Can a married couple watch "one of those movies" for mood enhancement?

[kensington]

True dat.

Thats why we need more movies about gettin your freak on!

So then, it would be alright with you for your wife or daughter to star in one.... You know,  for the betterment of marriage and all? 

Since that is what is needed for marriages in the church...   she'd be like a missionary, right?  Giving it all for the sake of the church? 

[chosenone]

I'm glad i did not become a doctor. I would have been living in sin after examining all those naked bodies.

If your doctor is having sex with his wife because they are turned on by your exam, there are multiple charges to be filed, and you need a new doctor.  Stupid comparison.

 Well said James. rediculous comparison. besides most doctors only see the particular part of that person that they are medically wanting to see, such as the foot, or back or stomach or whatever it happens to be. they dont see all those 'naked' bodies as you said.
All I said is that the Bible is clear on not looking at anothers nakedness unless they are married.

I didn't think I needed to mention there are male gynocologist. Thats thinking outside the box so forget it. Stick to status quo theology on nakedness.

Couples are breaking up over communication. Physical and verbal. I have a seeking suspecion many women are such cold fish their husband does not know whether to make love, or embalm them.

   

So bringing porn in will help these women be more responsive tp their husbands will it.?I dont think so.
have you any real life cases of these women being 'cold fish' or is this just what you yourself think.?
You do seem to have a downer on women for some reason.

I cant actually believe that any Christian is trying to justify porn when it is so damaging and so destructive and so evil.

[chosenone]

I mean from a Christian perspective we are all about no ponography. I hear more and more how those kind of movies are supposed to help married couples spend more time with intimacy.

Would it be a sin to have people having sex on your TV while you and you spouse are trying to do the same?

This is no doubt a sin.  See Ezekiel where he talks about "vile images"...think about GLORIFYING the Lord.  Does this Glorify the Lord?  If no, then logic follows that it is probably not a good thing to do.  Plus you are probably not watching married couples having sex in these movies...they probably just met and are having sex outside of marriage, which is ALSO a sin.  So sin #1 plus sin #2 equals definitely sinful.

There are probably other things you could do to "enhance" the mood/experience.  You are inviting the presence of the devil into your activities if you engage in watching pornography, even as a couple.  It is an excuse to watch pornography.  You are trying to "justify" this sin.  Don't do it!

Love,
Your Christian sister

 Well said but sadly people can and will try to justify anything even if the Bible clearly tells them otherwise. Porn is evil and Satan loves it of course becuase it is so very destructive and damaging. Americans spend 12 billion dollars a year on porn.It is the last thing that any Christian couple should be inviting into their bedroom.

[chosenone]

True dat.

Thats why we need more movies about gettin your freak on!

So arent the millions that have already been made enough for you? Apparently there is a one porn movie made every hour in the uSA.
Porn is pure evil through and through. How anyone could ever justify porn use is beyond me. I thank God for a husband who would never use porn and who is very strict about what he allows himself to see or watch. People have had sex for thousands of years withtout it, why do we suddenly need it now??use your imagination in the bedroom.DONT bring in other people to defile the marriage bed.

[Bocephus]

Having fun Mark?

[janine]

No need for porn, ol' nasty evil stuff.  A woman will warm up and a man will enjoy her -- if he knows how to be a Godly, loving man and admire her and nurture her and so forth.

If she'd fishy it's 'cause he ain't got a clue, so there!

[kristinaf]

I was doing some bible reading and found two quotes from Ezekiel that I liked that I found somewhat relevant to this discussion....and they are as follows:

" And you shall know that I am the LORD; for you have not walked in My statutes nor executed My judgments, but have done according to the customs of the Gentiles which are all around you" (Ezekiel 11:12)

This basically is saying that even though the "world" and the "Gentiles" all around us who are engaging in bad activities, such as viewing pornography...just because it is "all around us" does not mean that we should engage in these types of activities ourselves. 

Also,

" 'But as for those whose hearts follow the desire for their detestable things and their abominations, I will recompense their deeds on their own heads,' says the Lord God." (Ezekiel 11 :21) 

Which is basically saying that those who follow after their own heart's evil desires and those who long for and give into "detestable things" and "their abominations" are bringing judgment into their lives.  God, most likely, is calling pornography "DETESTABLE" and an "ABOMINATION", at least that is the conclusion that I am drawing from what the Spirit revealed to me thru these passages.  Draw your own conclusions...I'm sure you will realize something very similar....

Good luck! 

Grab your sword and your shield...we are in a battle here folks! 

[lightshineon]

It said Christan pornography. I guess because they did not show their faces, they rationalized it was OK? It was a group out of California if I recall.

Lightshineon  That would be quite funny if it wasnt so sad and totally disrespectful to God.Sort of like, well God wont mind as long as we keep our faces covered, were they mad??I guess anything can be justified if we want to do it enough

.I oncea found a site called 'Christian marriag'e where they were advocating polygamy and another that was even worse when they said that it was OK to have another person in the bed(a women of course) as long as the man didnt lust after her or touch her??The world has gone mad.
God Bless

 I know what a bunch of reprobates, claiming Christ. Sigh why me? Probaly  the same group od sinners.

[chosenone]

I was doing some bible reading and found two quotes from Ezekiel that I liked that I found somewhat relevant to this discussion....and they are as follows:

" And you shall know that I am the LORD; for you have not walked in My statutes nor executed My judgments, but have done according to the customs of the Gentiles which are all around you" (Ezekiel 11:12)

This basically is saying that even though the "world" and the "Gentiles" all around us who are engaging in bad activities, such as viewing pornography...just because it is "all around us" does not mean that we should engage in these types of activities ourselves. 

Also,

" 'But as for those whose hearts follow the desire for their detestable things and their abominations, I will recompense their deeds on their own heads,' says the Lord God." (Ezekiel 11 :21) 

Which is basically saying that those who follow after their own heart's evil desires and those who long for and give into "detestable things" and "their abominations" are bringing judgment into their lives.  God, most likely, is calling pornography "DETESTABLE" and an "ABOMINATION", at least that is the conclusion that I am drawing from what the Spirit revealed to me thru these passages.  Draw your own conclusions...I'm sure you will realize something very similar....

Good luck! 

Grab your sword and your shield...we are in a battle here folks! 

That is true kristinaf, we ARE supposed to be different and to keep ourselves pure. The world may say, whats wrong with a bit if porn it isnt doing anyone any harm(well of course it is doing LOTS of people LOTS of harm) . We are suposed to be pure and to flee sexual immorality and to forsake ALL others, even if that is people in porn films. if we watch other people in porn we are in a sense being unfaithful to our spouses. We are looking at others who arent ours ot look at. They are other peoples husbands or wives or future husbands or wives. We are perpetuating the porn industry which  is vast and evil and destructive, and  which is making loads of immoral people lots of money,and which uses many  vulnerable people to keep them very rich.
We need to stay well away from this,and if we are dissassitisfied with our sex lives, pray and talk and lo0k up Christisn marriage advise of which there is loads.watching porn will only make any marriage worse  and invite all sorts of stuff in that we REALLY dont want in.     

[kozzy]

I appreciate everyone's perspective on this subject, and I find myself seriously reconsidering my own.  I honestly do.  One thing I'm really struggling with is how comparable this is to alcohol.  Alcohol's probably been the most destructive force on families in the history of civilization, it's made billions (perhaps trillions) for unscrupulous people, yet it's accepted, even in Christian circles, to have a couple glasses of wine.  Granted, it's not bring another couple into the marriage bed, but it is often a case of bringing a drug into the marriage bed.  How do people reconcile this inconsistency?

[yesult]

No need for porn, ol' nasty evil stuff.  A woman will warm up and a man will enjoy her -- if he knows how to be a Godly, loving man and admire her and nurture her and so forth.

If she'd fishy it's 'cause he ain't got a clue, so there!

Amen. Lust is the devils substitute and attack on Godly, sexual love. The more lust is allowed in a relationship, the more harm it will do. Porn creates lust. It doesn't do anything else. If you want good sex then you have to be willing to put the hours in to make your wife feel safe, precious, treasured and appreciated. If you make her feel beautiful and loved, she'll be more responsive to you because then sex builds your relationship and affirms her. Comparing her to other women will only make her feel devalued and disrespected - and watching porn can't leave any other consequence. Once a woman feels devalued by her husband, why would she be really responsive to him? It's like no matter what she has to give, it can never be enough. That's basically telling your wife that she's a failure at the innermost core of who she is, which is why you need to go elsewhere.
Porn will kill your sex life, not enhance it.

Watching other people have sex is sin. It degrades and demeans what God created sex to be about. And ask your wife for dirt and it'll kill her appetite for sex based on love which will ultimatly kill any good sexlife because really satisfying sex for a woman can't exist without love. It'll also cause you to lose respect for her to whatever degree which will also damage your relationship (because love can't flourish without respect.)

There can also be underlying issues like abuse, that can cause a woman to be unresponsive, but that's a seperate issue. Otherwise good sex comes with a good relationship (and that means what she thinks is a good relationship, not just what you think) (and forgiveness - if she's been used in the past or you (or both of you) have had other partners.

People can have a fabulous sex life in the short term without putting the work in, but it won't last the distance over a long-term relationship. You can't cheat and get away with it in this area. If you use someone, there's always a price. It might take a while for the consequences to become apparent, but they will eventually. It's just the way it works. (And anybody who doesn't experience them fully in this life (because they die young or something), will in the next, so it's really just not worth it on any level.)

Sex without love, or feeling loved, is just not satisfying sex for a woman in a long-term relationship. So a man will just shoot himself in the foot by being selfish or insensitive in this area.

[chosenone]

No need for porn, ol' nasty evil stuff.  A woman will warm up and a man will enjoy her -- if he knows how to be a Godly, loving man and admire her and nurture her and so forth.

If she'd fishy it's 'cause he ain't got a clue, so there!

Amen. Lust is the devils substitute and attack on Godly, sexual love. The more lust is allowed in a relationship, the more harm it will do. Porn creates lust. It doesn't do anything else. If you want good sex then you have to be willing to put the hours in to make your wife feel safe, precious, treasured and appreciated. If you make her feel beautiful and loved, she'll be more responsive to you because then sex builds your relationship and affirms her. Comparing her to other women will only make her feel devalued and disrespected - and watching porn can't leave any other consequence. Once a woman feels devalued by her husband, why would she be really responsive to him? It's like no matter what she has to give, it can never be enough. That's basically telling your wife that she's a failure at the innermost core of who she is, which is why you need to go elsewhere.
Porn will kill your sex life, not enhance it.

Watching other people have sex is sin. It degrades and demeans what God created sex to be about. And ask your wife for dirt and it'll kill her appetite for sex based on love which will ultimatly kill any good sexlife because really satisfying sex for a woman can't exist without love. It'll also cause you to lose respect for her to whatever degree which will also damage your relationship (because love can't flourish without respect.)

There can also be underlying issues like abuse, that can cause a woman to be unresponsive, but that's a seperate issue. Otherwise good sex comes with a good relationship (and that means what she thinks is a good relationship, not just what you think) (and forgiveness - if she's been used in the past or you (or both of you) have had other partners.

People can have a fabulous sex life in the short term without putting the work in, but it won't last the distance over a long-term relationship. You can't cheat and get away with it in this area. If you use someone, there's always a price. It might take a while for the consequences to become apparent, but they will eventually. It's just the way it works. (And anybody who doesn't experience them fully in this life (because they die young or something), will in the next, so it's really just not worth it on any level.)

Sex without love, or feeling loved, is just not satisfying sex for a woman in a long-term relationship. So a man will just shoot himself in the foot by being selfish or insensitive in this area.

 

Spot on yesult. if a man I was married to  looked at porn I would feel dead inside, It would make me feel 'not good enough' and rejected, and then.........guess what?. the last thing I would feel like doing is responding to him in bed,. It would have EXACTLY the opposite effect.
Good post

[chosenone]

I appreciate everyone's perspective on this subject, and I find myself seriously reconsidering my own.  I honestly do.  One thing I'm really struggling with is how comparable this is to alcohol.  Alcohol's probably been the most destructive force on families in the history of civilization, it's made billions (perhaps trillions) for unscrupulous people, yet it's accepted, even in Christian circles, to have a couple glasses of wine.  Granted, it's not bring another couple into the marriage bed, but it is often a case of bringing a drug into the marriage bed.  How do people reconcile this inconsistency?

 

Kozzy The alchohol issue is another one entirely, and I cant really see how thay are related. Yes alcohol destroys lives as porn does, but porn is about sexual immorality and being unfaithful and damaging your spouse.
The Bible doesnt forbid drinking but it does forbid getting drunk. The Bible does forbid sexual immorality, which I think most people will agree that porn use is..
Alcohol can be very damaging and destructive and many Christians dont actually drink, or just have one or two, but it isnt actually forbidden as far as I can see. in moderation..
So I see them as two seperate issues that can be discussed seperately but arent really connected in my opinion.

[lightshineon]

 In my Christian porn story, you know the naked Zorro Christians. The man went to church with me and is very elderly. Dirty old man though.  When I lived in that house, I was laying in the bathtub, my girls were at preschool, it was in the country. This man walked in the bathroom with his key, while I was relaxing in the tub. I was so angry, and ask him to leave, and he said in a minute. I wrapped myself in my towel, and went nuts on him. I am telling this because there is light and darkness, and no such things as " Christian" Porn. It is a perversion, God hates it, and it will end up destroying your marriage. It will give someone the mindset, of well if this is OK, then that would be OK. Sin spreads like rot.

[Bocephus]

Guess Mark was having fun doin' a little trollin' around.