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Re: Let Each Woman Have Her Own Husband
« Reply #75 on: December 06, 2008, 05:55:33 AM »
As some one has already said it is really immaterial as to whether you want another woman in your life. If you marry again you are breaking the law of your country and could be jailed, and if you dont marry her and still sleep with her, you will be breaking Gods law by committing adultery or fornication. You will also be causing the other woman to committ adultery as she will  be sleeping with a married man. Also the marriage bed will be defiled becuase you are bringing another women into the marriage and being unfaithful to your wife.God cannot and will not bless a marriage where these things are happening and you will ultimately reap what you sow.

it is your decision but doesnt it seem strange to you that everyone here sems to see the total opposite to you from the Bible?
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Re: Let Each Woman Have Her Own Husband
« Reply #76 on: December 06, 2008, 06:34:43 AM »
The thing is, a bunch of guys having more than one wife means that there will be lots of guys with none.  If three women have the same husband, how is any of them having her own husband? 

"Let each woman have her own husband"?  Any volunteers to take on Janet Reno, guys?






Janet Reno is hot!   At least she makes my blood boil.

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Re: Let Each Woman Have Her Own Husband
« Reply #77 on: December 06, 2008, 06:38:33 AM »
In the early years of this country, certain men and women who considered themselves Christians made exactly the same arguments you are making:

It is in the Old Testament.
It is accepted in the Bible and appears to be approved by God.
It is “natural”.
It is “logical” - the strong and powerful ought to protect and care for the weak and disenfranchised.
Jesus never objected to it.
The NT writers never abolished it.
In fact, the NT writers spoke of it and gave advice regarding it.

What were THEY talking about? 


Slavery.


I'll take the advice of your tagline on this. 

Wasn't arguing.  Just stating facts.  Don't think you can dispute them.
I'll take my own advice now.


This was exactly my point about marrying your pet.   Same basic list can be used to justify whatever!   You can substitute slavery for homosexuality for example in our current social climate.   Especially if you throw out the OT since we are now only NT.

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Re: Let Each Woman Have Her Own Husband
« Reply #78 on: December 06, 2008, 07:21:53 AM »
Memphis, using the logic you have presented here, saying that our OT patriarchs did it, you could also say owning slaves would be perfectly fine today.love,Sopranette
Is he really serious?  If he is, about multiple wives, I'll never take anything he says seriously again.  Give me a break. 
He is serious.  He'd better learn to live with the daily catfights, too, if this is what he really wants. That's what would happen, at least, in my home, if DH brought in a younger, cuter woman as his new "wife".  I KNOW I would make it a point to make her life miserable until she leaves. If he thinks the women will all just get alongs like the best of buddies, he's dreaming.

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« Reply #79 on: December 06, 2008, 07:32:19 AM »
Memphis, using the logic you have presented here, saying that our OT patriarchs did it, you could also say owning slaves would be perfectly fine today.love,Sopranette
Is he really serious?  If he is, about multiple wives, I'll never take anything he says seriously again.  Give me a break. 
He is serious.  He'd better learn to live with the daily catfights, too, if this is what he really wants. That's what would happen, at least, in my home, if DH brought in a younger, cuter woman as his new "wife".  I KNOW I would make it a point to make her life miserable until she leaves. If he thinks the women will all just get alongs like the best of buddies, he's dreaming.

love,
Sopranette


That's the thing Sopranette, if you read his words he also thinks women are property (daughters, wives...) that should be obedient to him (even as he is disobedient), he doesn't care what women want or think as his posts make it evident that we are not to be valued as daughters of Christ but instead only as a commodity.   Apparently he hasn't read Paul's words regarding husbands love you wives as Christ loves the church but instead is one those who disregards that section of the chapter and goes straight to the section addressing women, so he doesn't have to fulfill his part.  It's yet another case in society of me me me, I I I ....

What an example of Christ that is, I am thankful that my Lord and my Father in Heaven doesn't view me or my sisters in this way!

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Re: Let Each Woman Have Her Own Husband
« Reply #80 on: December 06, 2008, 10:38:30 AM »
Here is what I see....

The word says that your body is not your own... that a man should fulfill his duty to "his wife" .. not wives.  And that she should do the same for him.  Not stand in line while he picks which wife he wants that night. 

Not at all.

I think this choice is about LUST... about having a Pornagraphic mind and self.  It's not about being a helpmate in marriage...  "Helpmate"... singular.  But in what the man can get for himself.  None of us are stupid, we've seen the stories and the way it goes in those kinds of marriages...  The man marries a young woman, a girl usually, and as she ages (AND SO DOES HE BY THE WAY) he goes and gets another YOUNG woman to bring into the house so he can keep renewing them and keeping his current squeeze YOUNG for himself.  While he just grows older and becomes the dirty old man forcing himself on young women sold to him in the name of keeping them young for the dad's who "OWN" them to begin with. 

I am convinced this is about a sexual bondage the man is in, and using younger women feeds it. 

Did I miss anything?  I doubt it.   ::tippinghat::
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Re: Let Each Woman Have Her Own Husband
« Reply #81 on: December 06, 2008, 11:37:12 AM »
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Re: Let Each Woman Have Her Own Husband
« Reply #82 on: December 06, 2008, 09:32:20 PM »
Statistically, that would not happen... "millions of men without wives"... as it's been recorded for decades that women outnumber men in the world.

I think those who are chucked out of the cults are better off... they can go find normal wives and marriages.  IMHO. 

Apparently, there are about equal numbers of men and women born now.If there are more women born it is usually only about one percent more. If there were many many men who wanted 2 or 3 or 4 wives, then there would be many many with no one to marry.
The fact is that there are more boys born than girls, by a very narrow margin... about 1%.  But boys... and men have a higher mortality rate,  so once you get over a certain age single women outnumber single men by a pretty big margin.  The problem is that these available women are mostly over 60 years old... and the men who want multiple spouses are looking for a much younger woman.
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Re: Let Each Woman Have Her Own Husband
« Reply #83 on: December 07, 2008, 02:32:31 AM »
Statistically, that would not happen... "millions of men without wives"... as it's been recorded for decades that women outnumber men in the world.

I think those who are chucked out of the cults are better off... they can go find normal wives and marriages.  IMHO. 

Apparently, there are about equal numbers of men and women born now.If there are more women born it is usually only about one percent more. If there were many many men who wanted 2 or 3 or 4 wives, then there would be many many with no one to marry.
The fact is that there are more boys born than girls, by a very narrow margin... about 1%.  But boys... and men have a higher mortality rate,  so once you get over a certain age single women outnumber single men by a pretty big margin.  The problem is that these available women are mostly over 60 years old... and the men who want multiple spouses are looking for a much younger woman.

EXACTLY
 they arent interested in someone of their age are they. It makes me feel ill when I think of these man who 'marry' girls who are sometimes young enough to be their granddaughters, and who are actually only children, and turn them into baby making machines and sex slaves. Awful. it must be child abuse surely.Trouble is they get away with it becuase the women are either too scared or too brainwashed to say anythuing agains the men so the police cant do much.
They would probably claim that younger women can give them more children, but why do they need so many children anyway, except to carry on the supply of young girls for the men to 'marry'and young lads who get churcked out.
it makes me feel angry that they can get away with it.
Why does anyone need more than a few children in this world where there are far too many anyway?   
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« Reply #84 on: March 28, 2012, 12:19:45 PM »
I know this thread is old, but I was reading some of Pfc Hall’s posts and ran across this:


I would like for my second wife to be very physically voluptuous.  Because usually that is a sign of fertility.  If she looks like Venus Williams, well then that would be awesome.  We’re praying that the right woman comes along soon. 


Venus Williams - “physically voluptuous

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« Reply #85 on: March 28, 2012, 01:00:36 PM »
I know this thread is old, but I was reading some of Pfc Hall’s posts and ran across this:


I would like for my second wife to be very physically voluptuous.  Because usually that is a sign of fertility.  If she looks like Venus Williams, well then that would be awesome.  We’re praying that the right woman comes along soon. 


Venus Williams - “physically voluptuous” ?
Memphis must have gotten the sisters mixed up, I think he meant Serena Williams. ::smile::

I cant tell the difference usually. 
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It is by Grace we have been saved though Faith and not by works so that no one can boast.

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Re: Let Each Woman Have Her Own Husband
« Reply #86 on: April 19, 2012, 12:21:35 PM »
Here is what I see....

The word says that your body is not your own... that a man should fulfill his duty to "his wife" .. not wives.  ....  Not stand in line while he picks which wife he wants that night.
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I think this choice is about LUST... about having a Pornagraphic mind and self.  
In first century Jewish culture multiple wives was rare, with the exception of levirite marriages. (but that was  rare as well)

Levirite marriage was commanded in the Law.  It did not matter if you were already married, if your brother dies childless, you had the duty to raise up children to him.

And BTW, there was no choosing who to be with tonight.  You were REQUIRED by Jewish Oral Law to keep all of them satisfied; and if you had a job that was not overly physical and kept you at home the requirement was DAILY. ** 

IOW, if a guy had 3 wives and was a shop keeper or a baker or some such trade, he had to sexually satisfy EACH of them every day.

I think that any lust associated with it would burn out fairly quickly.  

BTW, 1 Cor 7 is the ONLY place that says a woman should do that for her husband.  There are more scriptures going the other way.

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« Reply #87 on: April 20, 2012, 06:27:31 AM »
Dave,
it just seems like from quite a bit of your statements on here that you seem to think that Jewish oral tradition or writings are in some way binding?  Is that what you believe?

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Re: Let Each Woman Have Her Own Husband
« Reply #88 on: April 26, 2012, 10:24:52 AM »
The thing is, a bunch of guys having more than one wife means that there will be lots of guys with none.

Not in a world where half or 3/4 of every generarion of the guys die in war.
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If three women have the same husband, how is any of them having her own husband?  

"Her own" as in the one she is married to as opposed to having one NOT married to her.

But as Chosenone said, to do that now breaks the laws of almost every country.

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« Reply #89 on: April 26, 2012, 10:31:02 AM »
The thing is, a bunch of guys having more than one wife means that there will be lots of guys with none.

Not in a world where half or 3/4 of every generarion of the guys die in war.
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If three women have the same husband, how is any of them having her own husband? 

"Her own" as in the one she is married to as opposed to having one NOT married to her.

But as Chosenone said, to do that now breaks the laws of almost every country.


 If a man has three 'wives' none of them have their 'own' husband, they are sharing one. I have my own husband because I am his only wife.
In Him I live and move and have my being.

My determined purpose is that I may know Him - that I may progressively become more deeply and intimately acquainted with Him, perceiving and recognizing and understanding the wonders of His Person more strongly and more clearly."

It is by Grace we have been saved though Faith and not by works so that no one can boast.