My Diocese calls itself the Roman Catholic Diocese and Roman Catholic Church on its web site but that is I think because it is a Roman Rite Diocese.
Roman Catholics are Catholics, therefore all Catholics are Roman Catholics. That is an incorrect statement.
In what way is it incorrect , Forklift ?
With specific reference to my reply #52 , could you please give the reasons why I am in error in what I say ?
Let me say it this way, Byzantine Catholics are Catholics, but they are not Roman Catholics. They are, however, in communion with the Church in Rome. There are many different types of Catholics, they are in communion with the Church in Rome, but they aren't Roman Catholic. So to call the entire Church "Roman Catholic" would be incorrect.
Catholic means Universal, so let's replace the words. Byzantine Universal Church, Roman Universal Church, Armenian Universal Church, Alexandrian Universal Church, Anthiocian Univeral Church, West Syrian Universal Church, East Syrian Universal Church. All of these Churches are part of the Universal Church, or the Catholic Church, yet only one of them is Roman. They are all in agreement with each other, they all accept the Bishop of Rome as the titular head of the Church. They all hold the same core beliefs, but each one has different traditions and ways of celebrating the Eucharist.
Does that make sense to you?
In all the quotes on this thread which I have made regarding the Roman Catholic Church and the use of the adjective "Roman" I have used words from official , papal documents .
In these documents which refer to the Roman Catholic Church it is the Universal Church which is being referred to .
Latin rite , Byzantine rite , Armenian rite etc. do not enter into the matter .
When the Popes I have quoted wrote of "the Roman Catholic Church " they were writing of the Universal Church , not of some "Latin-rite Church" .
The Universal Church , whether Latin-rite , or Byzantine-rite , or Armenian-rite , is Roman not because of any rites but because it is in communion with the Roman See , with the Bishop of Rome .
If one were to limit the term "Roman Catholic Church" to those who use the Latin rite , it would make theological nonsense of what the Popes are saying in using the adjective "Roman" .
The Roman Catholic Church is the Universal Church of all those Catholics who use different rites because they are in communion with the Roman See , with the Bishop of Rome .
I get what you are saying and you are not necessarily wrong. You are correct that the Latin Rite is the Roman Rite, however, with Vatican II came changes in the way Mass was said. Since that time, Mass has been said in the language of the people so the term "Latin Rite" has fallen out of use to be replaced by the term "Roman Rite." Your assertions are a bit dated. The term "Roman Catholic Church" has never been an "official" name of the Church and has in the past 50 years fallen out of use all together by most Catholics. The term is held onto like a rock, however, by the Jack Chick followers out there.
But generally the universal Church just uses the term Catholic in it's documents rather than Roman Catholic
Sorry , but on this thread I have quoted from Roman Catholic documents examples where the Magisterium refers to the universal Church as the Roman Catholic Church .
Your diocese is a Roman Catholic Diocese because the diocese is in full communion with the Roman See , with the Bishop of Rome .
It calls itself the Roman Catholic Church because it is the Church in full communion with the Roman See , with the Bishop of Rome .
In "Mystici Corporis Christi" Pope Pius XII referred to what he called "The true Church of Jesus Christ" as "the One , Holy , Catholic , Apostolic and Roman Church" .
He also said : "Nothing surely more honourable can be imagined than to belong to the One , Holy , Catholic , Apostolic and Roman Church ."
Why did he give the adjective Roman to the Church ? It can't have been because of a Latin rite because he would have been teaching heresy . He would have been saying : "The true Church of Jesus Christ is the One , Holy , Catholic , Apostolic and Latin-rite Church ." Clearly that would be nonsense , and the Eastern Rite Churches in full communion with the Roman See , with the Bishop of Rome , would have been up in arms . They would have been excluded from "the true Church of Jesus Christ" .
No , don't be led astray by incorrect interpretations being given of the Church because there are several rites within the Roman Catholic Church .
The true Church of Jesus Christ is One , Holy , Catholic , Apostolic and Roman because it is in full communion with the Roman See , with the Bishop of Rome .
My parish website has " St Mary's RC Parish " .
No one in the parish would see the parish being referred to as an RC , Roman Catholic parish because of the rite used in the Liturgy of the parish . They know that it is referred to as a Roman Catholic parish because it is in communion with the bishop of the diocese who is in full communion with the Roman See , with the Bishop of Rome .