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cs80918

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How do you deal with lust?
« on: September 03, 2010, 09:57:10 PM »
Something like 37% of pastors are addicted to porn.  That means many men in the churches must be dealing with the same thing.

Is this a struggle for you?  Not just porn, but lustful sexual images and thoughts.

I suggest everyone check out THE LIVING FREE  series by James Robinson and Robert Morris.

I have a feeling that the majority of christian men suffer defeat in this area, no wonder 50% of all chrisian marriages fail.

Many if not most people in any church are oppressed by some type of sin, I think the major reason for this is churches don't address it.  Also, most people don't want to admit the are so evil.

I admit it I need help and I'm working on improving through Jesus.  Pray for me and pray for the church.

I see that no men have responded, I know many of you are having problems dealing with lust too.
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Re: How do you deal with lust?
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2010, 07:47:36 PM »
Not Even A Hint - From Joshua Harris is a Great Resource As well!

xxxchurch is bold but a good site for help too

The hardest but best thing is Accountability partners.

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Re: How do you deal with lust?
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2010, 07:50:58 PM »
sometimes great, othertimes it is more than a struggle.   I try to remember that Jesus deserves better.  Gets easier with age - not because the ladies are any less attractive, but rather because of maturity.   Still, they ain't ugly....
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Re: How do you deal with lust?
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2010, 09:43:55 PM »
o forgot to add

every mans battle

is a good book too

or

every young mans battle

if you are younger
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Re: How do you deal with lust?
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2010, 10:17:15 PM »
Quote from: zoonance on September 05, 2010, 07:50:58 PM
sometimes great, othertimes it is more than a struggle.   I try to remember that Jesus deserves better.  Gets easier with age - not because the ladies are any less attractive, but rather because of maturity.   Still, they ain't ugly....

It is also easier with age, because most men's sexual desire begins to decrease. Also, the accumulation of past mistakes helps bring into remembrance the pain of disobedience in this area.

We wonder why there are thousands upon thousands of sexual predators in society.  The world entices men to lust after women and even many women entice men to lust after them.

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Re: How do you deal with lust?
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2010, 10:22:08 PM »
We allow our daughters to go on dates, we impulsive males and are shocked when bad things happen.

I as a male trust no male to behave if he was alone with my daughter.  I dare not put that much temptation in front of him.  I'm not going to sugar coat it, we are idiots if we do not protect the women in our lives from other men.

The bible says flee fornication, but we allow our daughters to be alone with a male who is not her husband?  That is encouraging sexual immorality, dramaticlly increasing the chances of assault.

There is no reason for non-married people to be alone.  None at all. 
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Re: How do you deal with lust?
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2010, 02:17:45 PM »
Actually, the number is higher in regards to grave sins committed by Pastors on a regular basis.  Idol worshipping, lust, greed, pride, unfaithfulness, misleading their congregation, being luke warm in their faith, etc.  The list goes on and on and on, most are at best, simply bible study teachers, the ones that are left are carrying the load that's far in excess to their abilities.

Turn off the TV, surround yourself with wholesome imagry, with scripture, with things not of the world, and keep your home as a safe haven from this twisted and warped world we are subject to, but don't be afraid to spread the gospel to all, in spite of where they are at and what they are exposed to.  The holy spirit will convict those who he chooses, and those who ask of him for freedom.  Be brutally honest with yourself, and see without obstruction.

Garbage in/Garbage out, bottom line here guys.  Never, I mean never take every word your pastor is saying as the bottom line, don't be afraid to question them, and if they shy away from answering you, toss them to the curb, there is no room for self interest if you are a pastor.
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Re: How do you deal with lust?
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2010, 10:06:45 PM »
The root of the porn issue, to my mind, is that it leads to a crap misogynist approach to women and sex. In theory, if it were possible to watch porn without going on to view women as sexual objects (and without supporting the often dreadful porn industry), there wouldn't be as much of an issue with it. I think that the real problem is the result of watching porn etc. rather than the act of doing so. I imagine that with the possible outcome in mind, it'd be easier to avoid it completely. I don't know how many people will agree with that or whatever. Would like to hear some thoughts.
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Re: How do you deal with lust?
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2010, 07:02:58 AM »
When I enter any store, I make a strong effort to avoid the candy aisle.  At my age, a giant size Milky Way is about as lustful a thought as I have....................  ::smile::
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Re: How do you deal with lust?
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2010, 10:19:38 AM »
Oh I can relate we must be of the same age group
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Re: How do you deal with lust?
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2010, 10:25:31 AM »
Habits...moods...addictions...never go by prayer...they go by KICKING the crap out of them the second they enter the mind.

When you do that...you will find that you did what you thought you could not.
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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2010, 10:14:28 PM »
Lust of the flesh. The lust of the eyes. How can we as frail humans overcome this? The one who believes Jesus is the Son of God overcomes the world-even our faith. But you dont want that answer? Give me something tangible right?. OOO! She's hot or OOO! He's hot. Just think! FLESH PERISHES! As written, God has made everything beautiful in its time. And God has subjected creation to decay. Overcome Lust by the easiest way-old wrinkly decrepid...getting the picture? Thats you in the mirror!!! Suppose your lust is craving food or anything else appealing. Too much even of a good thing is eventually bad for your health. The results of extravagance more often do not appear immediately but later on in life. The Lord gives us a Spirit of self discipline and we must be trained by it so that we might reap a harvest of righteousness overcoming the world and its desires by our faith. God has given us his very great and precious promises by which we might share in his divine nature and escape the corruption in the world caused by our desires. God's promises are his desires for us. We must walk in them just as Jesus walked in them. Ecclesiastes. Everything is meaningless. To fear God is to love God is the end of the matter.
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Re: How do you deal with lust?
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2010, 01:35:14 PM »
I would rather stock up on the Holy Spirit than join with a prostitute  ::sick::

1 Corinthians
6:13  "Foods for the belly, and the belly for foods," but God will bring to nothing both it and them. But the body is not for sexual immorality, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body.
6:14 Now God raised up the Lord, and will also raise us up by his power.
6:15 Don't you know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them members of a prostitute? May it never be!
6:16 Or don't you know that he who is joined to a prostitute is one body? For, "The two," says he, "will become one flesh."{Genesis 2:24}
6:17 But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit.
6:18 Flee sexual immorality! "Every sin that a man does is outside the body," but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.
6:19 Or don't you know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit which is in you, which you have from God? You are not your own,
6:20 for you were bought with a price. Therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God's.

I am annoyed by the fact that this passage is so seldom referenced in depth when visiting this subject.

Proverbs--6:26 For a prostitute reduces you to a piece of bread. The adulteress hunts for your precious life.

The prostitute turns YOU into an object. Where's that garbage about not treating women like objects  ::reading:: (in terms of this subject, at least)? Nah, can't find it. No help, so I forgot about it.

I think the reason men (allegedly, at least) stumble with sexual immorality more than women is that we are simply not taught self-respect in the same way. Isn't my body fearfully and wonderfully made, bought to be the temple of the Holy Spirit? Shouldn't I spend my energies drinking and filling myself up with that, and not the filthy prostitute who attempts to objectify me?

But it's telling that you almost never hear these things taught to men.

Oh, and I don't listen to most women on this issue. 90% of the time they complain about men's lust issues out of their own insecurities and any actual concern for men's well-being is WAY on the back burner, if it's even there at all. This is very important, because such women are probably a large reason why the message of sexual purity has been so badly distorted from scripture.

Anyway, I don't really get fixated on "lust." I just don't think about it. I'm not the biggest people-person anyway, but there are lots of women out there that have a sort of "attractiveness" that only has the potential to be attractive for the wrong reasons. I'm on my own business, and I know self-respect. I wasn't warned or taught to do this correctly, but thankfully I had the help of scripture with this one.
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Re: How do you deal with lust?
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2010, 06:22:00 AM »
It is difficult to keep the balance here.

Prostitutes are mainly driven into this by men, especially young women now predominantly traded through East Europe. They have an extreme view of men, often because men use them, to make money, for sex. Most Prostitutes have suffered physical violence by the man supposedly paying for the sex. The majority of the men are married, and living double lives, instead of having a discussion with their wives.

Men do need scripture and do need to Love God, part of the problem is too much self esteem, being centred on self and not others, and how they feel.

In regards to dating, if you talk to your daughters, and explain to them as they are becoming aware of men, if they feel safe talking to you, and re-assured that you wont judge, it will usually be fine. Many promiscous women, are the result of over protective families. It is about working out the timing of when they leave. Because our children will leave, its biblical.
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Re: How do you deal with lust?
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2010, 05:09:58 PM »
You don't deal with lust. You can't. You flee from it to Jesus, who already dealt with it on the cross and His death is our life and freedom.

http://www.puritynow.com

I don't want to spam this site on these forums, but I believe that the truth which God has taught me in my addiction and problem and freedom is one that I want to share with others - His grace is sufficient for thee in all matters of faith, addiction, healing etc. You can't overcome sin on your own. You can't overcome sin if you try to do it. You just have to let God do it by faith.
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