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« Reply #30 on: October 09, 2009, 01:33:39 PM »

The author of 728b, A. W. Dicus, was a professor at the anti-institutional CoC's college in Florida. In a way, just singing the song is an exercise in ecumenicism.
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« Reply #31 on: October 09, 2009, 01:35:35 PM »

If we sing "Love divine, all love excelling" are we being unequally yoked to Methodists?
 
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« Reply #32 on: October 09, 2009, 02:53:08 PM »

If we sing "Love divine, all love excelling" are we being unequally yoked to Methodists?
 

Better toss that and the denominational Fanny J. Crosby songs out then.

So, that we're truly worshiping with sound brethren, we should sing only songs written by Alton Howard, L.O. Sanderson, Tillit S. Teddlie, Albert Brumley, etc.  But, we better find out what their positions were on all the "issues" first.  Pondering

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« Reply #33 on: October 09, 2009, 05:08:58 PM »

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So, that we're truly worshiping with sound brethren, we should sing only songs written by Alton Howard, L.O. Sanderson, Tillit S. Teddlie, Albert Brumley, etc.  But, we better find out what their positions were on all the "issues" first.

Jessie Brown Pounds was one of us but she went over to the Dark Side, the Disciples of Christ side. Before we sing "The Way of the Cross Leads Home" we will have to determine her state of mind at the time she wrote it.
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« Reply #34 on: October 09, 2009, 10:02:31 PM »

WE true disciples of Christ firstly do not SING.  You know it took until the year 373 before anyone tried to introduce SINGING as an ACT of worship. Even then it would be the elevated screechy-screaming falsetto but it would NOT be tuneful. That split the East from the West because pagan priests were being inducted as Bishops as "music was added from the pagans because it was common to all pagan cults" says the Catholc Encyclopedia which still never did CONGREGATIONAL singing with ORGAN accompaniment.

Nextly, the church in the wilderness, the faithfulness of the Jews in the synagogue, the example of Christ, the command of Christ using the word EKKLESIA, the command of Paul using the SYNAGOGUE words define THAT WHICH IS WRITTEN or THE WORD OF CHRIST.  No one was so unlearned that they failed to understand that even when FORCED to endure "precenters."

Congregational singing did not exist until after the Reformation. Why? you ask.  Simple, the Bible is not metrical and you couldn't sing it if your life depended on it.  The Psalms were radically REwritten so they could sing in UNISON. Harmony was added later. 

Furthermore, just out of college and into marriage we attended a non-institutional church and never noticed any difference. After all, being ethical, they understood that THEY had no right to use the already-unlawful collection plate to support someone else's INSTITUTE knowing full well that you build an institute Satan will come. Aren't you ashamed that you procured those SECULAR universities you THOUGHT were Bible Colleges?

Those people who can spell SYNAGOGUE or EKKLESIA couldn't even hallucinate a role for MUSIC when we assemble to hear Jesus Christ when the elders (only) teach that which has been taught and REFUTE those who oppose it.




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« Reply #35 on: October 10, 2009, 12:06:40 AM »

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Lively:  Give the NT verse in which it was authorized by any of the prophets

Do you mean you want a verse authorizing the Lords Supper on a Lord's Day afternoon?


Lively:  the subject is the great communion is it not?  Give the verse for the great communion in which people of all different faiths meet to have communion with each other...

All different faiths?  I believe those who participated in the event discussed in this thread are all of the Christian faith. 

Christians came together to partake of communion together on October 4th, which was the first day of the week.

What's the problem with that, exactly?


Lively:  well, I would say many claim the Christian faith... but not all are adhering to it...  it would also be my contention that there are many here who have yet obeyed the gospel... and many others who offer false worship or will worship to God regularly...  Hardly the faith which Christ and Paul taught...
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« Reply #36 on: October 10, 2009, 10:29:43 AM »

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Lively:  Give the NT verse in which it was authorized by any of the prophets

Do you mean you want a verse authorizing the Lords Supper on a Lord's Day afternoon?


Lively:  the subject is the great communion is it not?  Give the verse for the great communion in which people of all different faiths meet to have communion with each other...

All different faiths?  I believe those who participated in the event discussed in this thread are all of the Christian faith. 

Christians came together to partake of communion together on October 4th, which was the first day of the week.

What's the problem with that, exactly?


Lively:  well, I would say many claim the Christian faith... but not all are adhering to it...  it would also be my contention that there are many here who have yet obeyed the gospel... and many others who offer false worship or will worship to God regularly...  Hardly the faith which Christ and Paul taught...


How about a list?
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« Reply #37 on: October 10, 2009, 01:34:07 PM »

I need to know:  what did you sing?


Here is the service:

Introduction and Welcome (an orientation to Alex's Declaration and Address, emphasizing the desire for unity and acceptance, and a general intro to Stone-Campbell) - David Jenkins, Communion coordinator and member of Montgomery Church of Christ
Invocation - Tom Noles, Montgomery Church of Christ
Song - Doxology (all songs sung a capella, and led by Chris Amend, Montgomery Church of Christ)
Song - On Zion's Glorious Summit
Reading - Hebrews 1.1-4 (Alan Taylor, Mountainside Church of Christ)
Song - Come, Thou Almighty King
Song - We Praise Thee Oh God
Reading - Psalm 8 (Pastor Mark Scales, Heights (Independent) Christian Church
Song - On Lord, Our Lord
Reading - Hebrews 2.5-12 (Rev Laurie Lewis, Monte Vista Christian Church, DoC)
Song - How Deep the Father's Love for Us
Bell Choir Hymn (Monte Vista Christian Church, DoC)
Reading - 2 Corinthians 5.11-15 (Rev Mark Denton, West Mesa Christian Church, DoC)
Song - We Are the Body of Christ
Responsive Reading - John 17 (Darrell Carpenter, Ridgecrest (Independent) Christian Church, and Rev Steve Chisolm, Los Altos Christian Church, DoC, and the congregation)
Song - Because We Believe
Song - In Christ Alone
Communion (Wyatt Fenno, Montgomery Church of Christ, Pastor Tom Caffery, First Christian Church (Independent Christian Church), Rev Debbie Chisolm, Los Altos Christian Church, DoC) Folks were ushered by pew to several communion tables around the auditorium, and were served by two people from various participating congregations - and then returned to their pews
(Bell Choir during communion)
Song - There's A Stirring
Benediction - Scott Connor, Mountainside Church of Christ
Song - The Lord Bless You and Keep You
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« Reply #38 on: October 10, 2009, 01:55:25 PM »

If we sing "Love divine, all love excelling" are we being unequally yoked to Methodists?
 

Better toss that and the denominational Fanny J. Crosby songs out then.

So, that we're truly worshiping with sound brethren, we should sing only songs written by Alton Howard, L.O. Sanderson, Tillit S. Teddlie, Albert Brumley, etc.  But, we better find out what their positions were on all the "issues" first.  Pondering

Did you know Pat Boone was a member of the church?  Playing guitar

From an interview I read with Brumley not long before his passing, he wouldn't pass muster. Instrumental.

btw, Sanderson wrote some songs I like that we don't sing as often as we used to.  I'm not sure when the last time I heard "Be With Me, Lord" was.

Probably the last time I lead it, and no one but my parents sang along.
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« Reply #39 on: October 10, 2009, 02:40:41 PM »

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Lively:  Give the NT verse in which it was authorized by any of the prophets

Do you mean you want a verse authorizing the Lords Supper on a Lord's Day afternoon?


Lively:  the subject is the great communion is it not?  Give the verse for the great communion in which people of all different faiths meet to have communion with each other...

All different faiths?  I believe those who participated in the event discussed in this thread are all of the Christian faith. 

Christians came together to partake of communion together on October 4th, which was the first day of the week.

What's the problem with that, exactly?


Lively:  well, I would say many claim the Christian faith... but not all are adhering to it...  it would also be my contention that there are many here who have yet obeyed the gospel... and many others who offer false worship or will worship to God regularly...  Hardly the faith which Christ and Paul taught...


How about a list?


Lively:  Catholic, Lutheran, Methodist, Presbyterian, Pentecostal, church of God, church of Christ, Christian church, Disciples of Christ, Baptist, Jehovah Witnesses, Later day saints, Calvinists just to name a few...  I am sure this list could grow...  As far as I am concerned, I only know one of this group which teaches the truth as taught in the bible and adheres to it...
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« Reply #40 on: October 28, 2009, 07:54:53 PM »

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Lively:  Give the NT verse in which it was authorized by any of the prophets

Do you mean you want a verse authorizing the Lords Supper on a Lord's Day afternoon?


Lively:  the subject is the great communion is it not?  Give the verse for the great communion in which people of all different faiths meet to have communion with each other...

All different faiths?  I believe those who participated in the event discussed in this thread are all of the Christian faith. 

Christians came together to partake of communion together on October 4th, which was the first day of the week.

What's the problem with that, exactly?


Lively:  well, I would say many claim the Christian faith... but not all are adhering to it...  it would also be my contention that there are many here who have yet obeyed the gospel... and many others who offer false worship or will worship to God regularly...  Hardly the faith which Christ and Paul taught...


How about a list?


Lively:  Catholic, Lutheran, Methodist, Presbyterian, Pentecostal, church of God, church of Christ, Christian church, Disciples of Christ, Baptist, Jehovah Witnesses, Later day saints, Calvinists just to name a few...  I am sure this list could grow...  As far as I am concerned, I only know one of this group which teaches the truth as taught in the bible and adheres to it...
The question was to provide a list of those who have not obeyed the Gospel, or perhaps those that offer false or will worship, not a list of denominations.
Would you like to try again?
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« Reply #41 on: October 28, 2009, 09:11:01 PM »

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Lively:  Give the NT verse in which it was authorized by any of the prophets

Do you mean you want a verse authorizing the Lords Supper on a Lord's Day afternoon?


Lively:  the subject is the great communion is it not?  Give the verse for the great communion in which people of all different faiths meet to have communion with each other...

All different faiths?  I believe those who participated in the event discussed in this thread are all of the Christian faith. 

Christians came together to partake of communion together on October 4th, which was the first day of the week.

What's the problem with that, exactly?


Lively:  well, I would say many claim the Christian faith... but not all are adhering to it...  it would also be my contention that there are many here who have yet obeyed the gospel... and many others who offer false worship or will worship to God regularly...  Hardly the faith which Christ and Paul taught...


How about a list?


Lively:  Catholic, Lutheran, Methodist, Presbyterian, Pentecostal, church of God, church of Christ, Christian church, Disciples of Christ, Baptist, Jehovah Witnesses, Later day saints, Calvinists just to name a few...  I am sure this list could grow...  As far as I am concerned, I only know one of this group which teaches the truth as taught in the bible and adheres to it...
The question was to provide a list of those who have not obeyed the Gospel, or perhaps those that offer false or will worship, not a list of denominations.
Would you like to try again?

I think his answer was "Everybody is wrong but me."
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« Reply #42 on: October 29, 2009, 01:20:54 PM »

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Lively:  Give the NT verse in which it was authorized by any of the prophets

Do you mean you want a verse authorizing the Lords Supper on a Lord's Day afternoon?


Lively:  the subject is the great communion is it not?  Give the verse for the great communion in which people of all different faiths meet to have communion with each other...

All different faiths?  I believe those who participated in the event discussed in this thread are all of the Christian faith. 

Christians came together to partake of communion together on October 4th, which was the first day of the week.

What's the problem with that, exactly?


Lively:  well, I would say many claim the Christian faith... but not all are adhering to it...  it would also be my contention that there are many here who have yet obeyed the gospel... and many others who offer false worship or will worship to God regularly...  Hardly the faith which Christ and Paul taught...


How about a list?


Lively:  Catholic, Lutheran, Methodist, Presbyterian, Pentecostal, church of God, church of Christ, Christian church, Disciples of Christ, Baptist, Jehovah Witnesses, Later day saints, Calvinists just to name a few...  I am sure this list could grow...  As far as I am concerned, I only know one of this group which teaches the truth as taught in the bible and adheres to it...
The question was to provide a list of those who have not obeyed the Gospel, or perhaps those that offer false or will worship, not a list of denominations.
Would you like to try again?


Lively:  the denominations which I have listed is a list of those who have not obeyed the gospel...  if they are following the teachings of those denominations, they are not obeying the faith of Jesus Christ... they are not in Christ... they do not have Christ...
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« Reply #43 on: October 29, 2009, 05:27:52 PM »

Can't get much more exclusive than that.  Kind of reminds me of when Ira Rice Jr. disfellowshipped almost everyone he came into contact with and wasn't real sure about his associate editor of contentious for the faith.  

Ofcourse from what I have seen Lively would not fellowship Ira either. 
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« Reply #44 on: October 29, 2009, 06:51:30 PM »

One problem with being too exclusive is that there aren't enough guys to fill all of the Sunday morning slots. Who wants to have to think up something to say at the Lords Table every Sunday?
It might get to where you have to let women pass communion.   Whistling
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