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Re: You cannot remarry...
« Reply #70 on: Thu Jan 31, 2019 - 03:41:46 »
You have no need to repent of something that was done to you.
Judy, that's about one of the few things you said in relation to the subject~You cannot remarry that has some truth to it....but even that saying, could come down to pointing fingers at who's at fault.  I truly believe many men have put their wife in a very vulnerable situation by the way they treat them with emotional and verbal abuse, etc. and also a "few" women~as our brother said:
Quote from: Jaime Reply #66 on: Yesterday at 17:18:19
because in most cases it is not clear who is the "innocent party" in a divorce. A lot of times we "think" we know but I admit one has to be rather nosy to ferret out those answers and I usually don't go there
The bottom line are we going to follow the way of the Pharisees in the NT and allow men to put away women for every cause?

Chosenone, let it be very clear a woman was never allow to put away her husband for any cause~she did indeed have a right to leave her husband but never to divorce him. If you think otherwise then show me the scriptures supporting your beliefs, not just your personal opinion.
Quote from: The apostle Paul
1st Corinthians 7:10,12~"And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband: But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife."
A woman is free to depart from her husband for many different reasons which we could name, but if she departs she is not free to seek another husband based on the law of marriage explain in Romans 7:1-4.
Quote from: The apostle Paul (NOT my personal opinion)
Romans 7:1-3~"Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law (the law of marriage~RB),) how that the law (the law of marriage~RB) hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth? For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man."
The law of marriage instituted by God in Genesis 2 was for life with NO EXCEPTIONS for divorce none whatsoever, not even adultery~David prove that by going after Michal and bring ing back to him after she married another man! Jesus made it very plain that he also understood that marriage, as it was ordained of God, was until DEATH the ONLY thing that frees both husband and the woman from the bond of marriage.
Quote from: JESUS CHRIST
Matthew 19:3-9~"The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause? And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery."
BEFORE the fall of man there was NO EXCEPTIONS to the law of marriage as far as allowing divorces, or for a man to put away his wife.

Chosenone it seems to me that you have fallen into to the doctrine of the Pharisees that allows a man to put away his wife for just about any clause. You said:
Quote from: Chosenone Reply #69 on: Yesterday at 23:19:27
then so can adultery, sexual immorality, abuse, abandonment or whatever it was that lead to the marriage ending.
The only exception is given by Moses after the fall of man is the sins of fornication, and there are NO other exceptions.

Again, as I said above a man can easily remarriage (BUT, he would still be under scriptural obligation to fully support his wives and children~we need to get to Ezra ten)  and NOT be living in adultery, but not so is the case with women! The reason why is that Moses ALSO allows men to have more than one living wife at a time without it being a sin of adultery~but we will leave that be since I have already dealt with that subject. Do you find it hard that Paul said........
Quote from: Paul
let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband
and NEVER said the same to the man? I understand why he did, but you reject it.
Quote from: Chosenone  Reply #65 on: Yesterday at 16:56:32
You clearly haven't been reading my posts.
That something you cannot accuse me of~I read them very carefully proven by the way I answer all thread, which you do not~you are pointing the finger at the wrong person~look into the mirror and you will see who is the guilty one. Well, you may read them that I give you credit, but you refuse to hear me carefully and judge my words with the scriptures. You keep saying that you have studied this subject out...well, so have others and maybe in greater details and with more light and without any bias whatsoever since some still have the same spouses as Jaime said that he does and so do I. It is very hard not to try to protect your marriage as being approved of God, than approach the scriptures to accept ONLY what God said about the law of marriage. Let it be clear, NO ONE has a right to judge another man's salvation based on the law of marriage for ONLY God knows the details we do not and cannot know. Now that being said~there is only one exception to marriage and divorce and that be the sins of fornication ONLY, there are no others. If so, prove it with using scriptures. If I'm wrong then I will repent and confess that I'm in the wrong~ I rather have the truth than thinking I'm right when I'm wrong and fighting against God.



 
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Re: You cannot remarry...
« Reply #71 on: Thu Jan 31, 2019 - 10:21:52 »
Well, you are more than welcome to give your understanding...please do so. Just be prepared to defend it. Do not do as Chosenone, who gives her opinions without ever defending her position with scriptures AND addressing her opponents positions which we do with scriptures. Would love to hear from you.

As usual, I'm off until 4:00 am.  Would love to wake up with others comments added to this thread.  Most likely I will wake up to this:

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For us now, as Christians, marriage is to be as God intended from the start with Adam and Eve, one wife and one husband. Let each woman have her OWN husband, and let each man have his OWN wife. Clear as day.

  ......RB

You can believe whatever you want, but 1 Corinthians 7:2 is, to me, just as chosenone said...clear as day. It absolutely excludes multiple partners for either spouse. I would have to believe Paul understands the O.T. scriptures very well and he isn't giving any allowance from the laws and customs of those times to say otherwise in his writings regarding marriage for those in Christ.

Also, you seem to want to apply certain restrictions to the wife that you believe are not applicable to the husband, such as the husband being allowed to divorce his wife, but the wife not being able to divorce her husband. However, in 1 Corinthians 7:10-13, I believe that what is said regarding the allowances and restrictions for the wife are equally applicable to the husband. Where the passage says that if the wife should depart from her husband, she is not to be remarried or else she should be reconciled to her husband, the same is true for the husband, in that verse 11 says, "...and that the husband leave not his wife."

Regarding Romans 7:1-4, the passage is aimed at helping the readers understand that trying to be subject to Christ and subject to the law of Moses at the same time is adultery. I am sure that you understand this. I personally cannot read it and claim that in actual marriage, the husband has allowances that are not applicable to the wife. I believe both parties have equal allowances and restrictions regarding marriage. Paul did not go into such details except what was needed to make his point regarding the reader's relationships to Christ and the law of Moses.
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Re: You cannot remarry...
« Reply #72 on: Mon Feb 11, 2019 - 12:22:39 »
Not all marriages are even God sanctioned. What I mean by that is God doesn't get behind all marriages. Sometimes it was man who joined two together, such as the case with my ex-wife and I.

We were coerced into marrying by Pastors who we thought had our best interests in mind when they kept saying you two should get married, you should be married, God has ordained that you get married, God wants you two to be married. We listened and it was the worst thing we could have done. She said that I don't make her happy. So, she divorced me, even though I didn't want to be divorced. I still tried to make it work, prayed that we would stay together, but she divorced me anyway. After the divorce and during the separation I realized that her and I are toxic together. After we separated I was able to come off of depression medication that I was put on during our marriage. That says something right there.

I now have a wonderful relationship with a girl. I prayed one night that God bring me the woman that He has for me, three weeks later I met my girlfriend. Come to find out that she prayed that same exact night that God bring her the man he has for her. There is no arguing, yelling or screaming. We get along so much better than anyone I have ever been with. She divorced her husband because he couldn't keep it in his pants. He cheated on her with many women and is currently living with the last one he cheated on her with. He told her that he will not stop.

This relationship is indeed God ordained and we are talking marriage.

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Re: You cannot remarry...
« Reply #73 on: Sat Feb 23, 2019 - 12:49:32 »
::announcment:: ::announcment:: ::announcment::

You are not able to remarry
(Unless your spouse has died)


Matt 5:32
 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery


Matt 19: 8-9
 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning.
 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”


Is this your second marriage ...or more?
You're in an adulterous marriage !

 ::announcment:: ::announcment::
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What if you never consummated the marriage with each?   Can you divorce then?  How can you commit adultery against someone you haven't had sex with?