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« on: Sun May 15, 2011 - 17:39:03 »
My wife and I have been married for almost 4 years.  She has moved out of or apartment a little over 2 weeks ago.  I did not have any communication with her until a couple days ago when she emailed me about taking her name of off the lease.  I do not want to get a divorce. I have been praying and trying to let God take control of the situation.

Here is a little bit of what has happened. I cant remember the exact time, but it was about 6mths before we got married, I cheated on her.  We started dating in November of 2004 and We had a long distance relationship for 2005-2007.  I did not tell her that I cheated because I was a coward and was afraid that she would leave me.  I prayed to God for forgiveness and I felt in my heart that he did  but I still did not tell her.  The only thing I told her was that I kissed another girl and she was upset about it for a while.

I cheated in January of 07 and we got engaged in late may and married in July of 07.  She found out about my cheating this past December on new years eve.  She locked herself in the bathroom and cried for about an hour, then she came out and we hugged for about 30 mins and we sat on the couch and she asked me about everything.  I told her everything and that it was just that one night.  She said she forgave me and that she still trusted me and that I should not have carried that burden for so long in our marriage. And i broke down and cried and asked for her forgiveness and she said she forgave me. 

About a couple weeks afterward ( I'm guessing) she opened up to her friend Bob at work and told him about my cheating and then he opened up to her about him wanting to leave his wife.  That was the start of their emotional affair.  The beginning of February she told me that she had feeling for Bob and that she stopped them.  So I thought oh okay she stopped them, I have nothing to worry about. Plus I met the guy before and I thought that he wasn't a threat to me at all.  March came around and she started acting differently, i logged in to her email account and found all sorts of emails that they were sending each other and it broke my heart.  The sweet girl that I married had turned into this different person.  I told her about the emails and she informed that she would stop talking to him and asked if she needed to quit her job.  I told her no we could afford for her to quit her job and to just try and not talk to him. 

Since this is getting lengthy ill skip ahead to the meat. She ended up leaving me for a couple days this past April and slept with him multiple times.  When she told me I left our apartment and did not call her. 3 days later she came looking for me and wanted to work on our marriage, and I wanted to too. I thought that she ran off with the guy. and she had good reason too. This guy is 6'5"  230lbs  0% body fat, he is an ex army ranger, and he is a millionaire.  He offered to buy her a car, pay for her school, and he even got an apartment for the both of them since he was leaving his wife.  She left all of that and came back to me, a poor college student who makes less than 20,000 a year and is not over 6' and doesn't have the greatest body.  That proves to me that she loved me and that she had morals.  We were together for a week and he had picked out a couple of christian marriage counselors to go see, but then she left one day when I was at work. I came home to find a note on the table saying that she doesn't think that our marriage can be happy anymore and that she is dealing with too much guilt, pain, and unhappiness and that fixing our marriage is impossible.

I have been going to counseling for the past two weeks and am trying to strengthen my relationship with God and am working on myself.  I have prayed to God and he has made me see all of the mistakes I have made in my marriage. I was neglectful and focused too much on school and making sure that we were financially secure, and neglected her needs of affection and intimate conversation.  I was not the best husband that I could have been.  I see now what I have done and I'm afraid that it is too late.  I feel that God has made me see what Ive done and I want to be the husband that he has called me to be. I do not feel that our marriage is hopeless and I know that God can restore our marriage and give us an even deeper love that we have ever had.  I just wish that I could make her see that.  She doesn't want to meet with me and talk to me. I have tried to ask her and she said that she doesn't see any good coming from a face to face conversation.  Yesterday while I was in church she sent an email to my phone saying to pray for her because she doesn't have the power to see me.  I told her that I would and that I pray for both of us everyday that God will give us the strength to do his will.  I know God doesn't want my marriage to end in divorce and I feel that If he has done all of this work in my life in the past two weeks then he has done work in her life too.  But she is being so hurtful in the way that she emails me and responds to my requests to meet and talk about our marriage.  So as of now I am just sitting here and hoping that one day she will reach out to God and he will touch her and help her to see that walking away from our marriage is not the answer and that we should at least try and go to counseling and put God first in our marriage. I want to do things the right way, the way God intended.

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« Reply #1 on: Sun May 15, 2011 - 22:50:24 »
Sorry you have to go through this pain right now. Sounds like you will get through it.

What I picked up on was you were married 4 years and your wife slept with another man then left you. I also heard a little low self worth on your part. Maybe alot.
Time is on your side. Don't assume anything rely on facts. Stay close to God and pray for the return of your wife. But more important pray for God's will. These situations are very hard. We want to control our spouce to make them do what is right or cause them to end our pain. Neither works well. She has made terrible choices and now has to deal with them. I don't feel you have done anything worthy of divorce.
You can choose to forgive her but she needs to make it right and decide where she wants to be..Then the counseling begins..
Oh! don't forget God is in control only if you let him be.
God Bless you.


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« Reply #2 on: Sun May 15, 2011 - 23:08:34 »
Hi Hopeful
The facts are that you did wrong, as you know already, by cheating before marriage, but she has also acted very badly by cheating while married to you with this other man (who is also married). You cant blame yourself for her behaviour, you are only responsible for yours. No husband or wife is perfect and cheating is a choice that we make ourselves. Do you know if she is now with him?

Is she a believer? If so could your pastor or a trusted mature Christian lady go and speak to her?
If she is now with this man, this maybe why she doesnt want to see you, but you can only keep on praying and allowing God to work on you. What she does, and her relationship with God is up to her.Just pray that she will be open to God working and speaking.

I think it would have been very wise for her to get another job and cut off all contact with this other man, who is also acting so badly,and if she does get to the point of working on the marriage and coming back, then leaving her job would surely be needed.
Getting too close to work colleagues causes so much cheating, and so many divorces, I have seen it all around me, in my family, and among those who I know.Clear strict boundaries are needed with work colleagues of the opposite sex. If she needed to confide in someone, it needed to be another woman, preferably a Christin friend.

However for you, divorce is a long way off. She hasnt mentioned it and many things can change in the next few weeks or months. Keep hoping and trusting God to act.  

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« Reply #3 on: Mon May 16, 2011 - 07:27:46 »
I am trying my hardest to let go and give God control. I feel like I am but I'm not sure if I fully know how to do that. I have little moments throughout the days where my stomach is just going crazy and I feel that need to do something or say something to her. 

As far as I know, she is not with that man right now.  I think she is staying with a woman that she used to work with at her old job.  She wanted to work on our marriage after the affair and she ended up quitting her job for that reason.  The guy the affair was with was her boss.  After that she said she felt like a failure.  And I told her that she isn't a failure, she is a fighter because she is choosing to work on our marriage.  But her aunt went through a similar situation with her husband.  They cheated on each other multiple times and her aunt told her that she wouldn't have stayed if it wasn't for her kids.  then she told my wife that if there was nothing holding her to me that she should leave.  So i feel that all the support she is getting from her family and her friend is to leave and to not deal with the situation. 

She is a christian, but I would never ask a pastor or anyone to go talk to her, I feel that that would only make matters worse or that she would feel really embarrassed and get angry at me for involving someone else.

I feel that a face to face conversation would help us get these feelings out in the open. But she is only allowing me to have email contact with her.  And even that is very minimal.  And it does hurt me that she is acting this way toward me after 7 years of knowing each other.  Its just impossible to show her that I still love her and meet her needs through email.

But I am doing what I can to pray for her and our marriage everyday, and am praying that God will change me to be the husband and man that he has called me to be.  I'm asking everyone who reads this to pray that God would open her heart to do his will and draw closer to him.

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« Reply #4 on: Mon May 16, 2011 - 07:47:42 »
Could you ask her to go and see the pastor together? Or a good Christian marriage counsellor?

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« Reply #5 on: Mon May 16, 2011 - 07:53:38 »
I asked her and I asked her family to tell her, I made an appointment the day after she first left. And her family told me that she wasn't going to go.  And I'm not sure if asking her now would be a good thing or not.  I want to be sure that she wants to work on our marriage before I ask her to go.

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« Reply #6 on: Mon May 16, 2011 - 08:38:21 »
have you been to talk to him about it yourself? You do need some good godly support at this time

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« Reply #7 on: Mon May 16, 2011 - 08:53:40 »
I talked to the pastor of the church that Ive been going to and he said that he would be praying for the both of us. And he did give me his number to contact him to let him know how things are going. 

But I have been seeing a christian counselor for the past couple of weeks and it has been helping me.  She has given me some incite as to how my wife might be feeling.  But its hard to tell because she has never met my wife.  She has offered to email my wife and ask her if she would be willing to go in and talk to her, but I'm afraid that my wife would not go and cut off the little contact with me for good.  I feel like if I were to do anything or ask her anything that that would push her farther away.

I'm not sure if I should allow the counselor to email her or not.  Plus my wife does not have a means of transportation since she left her car at home.  I told her she should come pick it up and use it, but she never responded to that.


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« Reply #8 on: Mon May 16, 2011 - 10:51:20 »
Do you guys think I should send her this message or should I just keep praying and give her her space?

"I am staying at the apartment until August when the lease is up.  You don't have to worry about paying for anything, I do not expect you to.   I will find another place to live after that. I think that you should use the car since you do not have anyway to get around now.  The key is on the kitchen counter.

I think that we need to talk, so when you are ready to see me, let me know.  I hope you are doing okay.  I just want to let you know that I love you and I am giving you your space.  I am praying everyday for the both of us."

What do you think? Am I being too needy and will this push her away more?

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« Reply #9 on: Mon May 16, 2011 - 11:43:09 »
Sounds OK to me.

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« Reply #10 on: Mon May 16, 2011 - 15:03:41 »
I just got this message from her. Im freaking out.

"I know you are still in the process of figuring out what u are doing, however i thought it might help to know what ill be doing. I will be sending movers to tge house by the end of the month to pick up my moms stuff (the couches and table). I would also like the washer and drier if u would like to keep the bed thats fine. I will be taking dpnl off of my name this week so if u are planning on staying in the apt you will need to call them to place it in ur name.  please let me know if u will be staying so i will know how to proceed with the apt ppl."


I now understand why God doesn't like divorce.  The feelings that I had for her after I got this message were not good at all.  I dont want them.  I want us to be together and for us to work our problems out but the reality is is she is done.

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« Reply #11 on: Tue May 17, 2011 - 13:00:48 »
Is it wrong to pray and ask God to let her miss me and be miserable without me?  And to ask that He let her see what she is doing to go against His word?

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« Reply #12 on: Tue May 17, 2011 - 13:03:18 »
No I cant see what is wrong with that.

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« Reply #13 on: Tue May 17, 2011 - 14:31:02 »
Yes, I believe this is wrong. I don't believe there is anything wrong with wishing she would "see the light" and work on the marriage together. I believe it is wrong to ask her to be miserable. Why? because you are hurting a daughter of God. I understand you're very hurt as I was in the beginning of our separation but you need to realize God values here much more than you do. Also, if you're wishing harm (in this case unhappiness) on your wife, then it's very possible your prayers will be hindered because if you are wishing harm, you truly have not forgiven her and in turn God will not forgive your trespasses. I know how much it hurts and sucks, but we need to be strong during this time and pray for them.

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« Reply #14 on: Tue May 17, 2011 - 15:09:35 »
I see your point.  And yes this does suck.  I guess I don't really want her to be miserable, I just want her to miss me as much as I miss her.  And I'm miserable.  This is extremely hard.  I know that God loves her more than I do.  I just wish I could see and understand his plan.  I'm so lonely.  Its hard going from having someone to come home to everyday to hug and kiss and hold. Then one day I go home and there is no one home except a note on the table, and now I go home to an empty house every night.  And its about to be even barer since she plans to send movers to the house to get the furniture out.

lol this sounds horrible but its how I feel.  I know God is there for me, but i miss the physical and emotional bond with my wife.  Please continue to pray that I have the wisdom, strength and understanding to endure this suffering. And that God will let her "see the light" and bring her home.

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« Reply #15 on: Tue May 17, 2011 - 15:27:21 »
If she is out of Gods will, she will end up miserable anyway, so cant see the harm in praying that she will miss you.

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« Reply #16 on: Wed May 18, 2011 - 19:43:23 »
I got an email today from her.........an email.... She said

"I just don't see any good coming from meeting.... We are getting a divorce and strong each other will only make things worse."


THROUGH EMAIL???? REALLY??????

I am not responding to this. I refuse to handle this through email.  But I am deeply hurt and so disappointed that she is this immature.  This person she has become is not the person I married and is not the person that I want to be married to right now.  Please pray that God changes or softens her heart.  I am totally confused and lost.  I have been praying that he show me what to do or let me know what to say.  I am asking anyone who reads this to please pray for our restoration.  I do not believe in divorce without an attempt at reconciliation.  She wont even give us a chance to go to counseling or anything.

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« Reply #17 on: Thu May 19, 2011 - 07:34:10 »
I have been praying so hard for God to change her heart and to show her His way. I believe that divorce is definitely not the answer here.
But I cant help to think that while I am praying, I am not truly focusing on Him, but rather on Him fixing my marriage.   I am just trying to figure out how to totally give control to God.

How do I walk by the Spirit and not the flesh?  I feel that I am obsessed  and worry too much about this divorce rather than trusting in God to let Him do His work in both of us to restore our marriage.  I want to totally trust in Him and believe that He will and can save my marriage. But I keep worrying about this whole situation.

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« Reply #18 on: Thu May 19, 2011 - 09:59:28 »
Could you try, every time this comes into your mind, Just saying "Thank you God that all of this is in your hands, and that no matter what happens, you want the best for me" or something similar?

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« Reply #19 on: Thu May 19, 2011 - 10:47:01 »
Jeremiah 24:7
I will give them a heart to know me, that I am the LORD. They will be my people, and I will be their God, for they will return to me with all their heart.

hopeful, what is helping me the most, is that I think of my wife as a "prodigal" someone out there in the wilderness searching for something that they are not entirely sure of. Most people when they enter into marriage really do intend for better or worse, but because of sin and hardness of our hearts, we simply "forget" for lack of a better word that it is a covenant between husband/wife and God almighty. However, when people separate the world tells us to "give them time" instead, what do you have to lose? Go after them. Love covers a multitude of sins is what the bible says. If you're already near divorce, maybe they just want to feel a little love? I've been sending gifts to my wife while apart and her heart seems to be softening.

Always, remember, prodigals DO come home!! The question is do you have the patience to wait on the Lord?


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« Reply #20 on: Thu May 19, 2011 - 10:58:19 »
saved by blood

We do need to accept that sometimes Christian marriages do end because one spouse has heardened their heart, has dug their heels in and and not all do come to their senses before they have ended the marriage. I have seen this happen in several marriages around me. Lovely believers whose husbands/wives have chosen the wrong path and thrown the marriage away.So sad.
I hope that this marriage doesnt end this way. Sadly not all prodigals do return home, but some do, so while the marriage is still legally valid there is always hope.

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« Reply #21 on: Thu May 19, 2011 - 11:04:28 »
saved by blood

We do need to accept that sometimes Christian marriages do end because one spouse has heardened their heart, has dug their heels in and and not all do come to their senses before they have ended the marriage. I have seen this happen in several marriages around me. Lovely believers whose husbands/wives have chosen the wrong path and thrown the marriage away.So sad.
I hope that this marriage doesnt end this way. Sadly not all prodigals do return home, but some do, so while the marriage is still legally valid there is always hope.

Yes, but IMO divorce is only papers when it comes to God. It doesn't end what God's plan is. Personally, I heard a testimony of someone who was considered a "prodigal" for 10 years, his wife faithfully waited and prayed and stood on the promises of God, They are celebrating 30 years later their fully restored and whole marriage. Personally, I believe if there is one person having hope for their marriage than there is still a chance of reconciliation at least until the other is remarried than obviously it's over.
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« Reply #22 on: Thu May 19, 2011 - 12:12:11 »
 HI Savedby blood, God always seems to recognise a divorce as the ending of a marriage. Of course He doesn't want marriages to end this way, but he does recognise it when they do. The story of the women at the well shows this, when Jesus recognises all of her marriages as being marriages and all of her husband as having been her husbands, therefore her divorces as having ended the previous marriage.
 
When my husbands ex was starting divorce proceedings, God told him that she had dug her heels in and wasn't going to budge. Basically I think He was saying that he wasn't to fight it but to allow her to have her way.Not that there is much that you can do about it anyway if that is what one spouse wants.
I know a lovely Christian lady whose husband left her for another woman. She prayed and believed for 5 years that he would return, but once he started the divorce after that time, and it was completed, she know that was the end, and that she had to move on. Her life since then has taken off in amazing ways that never would have happened if she has carried on waiting for this man to return, even though they were no longer married.

Gods plans can carry on whatever happens in our lives, and He has good plans for us whether we are divorced or not. He knows what will happen anyway so nothing is a surprise to Him.

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« Reply #23 on: Fri May 20, 2011 - 09:08:14 »
I see both of your points. And I am trusting in God. But the only way that I have contact with her is through email.  And honestly I do not want to handle this through email. I think that we are both adults and we need to handle this maturely. 
So since she has informed me that we are getting a divorce, I haven't responded because I refuse to do this through email.  There is not other way that i can show love to her or go after her except pray to God that he will touch and change her heart.  I believe that she is trying to find a church to go through and I think that she is reading her bible. She took her bible with her when she left. So its hard for me to understand why this is coming from her.  If she is reading Gods word and she is praying, why does she keep going forward with this separation and telling me that she wants a divorce?

Only God knows.  I believe that satan has some hold on her that is clouding her thoughts and keeping her from seeing Gods truth and perspective of restoring and renewing our marriage.

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« Reply #24 on: Fri May 20, 2011 - 10:20:50 »
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If she is reading Gods word and she is praying, why does she keep going forward with this separation and telling me that she wants a divorce?

Because, my dear brother, a divorce is WHAT SHE WANTS.  When people WANT something, it really doesn't matter too much to them what God says.  That is, unless what God says is also what they want.

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I believe that satan has some hold on her that is clouding her thoughts and keeping her from seeing Gods truth and perspective of restoring and renewing our marriage.

Well, you can delude yourself into thinking that if you want, but in reality, satan only has power in our lives over things we give him power over.   The same is true for God.  He does not break our will in order to perform His work.

People ALWAYS act in a manner which is consistent with their desires.  Your wife's thoughts are not "clouded".  They are consistent with her desire to be OUT of her marriage.  And, because she wants to be out, she is not submitting to God, nor His "truth and perspective" because HER "truth and perspective" is not the same as His.

Reading God's word and praying are two things which are very good for christians to do.  And, christians should do them both regularly, if that is possible.  However, no amount of reading nor praying will bring someone's life into accordance with God's will.  This is done by repentance and submission.  By understanding that God wants me to have the best possible life, and that His "truth and perspective" is
made FOR ME to do just that.



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« Reply #25 on: Sat May 21, 2011 - 18:17:37 »
Just wanted to say thank you for all the replies. I appreciate being able to talk to someone when I have no one to talk to.  Please continue to pray for my marriage. Thanks again.

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« Reply #26 on: Sun May 22, 2011 - 21:05:08 »
Hopeful1, I can relate to what you are going through. My wife of 11 years left me about three weeks ago. We have two beautiful children as well. She told me she doesnt love me anymore and is unhappy. I am still a mess over all of this. God has driven me to my knees and I cry out to him to restore our marriage. We have never had any problems at all, except allowing ourselves to grow appart. It hurts so bad. I love my wife deeply. She will not see a counselor ether, but I have been seeing a christian couselor. I have neglected her emotions and feelings and didnt realize this until her leaving. I have told her that this could be the best thing that ever happened to our marriage if we let it. It has really opened my eyes. The only thing that has helped me is staying close to God. I pray to him that he grants me peace in my heart. I pray that he touches her heart as well. That he turns her heart of stone into flesh. I will pray for you and your wife. God Bless

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« Reply #27 on: Tue May 24, 2011 - 12:30:04 »
     Thank you yelladog, I will be praying for you and your wife also.  I know that God can change hearts. I too have been seeing a christian counselor, and doing so helped me realize how I have also neglected my wife's needs. 
     Honestly I think that if this situation never happened, I would have never had the desire to seek Gods face and his grace.  This has been a real eye-opener. I saw that person that I was and I never want to go back there.  I know God have forgiven me after all the wrong things Ive done in my heart.  Ive always heard these things growing up in church but never understood them all till now. Even the most common story of Jesus dying on the cross for us.  This dude DIED...for me...for all of us.  I just thought about that this morning.  He shed his blood so that I can have a chance at everlasting life with Him in heaven.  His Holy Spirit is within me giving me the power to live by His word day to day.  I have always known this but I don't think that I really chose to believe it until this situation.
     I am not perfect at all, I still have my struggles but its a great feeling of having a God that lets me know when I'm doing the wrong things and that He loves me no matter what.  I wish my wife could see the things that I have been seeing. I wish she could feel the hope that I feel.  I believe that God can resurrect our marriage and save us from divorce and strengthen both of our desires to find Him and draw closer to Him.  And I know that drawing closer to Him will allow our love for each other to grow as our faith and trust in Him to strengthen our marriage increases. 
      I will definitely keep you and your wife in my prayers yelladog. Stay focused on God and never lose faith or sight of His blessing that He will give you for trusting in His will.

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Re: Wife has moved out
« Reply #28 on: Tue May 24, 2011 - 15:04:58 »
Thanks Hopeful1 For Keeping Us In Your Prayers and I will do the same for you. My God has also showed me how I have neglected my wife's needs. Tomorrow will be three weeks since my wife left. I do not see any reconciliation in the near future and only God knows. This has been the hardest thing I have ever dealt with. I'm starting to see it affecting my children. I'm starting to get very bitter over this. Today I was cleaning the house and came really close to packing her things and telling her to come get them, they will be in the driveway. I just asked God to soften my heart and he did. I have told my wife that this could be the BEST worst thing that ever happened to our marriage. She just doesn't say anything. I'm starting to really feel there's someone else. There usually is. She just doesn't seem to care and has made her mind up. Its just so hard to see how someone could basically give up half of there time with there children and that's what shes doing along with cutting my time with them in half. I truly believe some people love deeper than others. The feelings that I am having now are that she has abandoned our family as a whole. My counselor told me that its healthy to come to the point of being bitter and I have defiantly come to that point. Please continue to pray for us. Thank You

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« Reply #29 on: Tue May 24, 2011 - 19:43:22 »
So my heart is on the floor right now. I don't really have any information.  But I found out where she is getting her mail forwarded too and I drive by.  I didnt see my wife but I saw the other mans car....

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« Reply #30 on: Tue May 24, 2011 - 20:14:48 »
So sorry to here that. You are in my prayers. I know exactly how you feel.

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« Reply #31 on: Tue May 24, 2011 - 20:24:23 »
So my heart is on the floor right now. I don't really have any information.  But I found out where she is getting her mail forwarded too and I drive by.  I didnt see my wife but I saw the other mans car....

hopeful1,

Don't do that to yourself!

You can't make her do anything. Whatever she is going to do, she will do it whether you are there or not.

Praying works the best. once my ex hurt me with the other man. The next few hours she was cleaning up her apartment, it flooded. To me, it was a sign that God cared. She was even a little more gentle with her words after that.

Another time she was mean to me, her car got broken into, none of our kids stuff was taken, just her's. Vengeance is not yours. Your job is to give blessings for curses and to love your enemy, which right now is your wife.

Looking at her facebook, spying on her or driving by her place is not what God would have you to do. Please don't torture yourself. I've done it and it only makes things worse exponentially.

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« Reply #32 on: Tue May 24, 2011 - 23:19:08 »
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Please don't torture yourself. I've done it and it only makes things worse exponentially.

This is very good advice. And, I want to add, that if your wife's heart is set in her to do this evil, you cannot "check up" enough or in enough different ways to stop her.  If she wants to hide it from you, she will, if she doesn't care, she won't.

Like the previous poster says, all it does is torture YOU and does nothing to her.

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« Reply #33 on: Wed May 25, 2011 - 07:21:20 »
Your job is to give blessings for curses and to love your enemy, which right now is your wife.

this is so hard to do right now. I feel nothing but anger and hurt right now. Im angry at myself, at her, at God, that guy.  I dont even know if I want this marriage right now.  I love her but its hard for me to want to be married to her right now.  But I feel angry at God for the messages of hope that I keep getting, and then something bad happens and all that hope goes down the drain.  Its like Im being played with.  Please pray for me I dont want to feel like this.  I am trying my best to not lose faith but its hard.

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« Reply #34 on: Wed May 25, 2011 - 08:45:16 »
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Its like Im being played with.

Well, maybe you are being played with.  Not that God is doing so, but His enemy is pretty crafty when it comes to this.

I just read this quote in another thread from a poster's signature:

Satan is not fighting churches; he is joining them. He does more harm by sowing tares than by pulling up wheat. He accomplishes more by imitation
than by outright opposition. ~Vance Havner

What a great old preacher !!  I hadn't thought about him in a while, but he sure had his (wonderful) influence on me.

Do yourself a big favor.  When somebody tells you "God can do it" and all these half-truths, ignore it.  Look instead at the FACTS.  See, if anything "is God",
it JIVES with the facts.  Otherwise, you are going to stay on an emotional roller-coaster ride of anger one minute, depression the next.

It is indeed true that God "can".  But, it is also true that sometimes, He doesn't.  The Apostle Paul's "thorn in the flesh" is a clear illustration of it.  The man at the pool of Bethesda had been there for 38 years.  Also, the bible does not say whether Jesus healed anyone else at the pool.  But it does give the detail that others made it into the pool before him.  So it is reasonable to infer that there were others who either received no healing or waited for a long time for it like this man.


 

     
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