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What do you think Christian men struggle with the most?
« on: Wed Mar 23, 2016 - 16:18:57 »
Hey there,

I'm a Bible teacher who serves Christian men (age 25-44) at my church. I'm in the process of creating a new Bible study series in order to address the problems and pains that Christian men struggle with everyday. This forum seems like a good place to get feedback from other Christian men outside my church circle.

So, what do you as a Christian man struggle with the most? 

- anger
- porn addiction
- the sin and trap of lust
- constantly losing your faith
- thriving to be a Godly man against a sinful world/feminism
- finding the right Godly woman (that will lead to marriage)
- masturbation
- abstaining from sex until marriage (fornication)
- being a spiritual leader


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Re: What do you think Christian men struggle with the most?
« Reply #1 on: Wed Mar 23, 2016 - 16:38:51 »
Hey there,

I'm a Bible teacher who serves Christian men (age 25-44) at my church. I'm in the process of creating a new Bible study series in order to address the problems and pains that Christian men struggle with everyday. This forum seems like a good place to get feedback from other Christian men outside my church circle.

So, what do you as a Christian man struggle with the most? 

- anger
- porn addiction
- the sin and trap of lust
- constantly losing your faith
- thriving to be a Godly man against a sinful world/feminism
- finding the right Godly woman (that will lead to marriage)
- masturbation
- abstaining from sex until marriage (fornication)
- being a spiritual leader


I would answer "Christian women" but that would be too easy.



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Re: What do you think Christian men struggle with the most?
« Reply #2 on: Wed Mar 23, 2016 - 16:40:14 »
Astrology?

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Re: What do you think Christian men struggle with the most?
« Reply #3 on: Wed Mar 23, 2016 - 16:50:33 »
Astrology?

I personally can't stand astrology, T.C.

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Re: What do you think Christian men struggle with the most?
« Reply #4 on: Wed Mar 23, 2016 - 18:59:17 »
Hey there,

I'm a Bible teacher who serves Christian men (age 25-44) at my church. I'm in the process of creating a new Bible study series in order to address the problems and pains that Christian men struggle with everyday. This forum seems like a good place to get feedback from other Christian men outside my church circle.

So, what do you as a Christian man struggle with the most? 

- anger
- porn addiction
- the sin and trap of lust
- constantly losing your faith
- thriving to be a Godly man against a sinful world/feminism
- finding the right Godly woman (that will lead to marriage)
- masturbation
- abstaining from sex until marriage (fornication)
- being a spiritual leader

I'm 20. I could say findingg the right Godly woman that would lead to marriage. In my case, virginity is a deal breaker. Meeting women which aren't what I look for make me lose my temper. I don't lose my faith, instead I just feel forgotten. Abstaining from sex hasn't been a problem to me, I was taught that you shouldn't do anything that you wouldn't want your wife to do, so that kept me pure during my teen years.

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Re: What do you think Christian men struggle with the most?
« Reply #5 on: Wed Mar 23, 2016 - 20:03:35 »
Hey Alma1995...thank you for your feedback.

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Re: What do you think Christian men struggle with the most?
« Reply #6 on: Wed Mar 23, 2016 - 21:08:44 »
In my experience it's inadequacy. Feeling like you can't measure up as a man, not good enough for a chick you're interested in, not strong enough or skilled enough for your job or to protect your family, not courageous enough, not enough finance or sex appeal... etc. A guy wanna feels respect, admired, wanted, he wanna feel like a man. So it's hard when he can't even feel that way about himself. Heck even with a godly man, inadequacies about following the Lord or measuring up to the standard of what a man is to Him. Heck, many of what you listed can go back to that.

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Re: What do you think Christian men struggle with the most?
« Reply #7 on: Fri Mar 25, 2016 - 15:54:10 »
Hey there,

I'm a Bible teacher who serves Christian men (age 25-44) at my church. I'm in the process of creating a new Bible study series in order to address the problems and pains that Christian men struggle with everyday. This forum seems like a good place to get feedback from other Christian men outside my church circle.

So, what do you as a Christian man struggle with the most? 

- anger
- porn addiction
- the sin and trap of lust
- constantly losing your faith
- thriving to be a Godly man against a sinful world/feminism
- finding the right Godly woman (that will lead to marriage)
- masturbation
- abstaining from sex until marriage (fornication)
- being a spiritual leader


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Re: What do you think Christian men struggle with the most?
« Reply #8 on: Wed Mar 30, 2016 - 17:30:01 »
I think being a spiritual leader. Men aren't normally mushy and sometimes feel silly when praying outloud.

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Re: What do you think Christian men struggle with the most?
« Reply #9 on: Wed Mar 30, 2016 - 18:12:35 »
Good answer. How about feeling mixed messages from everyone including the church. One minute it's greedy to want to earn more income, the next the church is wanting money for a building program, missions and what not and wanting you to come up with more money....and your family is needing things and wanting things.

So I guess would be the struggle of being the provider.

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Re: What do you think Christian men struggle with the most?
« Reply #10 on: Thu Jun 30, 2016 - 10:26:14 »
honestly, I currently struggle with all of them

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Re: What do you think Christian men struggle with the most?
« Reply #11 on: Fri Jul 01, 2016 - 08:32:11 »
i would teach men how a man should act in a relationship with God.  if all men knew who they were in God and what to expect then it can allow them to break free of the problems you listed above.  knowing who we are in Christ and the power and authority that is given because we are saved is enough to beat any problem set against us. 

why should we concentrate on a problem when we should be concentrating on the solution?  if God is our solution then shouldn't we teach about God all the problems will solve themselves? 

teach on God's power, authority, faith, love, and ect.  everything else will solve itself when we put our trust, faith, and our lives in God's hand.

i hope this gave you some ideas. 

God bless

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Re: What do you think Christian men struggle with the most?
« Reply #12 on: Fri Sep 09, 2016 - 02:20:18 »
Paying the bills , like any other man.   rofl

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Re: What do you think Christian men struggle with the most?
« Reply #13 on: Thu Aug 10, 2017 - 11:02:41 »
Hey there,

I'm a Bible teacher who serves Christian men (age 25-44) at my church. I'm in the process of creating a new Bible study series in order to address the problems and pains that Christian men struggle with everyday. This forum seems like a good place to get feedback from other Christian men outside my church circle.

So, what do you as a Christian man struggle with the most? 

- anger
- porn addiction
- the sin and trap of lust
- constantly losing your faith
- thriving to be a Godly man against a sinful world/feminism
- finding the right Godly woman (that will lead to marriage)
- masturbation
- abstaining from sex until marriage (fornication)
- being a spiritual leader


IMO, one problem within the churches is Phariseeism.  What I mean by Phariseeism is our religious traditions of man that expand upon Yah's (God) actual law.

The Law specifically dictates what is forbidden as sin.  The church tends to put a fence around what is actually forbidden and include additional things close that may also be sin in some's opinion.  Then they attack anyone that violates their additions to the law as being in sin.  This is exactly what the Pharisees did to Yeshua.  They attacked Him for allowing His disciples to grab grain and eat it on the Sabbath while they walked between cities.  According to the Rabbi's, you could not walk more then so many steps on Sabbath or pick any grain or separate it from the chaff because those acts were WORK which was forbidden on the Sabbath.  They ADDED to Yah's law by their own rules and traditions.

Granted, Yeshua called those Pharisees 'a nest of vipers' and 'children of their father the devil' for those attacks when He was actually following the written law but disagreed with their interpretation of the law.

Here is a few examples of the problems of Phariseeism within the church.  Example's of sexual sin are easiest to see.

Fornication is defined in Hebrew as 'unlawful intercourse' while the modern church defines it as 'any premarital sexual contact'.  In the law, premarital sex is NEVER forbidden.  As a matter of fact, sex with your betrothed was absolutely allowed.  Mary and Joseph is an example.  Why wasn't Mary stoned if she was pregnant?  The betrothal was the beginning of the covenant.  Sex with a non-virgin was also allowed.  It was called taking a concubine.  It is our puritanical traditions of man that have added to the actual law, expanding upon it and changing the definition of the words.

Another example is our modern concept of adultery.  The modern church defines it as cheating on your spouse while it is very specifically defined in the Hebrew very differently.  In the Law, sex with another man's betrothed or wife was adultery for a man.  It has NOTHING to do with a man's marital status.  There was no such thing as 'cheating on a wife'.  Men were allowed multiple wives and concubines under the law.  Again it is our modern society that has redefined the term.  For a women, it was adultery to have any sex with any man other then the one she was in covenant with as his wife or concubine.  Women were limited to a single partner at a time.  Men were not.

There were also exceptions to the sexual law like the Levirate rights of a childless widow.  It was LAWFUL for her to engage is sex with a relative of her dead husband to obtain an heir that could inherit his property since a woman could not do so.  Tamar and Ruth are examples.  It wasn't required to become a wife, but sex was allowed for the sake of a son to inherit.

The modern church calls a couple that are living together without a legal wedding as 'living in sin' whereas scripture does NOT equate that as sin but those that attack them as being 'a nest of vipers' and 'children of their father the devil'.

The law also states that any man that takes a woman's virginity is required to marry her.  The sin in this case was against her father for not having permission to become betrothed.  Of course our modern day church would try to keep the couple apart instead of insisting on them staying together to 'prevent them from being in sin'.  In that case, keeping them apart is the sin by forcing them to violate Yah's law.

Sexual examples are easiest to expose and considering you listed many of them as major problems for men where they are not actual sin according to the law.

So IMO, one of the biggest problems faced by men is 'False Teachers' that teach modern day Phariseeism within the churches.  Men operate as 'meddlesome busybodies' in the matters of other men's lives accusing them of sin that doesn't exist.  Scripture ranks that right up there with 'murderers, thieves and evil doers'.

1Pe 4:15  But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men’s matters.

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Re: What do you think Christian men struggle with the most?
« Reply #14 on: Sun Feb 11, 2018 - 10:42:30 »
Hey there,

I'm a Bible teacher who serves Christian men (age 25-44) at my church. I'm in the process of creating a new Bible study series in order to address the problems and pains that Christian men struggle with everyday. This forum seems like a good place to get feedback from other Christian men outside my church circle.

So, what do you as a Christian man struggle with the most? 

- anger
- porn addiction
- the sin and trap of lust
- constantly losing your faith
- thriving to be a Godly man against a sinful world/feminism
- finding the right Godly woman (that will lead to marriage)
- masturbation
- abstaining from sex until marriage (fornication)
- being a spiritual leader


Leadership.

Christian leadership and especially educational opportunities are squandered by leadership in a mad rush to garner donation$.

Jesus didn't spend hours lecturing his followers on the necessity to commit funds to tithing.  He lectured on discipleship.   

It is more important to the Kingdom of Heaven to have a mere twelve well educated and dedicated followers than a thousand.   Jesus led by example.

Why do most Christian leaders NOT follow this example?

Where is solid Christian education?   Instead of something with meat on the bone, adult education if it exists at all is little more than middle school level milk toast with an adult label.   It isn't geared for the adult mind.  Such courses are usually filled with slogans and buzz words - not education at all but mere reiteration of religious trivia.

What do most Christian men struggle with most?

Competent adult leadership.

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Re: What do you think Christian men struggle with the most?
« Reply #15 on: Wed Jun 27, 2018 - 22:40:16 »
I struggle with a few of these, they're hard and the world is against us. BUT the real problem underlying them is an issue many of us guys have with authority.

Here's my little take on that:
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Re: What do you think Christian men struggle with the most?
« Reply #16 on: Thu Jun 28, 2018 - 03:51:17 »
 anger~Yes that's always a problem, more so for younger men than older.

- porn addiction~No, if they struggle with porn, then they have a serious problem, very serious.
 
- the sin and trap of lust~I would say yes with lust of the world which would include many areas

- constantly losing your faith~Never

- thriving to be a Godly man against a sinful world/feminism~Especially so in our day.

- finding the right Godly woman (that will lead to marriage)~Yes, maybe the top of the list for BOTH male and females.
 
- masturbation~Yes, especially so for younger males.

- abstaining from sex until marriage (fornication)~Yes, maybe the hardest.

- being a spiritual leader~that's a battle that will last until death being a spiritual leader, because of the temptations to just give up because of battle with teens, wives, and children going into adult life thinking their way is much better than their father's.... and the world around you are against such leader.

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Re: What do you think Christian men struggle with the most?
« Reply #17 on: Thu Jun 28, 2018 - 07:51:29 »
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Re: What do you think Christian men struggle with the most?
« Reply #18 on: Tue Jul 03, 2018 - 15:53:07 »
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I personally can't stand astrology, T.C.

Me too.  When I was teaching, I used to tell the kids when they asked about it, that I was a Gemini, and Geminis don't believe in Astrology.

Once, I had several who were adamant that astrology was true, because they followed their horoscopes and they were always spot on.   

So I suggested, that since it was a science class, we should do an experiment.   I asked for all of them to submit their birthdays with their names, and I would do a horoscope for each of them, and we could see how well it fit.

They liked that.   So we did it.

A few days later, I handed them out, telling them to not let anyone see theirs.    I had a place for them to mark how well it fit.

Most of them were surprised how well it fit them.    Then I told them to hand it to another student next to them, so they could rate how it fit the student for whom I did it.

At that point, they discovered that I had given every one of them the same horoscope.   ::smile::
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Re: What do you think Christian men struggle with the most?
« Reply #19 on: Tue Jul 03, 2018 - 15:58:35 »
Horoscope:

"The past year has been somewhat stressful for you, but it appears that next year might be a better one.   Your efforts to make things better are about to pay off.
You are not always a hard worker and sometimes, are even lazy, but you are willing to work very hard to get something you really want.
You wouldn't mind having more friends, but you are unwilling to compromise what you believe in, just to fit in."


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Re: What do you think Christian men struggle with the most?
« Reply #20 on: Wed Sep 18, 2019 - 13:43:00 »
Hey there,

I'm a Bible teacher who serves Christian men (age 25-44) at my church. I'm in the process of creating a new Bible study series in order to address the problems and pains that Christian men struggle with everyday. This forum seems like a good place to get feedback from other Christian men outside my church circle.

So, what do you as a Christian man struggle with the most? 

- anger
- porn addiction
- the sin and trap of lust
- constantly losing your faith
- thriving to be a Godly man against a sinful world/feminism
- finding the right Godly woman (that will lead to marriage)
- masturbation
- abstaining from sex until marriage (fornication)
- being a spiritual leader


You don't need a Bible study.   You need counseling.   Big difference.

Bible study is for people who want to argue the fine points of scripture in a scholarly fashion.

Counseling is for individuals who have problems.

For example, if you're having problems with marital infidelity should you seek a private counselor or should you wash your dirty laundry in a classroom?

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Re: What do you think Christian men struggle with the most?
« Reply #21 on: Fri Aug 13, 2021 - 07:44:12 »
Hey there,

I'm a Bible teacher who serves Christian men (age 25-44) at my church. I'm in the process of creating a new Bible study series in order to address the problems and pains that Christian men struggle with everyday. This forum seems like a good place to get feedback from other Christian men outside my church circle.

So, what do you as a Christian man struggle with the most? 

- anger
- porn addiction
- the sin and trap of lust
- constantly losing your faith
- thriving to be a Godly man against a sinful world/feminism
- finding the right Godly woman (that will lead to marriage)
- masturbation
- abstaining from sex until marriage (fornication)
- being a spiritual leader


My answer and my greatest issue with Christians today isn't on your list.

Biblical illiteracy is the single greatest problem with Christians today.   
An additional topic might be ignorance of historic events and issues during Biblical times and how they impact interpretation of scripture.

I have encountered a tremendous amount of deliberate stubborn stupidity on the part of Christians.  I have lived long on the earth and have discovered I can endure significant amounts of physical pain, but I cannot suffer fools.   Very few Christians exercise their cranial muscles and try to STUDY TO SHOW THEMSELVES APPROVED.   The rest of these idiots seem to think the Holy Spirit alone will be their teacher and instructor.  As a result they either never attend middle school level adult Bible studies or assume their opinions add weight to an already bankrupt presentation. 

God is NOT interested in our opinions. It is our duty to find and follow God's will in our lives.  That doesn't happen when we don't know how to discover His will - or assume our will is all that matters in the Kingdom of Heaven (this is called Humanism and is the bane of true spirituality).

Humans do NOT learn by osmosis, as was told to me in elementary school many times.  I seriously doubt other Christians didn't hear the same axiom, but in fact they act as though they have not heard it.  The Holy Spirit will guide the sincere student toward effective and accurate Biblical studies AS TAUGHT BY QUALIFIED AND CERTIFIED INSTRUCTORS and documents, but will also abandon those who think they already know it all.

A major portion of the Bible that is deliberately ignored by protestant Christians is the Old Testament - Torah (the LAW), prophets and the Writings otherwise known as Tanakh.  Failure to acquire an adequate understanding of the LAW and prophets and Writings will result in anomalous dogma and doctrines of demons.   The church today is riddled with the cancer of false doctrine, but has no way to rectify the situation. 

No one can be saved apart from the LAW, yet few will understand this spiritual principle or the worldly traditions that opposes it.  (I refer here not to Jewish tradition that won't save, but also to Christian traditions that won't save - Santa Claus, Easter bunny, Halloween gouls witches vampires and profitable pumpkin sales all of which the church approves.)

My list includes the fact NOBODY is taught HOW to study scripture.   Biblical studies isn't limited to internet YouTube videos with talking heads, memorization of selected scripture texts, or middle school level presentations of non-canonical aberrant church doctrines.

2 Timothy 2:15 is one of the most memorized and least applied scripture text in the church today.

Proof of this is THE LACK of participation in this thread.

Christianity has become a plastic religion and the bane of humanity.   

It has lost its salt and the spirit has departed from it.  (1 Sam 4:21)  Several major denominations have already made public statements that DENY the Bible as God's Holy Word.   How bad does it have to get before Christians "get it"?   I'm here to say its pretty bad and doubt ever will.  They won't because Christians now believe stupidity is a virtue.

It isn't.

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Re: What do you think Christian men struggle with the most?
« Reply #22 on: Fri Nov 26, 2021 - 08:11:41 »
Hey there,

I'm a Bible teacher who serves Christian men (age 25-44) at my church. I'm in the process of creating a new Bible study series in order to address the problems and pains that Christian men struggle with everyday. This forum seems like a good place to get feedback from other Christian men outside my church circle.

So, what do you as a Christian man struggle with the most? 

- anger
- porn addiction
- the sin and trap of lust
- constantly losing your faith
- thriving to be a Godly man against a sinful world/feminism
- finding the right Godly woman (that will lead to marriage)
- masturbation
- abstaining from sex until marriage (fornication)
- being a spiritual leader


You're a Bible teacher and don't know what men struggle with most?  Your list tells us what's on YOUR mind - sex.

It's impossible to even think about approaching spiritual matters as long as sexual issues are foremost.  Prior to marriage sex is forbidden.  After marriage sex is regulated.  Paul writes that the man or the woman ought not withhold sex from their marital partner.   Unfortunately sex is often used as a weapon.  Biblical standards are thrown by the wayside and nobody really cares what scripture recommends - especially the women.  Was it not Eve who sinned first? (see Genesis 3)

Not on your list is MONEY.

Ask any marriage counselor and they'll tell you that apart from sex MONEY is a major issue of contention in a marriage.  Who controls the purse strings, the man or the woman?  According to statistics, very few exercise control over their finances.   Debt is the major issue because what we want is often foremost in our consideration rather than what we can afford.  There are two family issues not addressed by churches.  MONEY is foremost and sex is a side issue.   Few want to talk openly about sex even in our 'enlightened' church societies.   MONEY problems are easier to talk about and often lead to sexual problems.   

Not on your list is WAR.

War is the major contributor to the erosion of America.  We seem to feel its our right to bomb and kill and destroy nations at will for no reason other than to expand our hegemony abroad.  We are paying the price for our bloodthirsty attitude.  We are blinded to the ways of peace because of our militaristic attitude.  No nation can practice war and peace at the same time.  Either it will build for the future or it will destroy the past.  Either way an investment must be made.  America prefers to kill and destroy rather than to build and grow.   We must address our predilection for war else it will consume what remains of a once great country.   Indeed, we are already subservient to foreign powers without realizing it.

Not on your list is ADDICTION.

Addictions are several; drugs, gambling, eating disorders, electronic diversions and idolatry.   The latter can take the form of sports addictions and more attention being paid to sports celebrities than to the Bible.  Everyone suspects electronic diversions are a problem, but few realize how it's eating away at our society like gangrene.  Eating disorders vary from obesity to anorexia.  For some reason church leaders feel they cannot address eating disorders when they speak to their congregations.  20% of Americans participate in buying and using illegal drugs.  Nobody addresses this issue from the pulpit.  Isn't is rather odd that two major industries in America refer to their customers as USERS; the drug culture and the computer business?

Not on your list is IGNORANCE and ILLITERACY.

According to the National Educational Foundation 21% of Americans are either functionally or completely illiterate.  54% of Americans have NO skills with regard to critical thinking.  Middle school and high school students across America claim, "it hurts to think".  This is our future? That means that about three-quarters of Americans function at or below the sixth grade level of competence.  This situation leaves our population open to erroneous Biblical interpretations (doctrines of demons) as well as political manipulation.   Because Americans value their opinion more highly than education, our country is circling the drain of history.   Because Christians are Biblically illiterate they do not concern themselves with God's eternal LAW apart from which no one can be saved.

Oh yes, there are many avenues of exploration one may explore in church education.  Unfortunately most really don't care to participate.  Most Christians prefer their religious slogans and buzz words to God's honest truth.  Most Christians today are fools.   Count the cars in the parking lot on Sunday and compare that number with Wednesday evening Bible study.  You will always find fewer cars at the educational meeting.   Why?   Because the garbage that's offered as source material is usually regurgitated false doctrine or boring material at the middle school level.  Most Christians think they "know it all" anyway. 

Nobody cares about sexual health.  They just want to DO IT.  Don't tell us God's plan for families.  Don't tell us women ought to OBEY their husbands and husbands ought to LOVE their wives (and I mean more than DOING IT with them). We know better than all the experts because we are gods unto ourselves.  Nobody really cares about the Almighty anyway.   He's just an obscure figurehead not worth a second thought - yet passive indifference is a matter of severe importance to HIM.  HE HATES IT.  Don't talk about eating disorders or drug addiction or political manipulation or WAR because we love those things and will not let go of them.  Don't talk to us about money.  Just demand your tithe, according to a LAW you deny, and leave us alone to wallow in our debt.  There's always another credit card to max out.

You have a lot of work to do, my friend.  Try to talk about something other than beating off.   You might get somewhere.

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Re: What do you think Christian men struggle with the most?
« Reply #23 on: Fri Nov 26, 2021 - 12:09:58 »
Still hollering?

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Re: What do you think Christian men struggle with the most?
« Reply #24 on: Sat Nov 27, 2021 - 05:46:16 »
No one can be saved apart from the LAW, yet few will understand this spiritual principle or the worldly traditions that opposes it. 
Come here and let us discuss this subject with you.

http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/theology/how-can-a-man-be-saved-for-sin-and-condemnation/

I'm convinced it is you that opposes the gospel of Jesus Christ for your love of "your works" of the law that you glory in over and above the obedience of ONE, God's only begotten Son in whom alone is he well pleased in. 

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Re: What do you think Christian men struggle with the most?
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Re: What do you think Christian men struggle with the most?
The worship of their own works above that of Jesus Christ. Everyone wants to be praised for something they have done~they love their works more than the perfect obedience of God's Son. They want to set themselves up with Jesus Christ as though they are important. 

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Christian women. ::smile::

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Re: What do you think Christian men struggle with the most?
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Re: What do you think Christian men struggle with the most?
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Re: What do you think Christian men struggle with the most?
« Reply #29 on: Fri Jan 14, 2022 - 08:18:08 »
I would answer "Christian women" but that would be too easy.

I think you are correct here, sir.   Not only Christian women, but pretty much most women over the age of twenty.

When young a woman can display youthful charm and a humble affectation.  These are attributes far more attractive than any jewel or costume.  When they get older women generally take on the attributes of men.  All they want to do is fight. 

....and then these older women wonder why men find young women more attractive....

It isn't the youthful appearance because many older women can make themselves quite good to look at...

Oh no, it's the desire of American women to ATTACK always, put the man on the defensive and ATTACK again until he is either permanently subdued (as a trained domestic) or removed from the equation by divorce or abandonment. 

When a man returns home from a hard day at work he wants peace and the comfort of knowing somebody in the world accepts him and his efforts.  He doesn't need to find a NAG waiting for him.  A man returns home from fighting all day and doesn't need another round or two of battle with his wife.  A man needs peace, but the women of America refuse to give it to him.  A man doesn't want to COMPETE in his own house.

What shall he do?  Shall he go to his male friends, who've been raised on competition with other males?  He will not find solace there.

How shall a man find peace in his house.   Perhaps it's better to live without a woman and just get a good dog instead.  A dog does not generally bite the hand that feeds it - as women are want to do.

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