Is it a sin for married couples to look at "Joy of Sex" book?

[chosenone]

How could it be a sin if done consentually between a man and his wife?

Avenger 

 

Oh I think there are things that would be wrong even if the couple were married, such as both looking at porn or being into sadism or masochism.

[avenger]

How could it be a sin if done consentually between a man and his wife?

Avenger  

 

Oh I think there are things that would be wrong even if the couple were married, such as both looking at porn or being into sadism or masochism.

His question wasn't about porn or S&M...it was specifically about looking at the book..."The Joy of Sex"........and that was the question I answered.

Avenger 

[phoebe]

How could it be a sin if done consentually between a man and his wife?

Avenger 

 

Oh I think there are things that would be wrong even if the couple were married, such as both looking at porn or being into sadism or masochism.

His question wasn't about porn or S&M...it was specifically about looking at the book..."The Joy of Sex"........and that was the question I answered.

Avenger 

Have you read the book?

[son of God]

All sorts of things can be done "consentually" between man and wife.  I knew two kids who's mom and dad poured gasoline on them when the slept, then put a match to it.  Bad, bad, bad stuff.  Many a man and wife get into all sorts of things, and yet that doesn't mean that it is either sin or good.  Some couples think that oral is sin, and others don't.  One spouse might think it sin, and the other not.  Scripture gives common sense guidelines for that sort of difference of conviction.  Yet the statement that if both agree on something it is just fine and dandy, is only a partial truth: it depends on that which they agree upon, actually being not evil or wrong, or used wrongly in their own hearts or desires.  

Your statement has great merit, when based upon the same premise as "I think, therefore I am", yet it's applicable entirety may be problematic spiritually and federally suspect.

Quite a stretch there friend.  I'm pretty sure you know the difference between a man and his wife having consentual sex...and deciding to kill their children.  

Avenger

I thought that post would be sufficient to get the point accross, because some things are too shameful to mention.  So let's just say that there is bondage stuff that is consentual, bringing to the point of almost flatlining during sex that is consentual, etc., that are a far cry from being Godly.

[avenger]

How could it be a sin if done consentually between a man and his wife?

Avenger 

 

Oh I think there are things that would be wrong even if the couple were married, such as both looking at porn or being into sadism or masochism.

His question wasn't about porn or S&M...it was specifically about looking at the book..."The Joy of Sex"........and that was the question I answered.

Avenger 

Have you read the book?

Parts of it.

[avenger]

All sorts of things can be done "consentually" between man and wife.  I knew two kids who's mom and dad poured gasoline on them when the slept, then put a match to it.  Bad, bad, bad stuff.  Many a man and wife get into all sorts of things, and yet that doesn't mean that it is either sin or good.  Some couples think that oral is sin, and others don't.  One spouse might think it sin, and the other not.  Scripture gives common sense guidelines for that sort of difference of conviction.  Yet the statement that if both agree on something it is just fine and dandy, is only a partial truth: it depends on that which they agree upon, actually being not evil or wrong, or used wrongly in their own hearts or desires. 

Your statement has great merit, when based upon the same premise as "I think, therefore I am", yet it's applicable entirety may be problematic spiritually and federally suspect.

Quite a stretch there friend.  I'm pretty sure you know the difference between a man and his wife having consentual sex...and deciding to kill their children. 

Avenger

I thought that post would be sufficient to get the point accross, because some things are too shameful to mention.  So let's just say that there is bondage stuff that is consentual, bringing to the point of almost flatlining during sex that is consentual, etc., that are a far cry from being Godly.

Yes I would say that what you describe is not something that would be sanctioned by God, but I was under the impression that the question was about a Christian couple reading "The Joy of Sex" together.  Once again...that's a far cry from choking one another to near death.  I think a couple of you folks are way too concerned about making a needless point because you mistankenly thought I inferred that all things between consenting adults were ok.  I did not.

Avenger

[Dexter]

True, but the book did sell very well for some reason. Maybe most folks are not that creative.

Lets face it, most people are not that creative is a massive understatement.  The stark reality is that most men have focused slam, bam, thank you maam attitude and a similar number of women are afraid of being judged against thier peers when they bring all the verve of a cold fish to the bedroom.

Statistics over decades don't lie.  And they tell us our children start too young, have little repitoir, and feel to some degree unfulfilled by thier partners.  So the book fills a need, but there must be a better way because I read the book and frankly, it sucked.  Even in the seventies.

Very well put James. I agree with your response and I hope it helps others here too.

[Sardine Can]

When does the sex education flick start? 

[farouk]

But Hollywood feeds off it...

Hollywood did not make sex.   ....

[son of God]

I guess that when looking at these things for help or insight as a couple --- shop 'til you drop, baby!!!!

[dallasapple]

True, but the book did sell very well for some reason. Maybe most folks are not that creative.

Lets face it, most people are not that creative is a massive understatement.  The stark reality is that most men have focused slam, bam, thank you maam attitude and a similar number of women are afraid of being judged against thier peers when they bring all the verve of a cold fish to the bedroom.

Statistics over decades don't lie.  And they tell us our children start too young, have little repitoir, and feel to some degree unfulfilled by thier partners.  So the book fills a need, but there must be a better way because I read the book and frankly, it sucked.  Even in the seventies.

I agree and as far as a woman desiring "more" than wham bam thank you mam its her responsibility to speak up and say what she likes.

How is the man supposed to know if she doesnt tell him.Especialy if she is faking it that its all good.

Love

Dallas

[son of God]

True, but the book did sell very well for some reason. Maybe most folks are not that creative.

Lets face it, most people are not that creative is a massive understatement.  The stark reality is that most men have focused slam, bam, thank you maam attitude and a similar number of women are afraid of being judged against thier peers when they bring all the verve of a cold fish to the bedroom.

Statistics over decades don't lie.  And they tell us our children start too young, have little repitoir, and feel to some degree unfulfilled by thier partners.  So the book fills a need, but there must be a better way because I read the book and frankly, it sucked.  Even in the seventies.

I agree and as far as a woman desiring "more" than wham bam thank you mam its her responsibility to speak up and say what she likes.

How is the man supposed to know if she doesnt tell him.Especialy if she is faking it that its all good.

Love

Dallas

This is so, so true!  And I used to wonder how the female "great communicators" didn't see that they should speak of and tell it like it is to their man!  It took a few years, but I finally got it.  Some of us are slow learners.

[walker starr]

      Hollywood did not make sex.  It just exploited it.   

[Mac]

I agree and as far as a woman desiring "more" than wham bam thank you mam its her responsibility to speak up and say what she likes.

How is the man supposed to know if she doesnt tell him.Especialy if she is faking it that its all good.

Love

Dallas

100% truth.

[Mac]

      Hollywood did not make sex.  It just exploited it.   

Wisdom.