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« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2008, 09:28:00 AM »

Actually Divorce Care groups have many people who have been through divorce, have been healed, and are now seeking to help others who are going through such.  And of course, a major part of their healing was forgiveness, forgiveness for their ex-spouse who hurt them so badly, and forgiveness for themselves.  Forgiveness is a powerful key to receive healing and grace.

Another key to receiving healing is giving of yourself to others.  And helping others going through something similar to you is powerful.  Praying for them especially releases tremendous grace into your life.  It is more blessed to give than to receive.  If we'll be faithful to give to others in areas that we need, God will step in and bless us powerfully in those specific areas.  What one sows, one will reap in spades!  This spiritual and physical law works both positively and negatively. 

I've worked for years in a prayer ministry and it never ceases to amaze me how God will arrange the calls.  If I was having financial problems, I'd find that 50% or more of the calls that I received were for financial needs.  If I was having problems in my marriage, I'd find that I'd be praying for marital issues, one right after another for days. 

So, I encourage you to pray for those who spitefully use you.  Bless those who curse you.  And do good to those who persecute you.  Release your husband into the Lord's hands.  Forgive him even as God has forgiven you.  Do it even though you don't feel it; the feelings will eventually come.  Pray to be filled with the spirit of God's forgiveness, set your will to forgive, and then forgive him every time you think of him or some wrong he did to you. 

Forgiveness was a powerful key to my mom's healing after she and my dad divorced.  It was a key for my dad too.  Life is too short to walk in bitterness; it's a poison that destroys one's soul and one's other relationships. 

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If interested the following link will is to a thread with my beliefs on Marriage, Divorce, and Remarriage: http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/index.php/topic,20182.0.html
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« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2008, 05:17:25 PM »

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Other than me, there are at least four other employees out of seven that have gone through a divorce where I work so we do talk about that sometimes. Actually, we did this morning...my boss isn't just a simple boss, she has become one very good friend of mine since I started working there...that does help...we understand each other very much, especially in the 'divorce' area...



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I have been doing exactly that too, but not in the 'divorce' department though...I work evening shifts and sometimes day shifts in a home for elderly people so I do take care of others all the time. ...that too helps me not to think about my own problems...since I don't have my family to take care of anymore, well, I consider those people as my little family now...some of the elderly women residents over there even tell me that they love me as much as if I was their own daughter...


There is this elderly woman that does treat me very badly. She screams at me, and has hit me a few times. She often screams at pretty much everybody...she considers herself sinless and always innocent of wrong doing and says that Jesus has forgiven her a long time ago...I do pray for her, she needs to repent for her bad behavior... Praying hard


There was also a man that used to do the same thing...he left the residence last week because he hit my boss. She called the ambulance and the police and now he won't be coming back...I do pray for him as well... Praying hard


It isn't as if I am sitting around at home all day pitying myself...for the past year and half, I have been working very hard physically, emotionally and spiritually...sometimes I feel as though God has directed me to this specific residence for His purpose when my boss needed it the most, she was considering on selling the residence because she couldn't find good employees...I used to work as a barber for years, but now, of all things, I work as a caregiver! sometimes I hardly believe it myself, but it's true!...and I had no experience whatsoever when I first started working there!...I help elderly people die with respect and dignity...This is by far the best job that I could have ever found!...


I do forgive my husband because he sure doesn't know nor does he understand what he has done!...I don't have any other choice but to forgive him...otherwise, God won't forgive me!...I love God but I also fear Him very much...and every living soul should too!...


I told my husband the day he left that I will love him as a human being for the rest of my life because God says so...but sorry, I will never consider him as my friend anymore, that is over...............well maybe I need some more time for that. Certainly not now!... Banging head against wall




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« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2008, 05:37:10 PM »

Hehealedme,

I'm very glad that you're doing well, moving on with your life and doing your best to walk in forgiveness.  I pray that the Lord brings full healing to your heart.

Blessings,
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« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2008, 12:16:01 AM »

In less than 8 hours from now I will be sitting in court to finalize the divorce...I hope to be able to sleep tonight, I am quite nervous and scared...



God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

Living one day at a time;
Enjoying one moment at a time;
Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace;
Taking, as He did, this sinful world
as it is, not as I would have it;
Trusting that He will make all things right
if I surrender to His Will;
That I may be reasonably happy in this life
and supremely happy with Him
Forever in the next.
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« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2008, 10:01:15 AM »

I pray that you sense the comfort, healing, power, encouragement, love, and acceptance of the Lord in a very special way today.  He is with you and will protect and provide for you.

Blessings,
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If interested the following link will is to a thread with my beliefs on Marriage, Divorce, and Remarriage: http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/index.php/topic,20182.0.html
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« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2008, 12:35:34 AM »

The divorce wasn't finalized last week like I hoped it would be...it will still drag on for a while, hopefully not for too long, I am getting so tired of this. We will have to go back to court because the judge, a woman this time, wants more proof about my income not being as high as he says it to be...which means that he lied again on purpose...

He also says that he has limited abilities so he can't find anyone that will hire him for work...which isn't true...the truth is that he doesn't want to go to work anymore, he wants to have an early retirement at 43 years old!...I have told the judge that I have pictures proving that he isn't as limited as he says that he is...when a man is capable of uprooting the roots of a huge tree, his physical abilities aren't so limited after all...he said that he used a chainsaw but he was still the one holding and using that tool!...lets be logical about this, he was also using his legs and arms!...

He wants me to pay between 15% and 20% more on child support for our daughter!...I simply cannot afford this!...all he wants is more money...and he is ready to do anything to obtain it...I am hoping that the judge has already seen or will soon see that he is trying to abuse the system to get what he wants... Praying hard

I did have a talk with my daughter on the phone last weekend since the last time we had one back in January...it went well considering the situation we are still in...it wasn't all good news I am afraid. She has been making very bad decisions since they both left, and there isn't much I can do for her because she won't listen to my advices...Crying and sad.
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« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2008, 01:11:30 AM »

I did have a talk with my daughter on the phone last weekend since the last time we had one back in January...it went well considering the situation we are still in...it wasn't all good news I am afraid. She has been making very bad decisions since they both left, and there isn't much I can do for her because she won't listen to my advices...Crying and sad.

Hehealedme,

Why does he have custody of the daughter? I saw your post when you said she went with him because he has no rules (my word's not yours). But there has got to be something more to it...Why have you not spoken to her since January? Have you petitioned the court for visitation?

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« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2008, 01:23:55 PM »

In Quebec, the law says that a 14 year old teenager ( or is it at age 12? )  has the right to decide who she wants to live with...the day my husband announced me that he was leaving, he asked our daughter who she wanted to live with...she said to me with a huge smile on her face that she loved me but that she wanted to go live with him. She said that she gets along better with him...but the thing is that he is so much more permissive than I am, he has no rules and doesn't care what she does...


For instance, I did not permit her to go to parties where there was drinking alcool involved...He didn't mind if she drank...I did not permit her to go out when there was school the next day. I used to tell her that she needed to study to get her grades higher before having the permission to go out during the week...she did however have permission to go out during weekends...unfortunately for her, she got caught sneaking out at night from her bedroom window to be with her friends while she was supposed to be in bed...I did not give her permission when she was only13 years old at the time, to go to her boyfriend of the week's prom night where there would have been alcool on the side...he was very close to turning 18 years old and was going to cegep a few months later. I thought he was way too old for her and her boyfriend's prom wasn't her place nor was it her time to be there...if she had been older at the time, things would have been different for sure, she would have had permissions if she followed simple rules!...I am not a monster!...

In 2006 when we went to court the first time, his lawyer served me a sheet of paper saying that our daughter was the one to decide whether she would want to see me or not and when and where, according to her will and desires...there was no mention whatsoever of my own rights as a mother...I cannot force her in seeing or calling me...she is the one that has the last word on this. Whether I like it or not, I have to accept it...

Since she left with him in 2006, she hasn't communicated with anyone from my side of the family and yet, she wanted to come over to my parents' house on Christmas to get presents as if nothing had happened.  They wouldn't have been allowed to say anything to her concerning her behavior otherwise she would leave if she desired to...I told her that first, she needed to apologize to them for the way she has treated them since she left with her father...she wouldn't do that so she was mad at me and ignored me since then...


She is behaving the exact same way as he did when he was a teenager himself...he hated authority and discipline and still does to this day...she hates authority and discipline too...he hated being told what to do...she hates it too...he wouldn't listen to anyone...she won't either.....

Now, he is supposedly having a hard time with her. She won't listen to him, her grades are horrible and she will probably flunk her school year again...he is making it sound like everything has been my entire fault from the beginning...



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« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2008, 05:02:15 PM »

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Why does he have custody of the daughter? I saw your post when you said she went with him because he has no rules (my word's not yours). But there has got to be something more to it...Why have you not spoken to her since January? Have you petitioned the court for visitation?

Mac

Again, it is true, as you said, he has no rules...those words very well could have been my own...I am thankful that you have obviously seen through him by what I have said so far...

There is a lot more involved about why she decided to go live with him...I started reading the Bible in 2004...he was completely against it and so were the members of his foster family (he was never adopted but lived with that family for a few years when he was in his teenage years). A huge fight went on on New Year's Eve of the year 2005 between his foster sister along with her boyfriend and myself...they accused me of being a Jehovah Witness and a Mormon and being part of a cult...they are non-practicing Catholics themselves...they never read the Bible and obviously don't believe in it. That foster sister of his and her boyfriend are very superficial, live for money, and don't live according to God's Word at all.... I have always said that they are not a good influence on my daughter...they too wanted my daughter to drink wine that evening but I told them that she was way too young so I couldn't give her permission to drink if it was against the law, I told them that it was wrong...My husband told me that evening that I was forcing him into choosing between his family members, or me, his wife...

A few months later, he brought home a friend of his from where he worked at the time to convince me to stop reading and studying the Bible but that person was a devoted Christian and told my husband that I was doing the right thing, and that he needed to repent himself too for living a sinful life...

My daughter asked me, the day that they left, if I intended to continue on reading the Bible...I answers yes to her, that I would continue...she then turned around, went in her bedroom and continued on packing her suitcase.......

After school was over that summer of 2006, my husband brought our daughter at his foster mother's house for the summer...once I was out of the hospital after having spent three weeks there because of a nervous breakdown that I was having due to their departure, especially hers, I called her up over there...she did want to see me so we arranged a date and a place to meet which would have been at my parents' house a few days later for Father's Day...the next day, I called her. She then told me that she had changed her mind. I heard his foster mother not too far from her, telling her to hang up the phone.......she has been manipulated by him and those people way before they left...


The devil has been playing a lot with my family and has destroyed it... Crying and sad. Banging head against wall



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« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2008, 06:56:54 PM »

Please, can someone please help me with this?...I don't know what to do anymore!... Crying and sad.



My husband said to a Christian lady friend of mine from the United States that he will do everything to keep our daughter away from me...and he is succeeding so far!... Crying and sad.
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« Reply #25 on: June 02, 2008, 10:57:53 PM »

If your husband doesn't want anything to do with GOD and your daughter if following him in rebellion,  I am not sure you can do anything but pray... pray much... for both of them.  Read the bible and take those words of promise and LOVE that Jesus speaks to you, and pray that for them too.

Here, at a certain age, a child can speak as to who they would like to live with, but they don't decide it. The court hears them, and hears all the evidence, and usually the child has a lawyer representitive and all sides are heard and the judge decides... the child does not decided.

It's plain that your girl is playing the "I can have what I want game" with all of you..  she sees the benefits of living with him in rebellion and using your broken heart to get what she wants from you.  I think you did the right thing to not allow her to just use your parents for "gift givers"... if she doesn't want to spend time with them, or respect them for who they are... what do they need to waste money on presents for her for?  I wouldn't allow my child to treat anyone that way.

Of course then you will have those people feeding into her mind that "IF" they really loved her they would give her gifts no matter what. Don't feed that.  Continue to tell her you love her, you want to see her and you hope she will choose to come see you and your parents...  And... You need A LAWYER who can help you get through this mans' schemes.... 

IF you have no higher income, and you have proof of your income.. then prove it.  Don't be intimidated by lies that you can prove to be false... Here you present your last years taxe returns and that is the bottom line on what you make. Do you have those? 

Keep your heart and eyes on the LORD and fight for your rights as a mom.  He should not be dropping her off anywhere for the summer, if he doesn't have her... you should have her. You need a better lawyer.

You can seek for joint custody.. and anytime she is not with him, she will be with you. You can petition the court that way.  Tell your Lawyer what you want as a bottom line, and if he can't get that for you... Get another lawyer.
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« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2008, 09:03:09 AM »

Please, can someone please help me with this?...I don't know what to do anymore!... Crying and sad.
My husband said to a Christian lady friend of mine from the United States that he will do everything to keep our daughter away from me...and he is succeeding so far!... Crying and sad.

As kensington said, you need to go to the Lord in prayer. Deep prayer. As far as your daughter goes, I know they live in Quebec, but you have rights as a Mother to this child. AND I DON'T CARE WHAT HE SAY'S.

What is the legal drinking age in Quebec? If she is under aged, HE is breaking the law. Show me a judge who would let that stay as is. We are talking about the welfare of a minor here. You need a lawyer and you need one asap. I do not care what the law states about being able to choose and at what age. Would the court allow a 14 year old child to live with a child molestor? NO!!!!  It is NOT in the best interest of your daughter to live where SHE is in charge. And believe me, the Judge knows this. They will only let her chose her living place only if where she wants to be is the best place for her. That is why most civilised countries have CHILD PROTECTION AND FAMILY WELFARE LAWS.

Get to a lawyer asap. If you can't afford one, get one provided from the state. Here in the U.S., the children's and family court system will refer lawyers who do pro-bono work.

You are probably thinking that I spent very little time talking about the Lord and what he will do here...Well, It is time that YOU take action. You can't pray for help in this matter then sit at home and hope it works out. Put on the armor of God's word and fight this battle head on. Get a lawyer....Petition the courts....THEN see what the Lord is capable of...YOU have to take the steps here. Good luck...I will be praying for you.
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« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2008, 10:39:00 AM »

The legal age for drinking is 18 years old...he IS breaking the law...and if the court forces her to live with me, she will surely run away!...she has a steady boyfriend where she lives now, they have been together for eight months. P***** told the court that she wants to go live with that guy... Crying and sad.


I DO have a lawyer and on  May21st  I DID for the first time since I was able to speak for myself, mention to the judge everything that I mentionned to you here and other things as well...it is my understanding so far that my daughter seems to have used the same lawyer as he has...

I have given all the documents that prove that I don't have as much money as he pretends that I have...I should normally be able to have half of his military pension but he doesn't want me to have a single penny from it...I also have given my lawyer pictures that prove that he isn't as physically inabled as he pretends to be...I am hoping that he will show them to the judge...

At this time, I am waiting for the judge's decision...
This has been dragging on for two years!!!!!...I am sooooo sick of this!!!!!!!!!!... Crying and sad.


I wrote this letter for the judge before I went to court in 2006 but I wasn't allowed to give it to the judge back then, because when we went to court it was only for the child support payments that I had to pay to him that was settled...very unfairly in my opinion since I wasn't able to say anything...

This is what I wrote back then:

Your Honor, for more than two years and a half P*****  has demonstrated coldness towards me. It isn’t a coincidence that he was sleeping in the basement. Every reason seemed reasonnable for him to justify his actions;  back pain, neck pain, knee pain, I move too much in the bed, I take too much room, I caugh too much due to cigarettes, he was concerned for his job, we didn’t go to bed at the same time, sexual intercourse had practically become a thing of past...and so on...

During that period, I felt totally neglected and ignored and this until the day of our separation. I tried to discuss our problems with P*****  on several occasions but the right moment never seemed to come, I seemed to disturb him and irritate him with each attempt... there was great tension in the house and following one of our many arguments, I lit and smoked a cigarette. I acknowledge that it was an error on my part but you see Your Honor, P*****  has also been smokiing for years and was constantly on my back for me to stop, and the result was that our daughter C******** also started to be on my back and this without complainning about P*****'s smoking... I was being hassled without cease day after day for more than two years and a half, this which did not help me to stop, and stressed me more, especially that he smoked in my face as much as he wanted...

It was approximately at this period that I also started to read and study the Bible by using the computer and going to Church, I still feel today an enormous wellbeing by going there. That seemed to irritate P*****  very much, enough so that our daughter started to act in the same way towards me... P*****  does not believe in the Bible, he does not believe that the Word of God was inspired by God Himself to men... he said it to me on several occasions these last few years, on the other hand, he told me that he was ready to swear on the Bible nevertheless, that he didn’t have any choice. He would probably swear on a Sears catalogue that it would make the same effect... How will you be able to know if P*****  intends on saying the truth, Your Honor?... And since when it is badly seen for reading the Bible?... Certain people seem to believe that I am unable to understand the contents of it, but I say that I am able to, not entirely of course, but for quite several passages.

C********  at this moment is a rebellious child who seeks and wants freedom at all costs. She thus seeks to take the easiest door for wanting to go to live with her father. She wants nothing to do with discipline... It is true that I received a strict education from my parents and I thank them today for this gesture. I know that it was a gesture of love for me. I did perhaps not always agree with their decisions at the same age that C********  is at this moment, but I respected them and I listened to them.

I always tried to educate our daughter the best way that I could, the way in which I myself was educated. I know that I am far from being perfect, nobody is, after all, I can make mistakes sometimes, just like anybody else but I can say with confidence that I considere myself capable of assuming the guardianship of our minor daughter C******** . I consider that I have all the required qualities to take care of my daughter in order to assume her moral, intellectual, emotional, spiritual and physicals needs. All these points are important to live a life in harmony... I love my daughter with all my heart, Your Honor, and all I want is her wellbeing...

P*****  seems to consider that it is all right for our daughter to drink wine or other alcoholic beverages on occasions but I am in disagreement Your Honor because providing alcohol to a minor is against the law. If they cannot buy some at the liquor store or supermarket, they shouldn’t be drinking at home either. I thus do not feel comfortable to give C********  permission to consume alcohol at her young age, it would be against my principles and my beliefs... I know on the other hand that C********  will want to live her own experiences. I believe to be able to help her go in the right direction.

C********  is also at the age where she wants to live her sexuality the way she wants to. The schools even provide the pill to the girls and the condoms for the boys. Unfortunately, these young people are not of age to fully understand the consequences of their actions, resulting that many girls find themselves pregnant. C********  needs to be guided to prevent that from happening to her, not only by providing her the pill or condoms which is far from being sufficient, but by having dialogues made with love and sincerity on a regular basis... Again this time, I believe being able enough to help her go in the right direction.

C********  also needs a good follow-up for her school performances. Last year she was prescribed Ritalin to help her in this direction. Unfortunately, C********  did not want to take them as prescribed which generated a fragrant school failure. She will have to remake her Sec III this year.

P*****  was neglected throughout his childhood by his biological mother and many other foster families. He then got to know for just a few years how it was to live a family life. P***** always hated his biological mother, he has told me on several occasions during our married life and it pains me to see the result of it today... he seems to have directed his hostility towards me for years...

(There is more to that letter but I never translated it in English. I only wrote it in French...)



I also wrote this poem a few weeks after I got out of the hospital in 2006. I gave it to my lawyer last week in hopes that he will show it to the judge...he told me that I will be able to show it to the judge the next time I get to talk in court.......I surely will!!!...You can count on it!!!... Crying and sad.


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Eventhough questions arise in my heart,  I know I made the right choice...
How will I survive when everything around me has fallen apart?…
I want to hold on to the Truth and keep listening to Your voice...
But happiness seems so far of reach, sorrow has taken place in my heart...

Do not fear my child for you are not alone, I will never let you down...
''My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness''...
I know how the ocean seems so deep now and feel you are about to drown...
But do not despair my child, no lesson in life is meant to be meaningless...

I wish I knew all the answers my Lord, I would keep them in my heart and mind...
Confusion shadows my surroundings, why does prejudice prevail in this world?...
Getting to know You is so wonderful, but some say that I have since become blind...
Astrologers, fortune tellers and scientists as well, are only caught up in a twisted whirl...
 
 I know you've been searching your whole life, chin up my child and reach for the skies...
 Keep following Jesus' footsteps, He is my Son, the Truth and the Light for all mankind...
 Faith is all you need to have, they too one day shall see with their own heart and eyes...
 I am the Creator of the whole picture, the Truth is always there for every soul to find...
 
The mountain ahead seems so high and filled with enormous adversities, it is absurd...
We live in a world where everyone screams for free speach and ignoring what is real...                     
 I know I shouldn't trust my own feelings, they are a poor reflection of Your Word...
 But how comforting it is to know, that You love me and understand how I feel...
 I will continue to grow in Your Word my Lord...You are immensely adored!...

 

''For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord,
 'plans to prosper you and not to harm you,
plans to give you hope and a future' ''...Jeremiah 29:11



I translated the message that C******** sent me just before last Christmas...I also translated the last message that I sent her...I know that I was very harsh to C********...both my parents read it and they agreed with me for everything that I told her...they both saw for years how P*****  used to treat both C******** and I...they also saw a big change in C********'s behavior in the last few years that we were still a family...



From C********:

I want to tell you that I have too big of a heart to not even wish you a nice christmas... so I am wishing you one...even if I know that in your heart you won't have that impression...I don't know if you are aware of this but every time we talk either on the phone or by computer...we fight...in fact I am the one that gets mad at you....

I will be honest with you...it will surely hurt you and I know that you are crying while reading my message because I know you very well...mother...I am under the impression that you do not understand what I am doing...I know that you are sick...I can tell I am not crazy...you have a problem and for that you should go see a psychologist because without being nasty...you need one...I too will see one but not for the same reasons..what I want you to understand is that us two, it is never possible to have a discussion without fighting...listen...I would like to have a mother with whom I can laugh but you never seem to be able to laugh......I have rarely seen you laugh out loud...as if you were having fun....so....anyways..th at is one of the reason we don't get along....

so regardless of all that, I wanted to wish you a nice christmas anyways....[/b]

c******** xoxoxoxoxo



Now this was my response to her:


Dear C********


I am so glad that you finally admit that you are the one that gets mad at me all the time, and not I who gets mad at you...I have known that for a very long time, you are not telling me anything new...and now, as your mother, I am strongly advising you to do the right thing and apologize. Not only to me but also to your grand-parents, your oncles and your aunts from my side of the family that haven't done anything wrong to you for you to act this way towards them...

You think that you know me well my poor child, but I can tell you that you are making a big mistake about me, a huge one...you are convinced that I have cried countless tears pitying myself over my poor little self while reading your message, isn't that so?...well, I will tell you one thing. I might desappoint you but it hasn't happened, not one tear came out and I have no intention on wasting any more, it isn't worth it anymore...I have cried enough as it is...

Do you really think that I cry every day and that I have to swallow countless pills for the nerves so I can just get up in the morning and be able to fonction during the day?...and that I have to take another dozen pills to be able to sleep at night?...is this what you are imagining me of doing every day C********Confused...permit me to laugh!!!...

Think again sweetheart...do you think that my boss would trust me enough to give me the responsability of 10 people day after day if I was that sick in the head???...frankly, don't you think that you are exagerating a little!...

Before allowing yourself to make a diagnostic on my mental health C********, I strongly advise you to first acquire a little more maturity and perhaps getting a diploma in psychology for example and then we would talk about it again, once that you will have acquired more experience in life, okay?!... C********, it saddens me to say this, but you have become very rude with time... and that, that certainly does not come from me!... I have never educated you this way!...

You tell me that you would like to have a mother with whom you are capable of laughing...you tell me ''have a mother''...and not ''see my mother''...there is a very big difference between the two there...we do not choose our parents, C********...but it really seems that you have chosen another mother, or rather no, you father has chosen another one for you to replace me!...do not wonder why I spent three weeks at the hospital!...what would you have done if you had been in my place?...you would have taken it with a huge smile in the middle of your face?...don't you think that it is a little normal that I cry or that we fight every time we talk!!!...really C********!...look at the reality in front of you!...

Have you at least taken the time to come visit me enough for the past year and a half that you have been gone to be able to tell me, without any proof whatsoever, since you haven't come to see me in person, that I cannot laugh out loud at all?!!!,,,and that I have never laughed in my life!?!!!...you should come and spend a few days with me where I work or even at my house, in the house where you grew up...you would then see that you are talking nonsense, you are saying things that mean absolutely nothing...

You told me that I was irritating you...well, I also have plenty of things that have irritated me and are still irritating me!...I have tried to tell you many times so far, and I will tell you again, maybe this time it will enter your head...I was extremelly unhappy with your father, for many years, that is very true. I was having a hard time to laugh and was having a hard time to keep a smile on my face. However, when I was far from him, I could easily laugh out loud!...I knew too well that your father didn't love me with love, it was so obvious!...everyone around us knew that your father didn't love me. My friends have always wondered how I was able to endure him, and I am not exagerating!...no, he didn't love me with love, but rather for his own little personnal comfort...I was his possession until one day, he had had enough of me and he got rid of me like he did with our dog!...

He liked too much to be served but without ever being satisfied...no matter what I did, he was never content. When he would come home, as soon as his foot was in the door, he used to go lie down in the basement, and naturally, he would always get up in a bad mood, and then, stay away from him hein, he always complained about all his imaginary little booboos... I know too well that now that he has left since more than a year and a half, he doesn'tt sleep any longer on his famous puffed up mattress. His girlfriend would surely not have accepted it!... Lets be logical here!...

You have a very short memory, C********. If you and I were speaking a little too loud while eating at the dinner table, he used to get mad at both you and I because he couldn't listen to his precious depressive news on tv. He used to put the volume of the tv to the maximum!...don't you remember that every time, he used to tell us to shut our mouths?...do you think that this was a good way of treating his wife and daughter!?!!!...

If there was something that I wanted to ask him or tell him whatever the reason was, he would get mad at me because I was disturbing him...as soon as I had pronounced his name, he was saying that I was annoying, without even knowing what I wanted to tell him. He never wanted to talk to me...that is not the role of a husband and father of a family!...

When I started smoking again following one of our namy discussions that would lead nowhere, (and I am not saying dispute, but rather discussion), he got on my back so that I would stop smoking, but him, he continued smoking in my face, he even did it during those five years, all the time that I had stopped!...I remember very well that I had never nagged him for him to stop, and he didn't care...you remember how you too got on my back as well?...it wasn't very nice of you!...at least, you have apologized for that...

I could go on and on C********...but what good will that do?...you wouldn't believe me!...Do you really think that it was pleasant to live with a man like that?!...

I should have left him years ago but I didn't want you to be separated from you father...something that he didn't mind doing by making you believe that I was the one being ''sick''...he did everything to make you turn against me, without you even acknowledging that he had manipulated you all that time...and you had the audacity to tell me that I had manipulated you!...it is more than time that you wake up C********...

At the residence where I work, I am very happy to be able to say that I have the reputation of always being in a good mood, that I smile very easily and that I am one who they can count on for every occasion...the residents are very attached to me, they love me very much, they tell me and I tell them also. And when I have a day off, the other employees are always being asked when I will be coming back to work...I am not making this up Catherine!...it is plainly the truth!...I even have pictures to prove it, if you ever want to see them, I will send them to you...

I am not the same person that you have known but you seem to believe that I still am...you don't even know me like you pretend C********, and you are not doing anything to know me better apart from saying that I am sick, otherwise you wouldn't be acting this way...oh but what's the use of trying to convince you!...every time that we talk on the phone or through msn, I go through every emotion possible because of the way you have of ignoring what I would want you to understand...which is absolutely normal after all!...you should talk to your psychologist about it when you decide to go and see one!......by the way, I have a very good phychologist, I talk to Him each and every day, if only you would want to know Him, He would change your life like He changed mine!...

I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year...
mom...







The day that I ended up in the hospital in 2006, a very good Christian lady friend of mine that lives in the States was looking for me...she knew that something not normal had happened to me... She phoned at my house and he was the one that answered the phone...he told her that he will do everything he can to keep our daughter as far away from me...a year later, they both moved two hours and a half away from where I live with his girlfriend. They bought a house together...he has succeeded...





There is more to this but do you get the picture now?... Am I such a bad mom?ConfusedConfusedConfused??...Crying and sad.



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« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2008, 10:57:36 AM »

When they left, he wanted us to use a mediator without me having my own lawyer...the day I went to the hospital, it was because I couldn't take his harassements anymore, and also our daughter had left with him...I finally broke down, this was a week and a half later...I was desperately afraid of what he would do...he kept calling me at home. That specific day, he was coming over to our house to put a for sale sign for our house on our front yard...
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« Reply #29 on: June 05, 2008, 01:18:07 AM »

If your name was with his on the title to he house, how could he sell it without your agreement?  Even if it was only his name, surely even Canada has laws that stop or at least slow and regulate the sale by the husband when the estranged wife lives there and does not agree.

Are you continuing in prayer?

Are you content with your lawyer?

Even while you try to walk this troubled path as a good Christian, please also keep a strong grip on the provisions the law makes for your rights.  Keep on it.  Be in good communication with your lawyer.

Then pray some more.
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