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Need others input about church members and divorce
« on: Mon Aug 07, 2017 - 19:01:41 »
Is it the responsibility of the body of christ or church family encourage divorce. My opinion no don't push divorce on other couples. This is the responsibility of the elders and pastor only. If couples are going thru difficult times encourage them and counseling so on. If it ends in divorce there is no blood on your hands. Am i missing something here? This is how I feel if you disagree make a good case. But to me something as a marriage covenant is off limits to extended body of christ who is not an elder or a pastor. Only and only a pastor or elder can pass a solid judgement.

Make a good solid case if you feel othewise.

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Re: Need others input about church members and divorce
« Reply #1 on: Tue Aug 08, 2017 - 04:32:21 »
Is it the responsibility of the body of christ or church family encourage divorce. My opinion no don't push divorce on other couples.
Divorce truly should never be an option for believers, never. This is not my personal opinion but the word of God.
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1st Corinthians 7:10,11~"And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband: But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.
Pretty clear is it not?
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This is the responsibility of the elders and pastor only
Wrong.....no man has the authority to give their judgment, especially when it is so clearly written in the word of God.  There's nothing difficult about what Paul said. Every man, and so-called pastor and every elder (older saints) are under authority to speak according to thus saith the Lord God~if they do not, then we should not listen to them, for their words mean very little to a believer.
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But to me something as a marriage covenant is off limits to extended body of christ who is not an elder or a pastor.
Every saint, including those who think that they have the authority to speak for God are UNDER the same rule as any other believer, and their word carries no more weight if NOT supported with scriptures than the most feeble member of Christ's body does.
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Only and only a pastor or elder can pass a solid judgement.
I would agree that a worthy elder should be able to guide a person according to God's will, yet that does not make him infallible just because he is an older saint...again, the word of God is our only infallible rule for doctrine and godliness.
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Malachi 2:15,16~"And did not he make one? Yet had he the residue of the spirit. And wherefore one? That he might seek a godly seed. Therefore take heed to your spirit, and let none deal treacherously against the wife of his youth. For the LORD, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the LORD of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously."
If one cannot live in peace, then depart, yet, remain unmarried, OR, be reconciled back. There are rare occasions when it would be impossible to be reconciled, if so, then every case must be judged on its own merits to see what is best for the innocent spouse who did not desire even separation. 
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Re: Need others input about church members and divorce
« Reply #2 on: Tue Aug 08, 2017 - 06:40:20 »
No one should ever 'push' divorce on anyone. However, if there is serious abuse of the spouse and/or children, or there has been adultery or similar, or abandonment, then the marriage can be ended, and indeed if there is serious abuse, then the abused spouse and children need to leave the abuser asap.
However, sometimes one spouse will tell others their marriage business and that draws others in.This happened with my husbands ex. He said nothing out of respect for her, she told quite a few people.
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Re: Need others input about church members and divorce
« Reply #3 on: Tue Aug 08, 2017 - 07:03:44 »

However, sometimes one spouse will tell others their marriage business and that draws others in.

Yep, that's what is going on here. If you read through his previous posts/threads, he spends his time ruminating over divorce and remarriage - interjecting personal experiences into the convo. Naturally, that encourages readers to offer their opinions. If someone doesn't want advice, they should be careful about telling others their problems because it's only natural for the listeners to want to give advice.
Planetshaker is on his second marriage and is obviously miserable with wifey #2 and desperately grasping at straws trying to justify leaving her. From reading his earlier posts, he's conflicted on what constitutes grounds for divorce and remarriage. I got tickled at his earlier posts about wives who get older (like husbands don't?) have bad hair days, and how "loads of debt" causes conflict, however marriage is supposed to be a lifetime covenant, but, there are still ways out of that marriage.
I'm just hoping there's not a wifey #3 in his future - for her sake.







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Re: Need others input about church members and divorce
« Reply #4 on: Tue Aug 08, 2017 - 07:51:40 »
Is it the responsibility of the body of christ or church family encourage divorce. My opinion no don't push divorce on other couples. This is the responsibility of the elders and pastor only. If couples are going thru difficult times encourage them and counseling so on. If it ends in divorce there is no blood on your hands. Am i missing something here? This is how I feel if you disagree make a good case. But to me something as a marriage covenant is off limits to extended body of christ who is not an elder or a pastor. Only and only a pastor or elder can pass a solid judgement.

Make a good solid case if you feel othewise.

Extremely simple.  Pastor/Elder can counsel, but it should be to reiterate God's Word in a loving fashion.  Their judgment is to speak God's Word. Divorce is only permissible in the case of sexual immorality according to the scriptures.

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