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i really need some spiritual help !
« on: September 18, 2011, 02:48:09 PM »
hello everyone!.....im 31/m...lately i have been in a spiritual depression..especially the past year but very deeply the past few months....ive thought i was saved for a long time ..but lately after reading a few books and talking to some friends about what it means to truly be "BORN AGAIN" i have my doubts and feel maybe im not truly born again....ive visited churches..purchased me a new bible...a load of christian books...pray alot throughout the day...yet all day long im  never at peace about myself....sometimes i question Gods existence....sometimes i question my salvation or if i can be saved...i look at myself and feel like such an awful person for some of the perverse thoughts ive had and lusts ive had and things i have done in my past and thought about doing...and the anger inside me..etc...i feel so cruel and lifeless sometimes ....ive been very depressed...i was in a recent relationship and did things behind her back and we remained friends and its gotten to where i have to make a decision to move on or move forward back into a relationship and i dont know what to do...friends and counselors have given me advice but still i cant decide what to do and its stressing me out very badly...i wake up each morning in a bundle of nerves...picking my nails...messed up stomach...irritable...affecting the way i treat ppl and my work as well.....my friends tell me that i need to focus on my relationship with God..im trying hard...sometimes i feel im so stuck on my selfish worldly self that God will never get through to me ... im scared....i dont want to go to hell and i dont want others to go there..i want to do good i want to help others and be who God wants me to be ... i want to change and get out of this funk...i feel very paranoid..not sure what to do ...any suggestions or help ????

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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2011, 02:55:19 PM »
hello everyone!.....im 31/m...lately i have been in a spiritual depression..especially the past year but very deeply the past few months....ive thought i was saved for a long time ..but lately after reading a few books and talking to some friends about what it means to truly be "BORN AGAIN" i have my doubts and feel maybe im not truly born again....ive visited churches..purchased me a new bible...a load of christian books...pray alot throughout the day...yet all day long im  never at peace about myself....sometimes i question Gods existence....sometimes i question my salvation or if i can be saved...i look at myself and feel like such an awful person for some of the perverse thoughts ive had and lusts ive had and things i have done in my past and thought about doing...and the anger inside me..etc...i feel so cruel and lifeless sometimes ....ive been very depressed...i was in a recent relationship and did things behind her back and we remained friends and its gotten to where i have to make a decision to move on or move forward back into a relationship and i dont know what to do...friends and counselors have given me advice but still i cant decide what to do and its stressing me out very badly...i wake up each morning in a bundle of nerves...picking my nails...messed up stomach...irritable...affecting the way i treat ppl and my work as well.....my friends tell me that i need to focus on my relationship with God..im trying hard...sometimes i feel im so stuck on my selfish worldly self that God will never get through to me ... im scared....i dont want to go to hell and i dont want others to go there..i want to do good i want to help others and be who God wants me to be ... i want to change and get out of this funk...i feel very paranoid..not sure what to do ...any suggestions or help ????
Keep yourself in an environment that is conducive to God, and the only thing you an do is to keep wrestling with Him as Jacob  did; for His mercy endureth forever.

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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2011, 06:16:05 PM »
Dear Saintsfan80, you sound very much as if in the shoes of the Apostle Paul in Romans Chapter Seven. He was presented in two "I's" as walking after his old nature, and as the new man in Christ; there was a battle going on within him.

Romans 7:14-15  For we know that the law is spiritual: but I (The old man) am carnal, sold under sin. 15  For that which I do I allow not: for what I (The new man in Christ) would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
 
Read Paul's testimony, and after all that, and looking back at his conclusions, he says in Roman's 8:1, "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus." 

I wrote the following pamphlet in two parts that might help you understand more concerning your salvation.

http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/theology/salvation-with-security-part-one/msg594337/?topicseen#msg594337

http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/theology/salvation-with-security-part-two/msg594338/?topicseen#msg594338

God bless you in Jesus' name.

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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2011, 08:10:46 PM »
I will read the pamphlets. Thank u.  Does it sound like i am saved?? Im struggling with so much.  Alotnof shame and a ton of guilt as well especially from pain i causednin a relationship

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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2011, 08:42:34 PM »
Yes it does sound as if you're saved, else there would be no guilt. The Holy Spirit convicts the world (unbelievers) of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment, but as believers we feel guilt and hate that which we do wrong. You express that exactly.

When we believe, we died to the world with Christ, and that's why it is repulsive to us, just how to overcome it? Grow in grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus, and you will be less likely to follow after the fleshy life, but after the Spirit. According to Romans 12:2 we grow as Christians by being not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Put on the whole armor of God, and you will find that each part of it deals with the word of God to overcome our enemy. The biggest obstacle to our growth as a Christian is doubt to the surety of our salvation. You must learn to believe God to ever have peace about what He has given to you.

Ephesians 6:10-18


10  Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
11  Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12  For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13  Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14  Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
15  And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16  Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17  And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
18  Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;.

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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2011, 10:10:20 PM »
thanks for the replies...i hope i am truly born again...ive felt i am but also have felt some severe spiritual depression lately and sometimes i question if i am truly born again....i hope i am and that the Lord is going to help me grow in wisdom and understanding and help me overcome some things that are obstacles and strongholds on me cuz i have many of them

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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2011, 05:41:44 AM »
My story for the conversion of sinners and unbelievers.

A personal testimony glorifying Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior

This mercy is the greatest threat to Satan, because he loses many, many souls because of this Mercy offered by God for sinners

I am spreading the Devotion of Divine Mercy which teaches that any sinner can be saved if they would only turn from their sin and accept God's Mercy as bought for them by the death of Our Lord Jesus Christ on cross for sinners.

IN THE DEVINE MERCY DEVOTION, GODS LOVE IS UNLIMITED AND AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE! ESPECIALLY THE GRESTEST SINNERS!

Background of the Divine Mercy Devotion
http://www.faustina.ch/index_en.htm

I am a new creature

My specific encounters with God, my sense of His “presence.

KJV 2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things become new.

The Holy Spirit was convicting me of my sins, as I was praying I wept with grief. Every time I sinned I offended God. I was so ashamed of myself for what I had done, and for the way I had treated other people in the past. I wept so much I was exhausted.

God changed my heart.
Now I am no longer selfish,
I am no longer a lover of money.
I am no longer a liar.
I am no longer a con man and I am no longer a thief.
I have stopped using people to my advantage.


I am no longer spiteful towards others people.
I am no longer sarcastic towards others.
I am no longer rude towards others.
I no longer do my will, I only do Gods will; what he has commanded me to do for him, I have died to myself.

I was praying, on my hands and knees, for people around me, imagine the power of a volcano irrupting. That’s what it felt like when the Holy Spirit penetrated my heart. For He wants me to love others, to love every person as much as I love my own family. This is the will of God. He commands me to be like this.

I am changing my life and putting right with God. there are things I need to change in my life and I am working on them everyday.

I want to change,It is not me who can control this change in myself. Only God can do.
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One time a person asked me: “I want to be an angel, how do I become one?

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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2011, 05:49:25 AM »
I will pray for you your be ok,idea if you ever feel stressed learn yoga from internet its great for getting rid of stress,do it half and hour each day.

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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2011, 06:13:31 AM »
Sorry i had to delete.
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2011, 07:31:43 AM »
KJV  Matthew 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, ETC

Do not lisen to satans lies, Keep the Ten Commandments    
 
Posted a link about Satan’s lies to do with the Sabbath.
http://www.sabbath-day.net/
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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2011, 08:15:45 AM »
So, you have friends who tell you the right thing, and we are praying for you.

When I have not been sure if I am saved, I do not need to assume but God is the One who knows; so I can submit to Him for Him to do what He wants with me.

And in His peace we find out all He wants to do with us.

"And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also you were called in one body; and be thankful." (Colossians 3:15)

So, yes, the only thing that really works is to submit to God and trust Him to do what He pleases; He knows what's really going on and what He really wants.

Jesus says, "'Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.'" (Matthew 11:28-29) So, we do need to learn, with Jesus. It won't come just with what you can do, yourself. So, we need to be with Jesus in His peace and we need each other. So, stay with your friends who give you good Christian example and not just talk > "nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock." (1 Peter 5:3)

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« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2011, 12:48:13 PM »
Amen

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« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2011, 08:36:56 AM »
Dear Saints fan,

To begin I hope you are fine..

Basically it sounds like you are going through a very dark time in your life..  You wake up in a bundle of nerves and feel anger and are also very confused about your salvation and are scared and paranoid..

Firstly do not feel as if God is a punishing cruel God and that He will send you to hell.  There's no need to feel fear because if you have opened your heart to Christ and decided to be born again God accepts you into His kingdom..  We all fall short and sin, but if we repent God wipes all our sins away - that's why Jesus suffered and died for us.. He took the blame for your sins Saintsfan!  Also God tells us in the bible that He has not given us a spirit of fear!  So whatever comes to you in fear is from the evil one - be aware of that.  The Holy Spirit can also help you discern what is from God and what is from the world or the enemy, so be led by it's guidance in the form of intuition.

Second it looks as if you have issues that are subconsciously interfering with your mental peace..  If you wake up with nerves and fell paranoid and have anger then your misery is a sign from your subconscious mind that you have to deal with some issues.  These issues may have links to your childhood or bad or dysfunctional negative experiences, so ask God in prayer to reveal them to you.  He will help you deal with them and will guide you into renewing your mind and healing.

God can help you sort out your life, just pause a while and give everything that's troubling you over to Him in prayer.  You can also take a pen and paper and write down all the negative and fearful experiences you had in your life from your childhood and you can see the roots of whatever you're suffering there.  God may be wanting to reveal some hidden things to you or things you are running away from.

And when you deal with them with God, it may take time - but Jesus came to set captives free and deliever people from fear and confusion like this.  This may be an invitation from God to clear some junk in your life and to improve you as a Christian and as a person so you can start to live with the gift of joy and to enjoy your God given potential and destiny.

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God bless [Christina and Teppie Chartomatsidis]
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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2011, 10:58:47 AM »
You need to strengthen your faith. Believe in God alone. Stop jumping from places to places. Only God can help. Repent genuinely

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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2011, 10:59:43 AM »
You need to strengthen your faith. Believe in God alone. Stop jumping from places to places. Only God can help. Repent genuinely