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Offline Rahn

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Heart, Mind, Body, and Spirit
« on: April 28, 2009, 03:43:29 PM »
I have read some of the other posts regarding loneliness and lust. I have dealt with both. What I have seen and felt in my lifetime I view within the context of faith. I had a very conservative faith as a teenager growing up in a Church of Christ. I heard plenty of sermons on adultery, fornication, and everything else. "The wages of sin is death" was a phrase that was "hammered" into my head. However, I still struggled like everyone else my age.

In high school I remember being around one guy who was "fooling around" and bragging about it. I remember talking to him and asking about the girl getting pregnant. He replied that "she could just get an abortion." I did not know what to say. I could not believe what I heard. I had been a part of a group from the church I attended at the time and saw a video on what a woman goes through during the process. This was a very conservative church. They separated male and females into two different parts of the building. I was in my late teens. I listened to a sermon that was very to the point. It was about lust that got carried away. There are consequences. The main problem within those relationships was that they were purely physical in nature. Maybe the heart and mind was a part. Unfortunately, there was no spiritual side.

The problem with so many relationships is that they never reach the "spiritual element." I had thought about putting "It is good, it is not so good" as the topic head. God looked down on Adam and Eve and said "It is Good." A true relationship is when God looks down between a man and woman and says "It is Good." Lust is not the good. I am not a perfect man. It is just that I have seen several marriages that were "It is not good." I have seen so many divorces. Some of them were in my own family and they did not help in producing positive images of marriage. (I have never married and the youngest.)

I deal with loneliness and lust like any man. However, I believe in Heaven and Hell and a Judgment Day. I also believe in "It is Good." I want more than just a physical or psychological or emotional relationship. I know what happens when a man and a woman never truly connect on the spiritual side. I have seen some really bitter breakups. I have heard "words" that are not my "Father's words." (I have used them in times of anger.) I have watched men and women lose that spiritual connection. It is not a pretty sight.

God is truly pleased when He looks down and sees a relationship wherein a man and woman truly connect in heart, mind, body, and Spirit. (I made a mistake in the past and wished I had done things differently. Two older, lonely people who start dating must pray together every time they get alone together.) God has to be at the center of the relationship and not the couple.

I could say more, but this thread is getting long. If a man and a woman never connect as God defines this connection within marriage they will never be truly happy. I want only what God wants for me. People, including myself, will not find true happiness unless God is at the center of the search and fulfillment of that search.  ::reading:: ::prayinghard:: ::kissing::


 

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Heart, Mind, Body, and Spirit
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Re: Heart, Mind, Body, and Spirit
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2009, 10:30:20 PM »
Thankyou for this, it has made me feel better to know that someone else is thinking about such things!  I know how you feel, I'm appalled at how others my age (ealy-mid twenties) regard sex and relationships.  I still have close friends who do not regard sex as meaningful and somewhat flaunt it, but I feel my place is to be their friend and try and be a good example, not to judge. 

Every relationship must include a spiritual element, if you can not connect with your partner on that level then your relationship is truly wanting, and I don't believe people in such a relationship will ever feel complete.  Recognizing this can be very difficult at times, I fell in love with a girl who has no knowledge of God nor much of a desire to learn.  She lives far away in Japan which is very difficult by itself, but I know that even if she was here and we fell in love, I don't think I could really be with her because she has no faith, and it causes me pain. 

But no one ever said being Christian was supposed to be easy!  I know how you feel, just keep the faith

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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2009, 10:30:20 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2009, 09:52:10 PM »
Its not easy but it has to be realistic, so it is very important the chruch does not add any onous through inturpretation.  I believe any intrupretation needs to bear the lightest yolk otherwise you create an impossible situation.  I think the 10 commandments were the best, through the writings of the new testimate scripture was introduced that could be translated to be very harsh

Thankyou for this, it has made me feel better to know that someone else is thinking about such things!  I know how you feel, I'm appalled at how others my age (ealy-mid twenties) regard sex and relationships.  I still have close friends who do not regard sex as meaningful and somewhat flaunt it, but I feel my place is to be their friend and try and be a good example, not to judge. 

Every relationship must include a spiritual element, if you can not connect with your partner on that level then your relationship is truly wanting, and I don't believe people in such a relationship will ever feel complete.  Recognizing this can be very difficult at times, I fell in love with a girl who has no knowledge of God nor much of a desire to learn.  She lives far away in Japan which is very difficult by itself, but I know that even if she was here and we fell in love, I don't think I could really be with her because she has no faith, and it causes me pain. 

But no one ever said being Christian was supposed to be easy!  I know how you feel, just keep the faith