that Christmas is the feast of man, instead of Jesus Christ.

Antipope John Paul II, Urbi et Orbi, Dec. 25, 1978:  1. “I am addressing this message to every human being, to man in his humanityChristmas is the feast of man.”  https://w2.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/messages/urbi/documents/hf_jp-ii_mes_19781225_urbi.html


That's really stupid, and typical of the way you take something out of context in order to deceive people.

Firstly the setting is Christmas Day. A feast of Jesus

Secondly let's look at the more of what Pope John Paul II said
1. I am addressing this message to every human being, to man in his humanity. Christmas is the feast of man. A human being is born. He is one of the millions and millions of people who have been born, are being born and will be born on earth. A human being, one item in the vast range of statistics. It as not without reason that Jesus came into the world when a census 'was being held, when a Roman emperor wanted to know the number of subjects in his territory. A human being is an object to be counted, something considered under the aspect of quantity, one of many millions. Yet at the same time he is a single being, unique and unrepeatable. If we celebrate with such solemnity the birth of Jesus, it is to bear witness that every human being somebody unique and unrepeatable. If our human statistics, human categories, human political, economic and social systems, and mere human possibilities fail to ensure that man can be born, live and act as one who is unique and unrepeatable, then all this is ensured by God. For God and before God, the human being is always unique and unrepeatable, somebody thought of and chosen from eternity, some called and identified by his own name.
It is as it was with the first man, Adam. It is as it was with the new Adam, born of the Virgin Mary  in the cave at Bethlehem: "You shall call his name Jesus" (Lk 1:31).......

4. "Glory to God in the highest heaven" (Lk 2:14). God has come near. He is in our midst. He is the Man. He is born (has been born) at Bethlehem. He is lying in the manger, because there was no room for him at the inn (cf. Lk 2;7). His name: Jesus! His Mission: Christ! He is the Messenger of great Counsel, "Wonder-Counsellor" (Is 9:5); and we so often are irresolute, and our counsels do not bear the desired fruits. He is "Eternal-Father" (Is 9:5). "Pater futuri saeculi, Princips pacis"; and in spite of the fact that two thousand years separate us from his birth, he is always ahead of us, always goes before us. We must "run after him", and try to "reach him".

Pope John Paul II is quite clear that this is a feast of Jesus

Another of Isaias' deceiptful claims exposed as FALSE

 

     
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