Assuming there is no difference between "acceptable" and "not sinful."
I used the word acceptable
becuase of the way you worded your statement when you said:
I think in a committed, monogamous, equitable relationship it might NOT be sin.
Now let me be clear based on God's view if mankind lying with a man as he would as woman that it is both UNACCEPTABLE and ABOMINATION in HIS SIGHT. Since it is an abomination in the sight of God, it is sinful and unacceptable, and against nature~PEROID~ Man's opinions are worthless and vain, in this matter being of this world, thereby devilish. To believe otherwise is to show that one has a reprobate mind.
Begging the question.
Your words after I said:
which is clearly against the word of God,
So, you believe that I have made a conclusion based on a premise that lacks support? Well, it does IF Miss
Elton John is your lover and the humanistic society in which we live is your god...both of which are an abomination according to THE Creator God of this world.
Nice application of prejudicial assumption. However, predictably, you have things bass-ackwards. My increasing realization of the inapplicability of the Obsolete Covenant and its Law came first.
I'am very predictably just as you said....I BELIEVE GOD'S testimony and live by every word of it. Not perfectly, but with all of God children refuse to close my eyes to God's commandments in preference for my own ways and desires that the scriptures clearly condemns.
Listen to the "slug calling a worm slimey"~I give God's word, and you give.....what? Nothing more
than your own prejudicial assumptions, based own your wicked lust coming from your reprobate mind.
My increasing realization of the inapplicability of the Obsolete Covenant
I'm not under the abolished Law of the Obsolete Covenant, so I'm going to go ahead and snip that portion.
After I said:
The price of a dog is a price of a sodomite, that Israel was not allowed to bring into the house of God. Deuteronomy 23:18~"Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a dog, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these are an abomination unto the LORD thy God." The analogy of a sodomite and a dog is quite obvious to anyone who I've been around dogs checking out other dogs! We have many scriptures where do you desire to start to defend your wicked belief that you stated above?
I'm sure all sodomites are easily converted when it comes to the totally abolishing of the OT scriptures. The laws of God in the OT that has to do with morality and love toward God and neighbor are ROYAL LAWS that are eternal laws governing our thoughts and deeds toward God and man. Many scriptures in the NT will support this.
Saints are dead to the law through the body of Jesus Christ as far as seeking our justification through the law of works
, that said... THIS DO and LIVE sin and DIE. Yet every person OUTSIDE of Jesus Christ are under the law...under the law of God as their ONLY hope of life~under its curse....eternal CONDEMNATION through Adam. Saints are NO LONGER under the condemnation of the law through Christ's perfect obedience for them. There is no standard of righteousness higher than the laws of God summed up in ten commandments given to Moses. They ARE our rule of righteousness to live by, and ALL saints delight in them and serve them, even though imperfectly because of sin within our members, yet, the love for them is there. Romans chapter seven.
Enough for now.
I have directly acknowledged already that certain passages of the NT directly condemn homosexuality.
New or OT, speaks STRONGLY against the wicked sin of Sodomy, and wicked it is. By saying that, I'm NOT saying that other sins are not wicked, for they are, yet Sodomy is right there as one of the most abominable sins that man can commit against the reveal will of God, who created us, with the purpose to procreate a godly seed between a man and a woman. If the NT directly condemns Sodomy, why would you find it acceptable, and still consider yourself a Christian? You are deceiving yourself, maybe the worst of all deceptions, and the hardest to overcome.
You seem to be of the view that merely citing passages from the Bible makes a belief "biblical," and therefore sufficient.
I do not seem to be
, I DO stand ONLY upon the scriptures~Jesus Christ said that man shall not live by bread alone, but by EVERY WORD that comes from God's mouth, I labor to do just that, and you would be wise to do the same.
I see my own position as "biblical," since I see the only operative Commandment to be "Love one another" or "Love your neighbor as yourself," and do not see any reason why homosexual love is, in and of itself, a violation of that.
Just as I said above...true biblical love is based upon the teachings of God's word. If God's word condemns something as a sin, then we MUST do likewise, of we are NOT loving God or our neighbour. I gave:
Leviticus 19:17~"Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him."
When we refuse to speak out against what God's condemns, then we are showing hatred NOT love~ be not deceived by that lie of Satan. A lesson that our children learn later in life when they have children and have to correct them~the Lord correct those he loves, and so do we.
Am I supposed to deny what I see in Scripture, or pretend I see something I don't?
do not see any reason why homosexual love is, in and of itself, a violation of that
Sodomy love is LUST, not love! And it is wicked. Yours, and my opinion does not count, what does the word of God say, is what matters.
Romans 1:24-27~"Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."
God does NOT call it love, but wicked LUST, working that which is unseemly.