Anyone observing "Great Communion"?

[Johnb]

 42And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

 43And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.

 44And all that believed were together, and had all things common;

 45And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

 46And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,

 47Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

How did they go from house to house and add to the church daily without preaching the gospel?  They were not reading the NT to them because it had not been written.  Unless ofcourse you believe folks come to Christ and are added to the church without the gospel.

[Livelysword]

42And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

 43And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.

 44And all that believed were together, and had all things common;

 45And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

 46And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,

 47Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

How did they go from house to house and add to the church daily without preaching the gospel?  They were not reading the NT to them because it had not been written.  Unless ofcourse you believe folks come to Christ and are added to the church without the gospel.

Lively:  The very same way Philip went down to Samaria and preached Christ unto them and to the Eunuch.  The same way Paul went and preached to the Gentiles...  speaking from knowledge, whether direct or from that which the apostles taught, from the OT scriptures, and by the Holy Spirit.  And yes, what they taught was the gospel...

[Johnb]

Lively
Now you have contradicted what you replied in your reply no. 74.

[Livelysword]

Lively
Now you have contradicted what you replied in your reply no. 74.

Lively:  well, post both side by side and lets take a look at them...  <shrugs>

[Johnb]

Lively
You have a computer. You put them together.
I said they met daily and spread the gospel and ask if you followed that part of the pattern?  You replied that I should show scripture where they were using the money to spread the gospel.  First I never said or ask that.  However, since they shared all things in common and taught folks and added to the church daily at least a portion of that money was used to spread the gospel.  However, again you have a comprehension problem.  The point was that you choose not to follow this NT church example.  Which just goes to show here is no specific pattern for how we do a worship service or even that a "worship service" was ever commanded or do we have an approved example of such.    Your approach to scripture is flawed, legalistic, judgemental and just plain wrong.

[Livelysword]

Lively
You have a computer. You put them together.
I said they met daily and spread the gospel and ask if you followed that part of the pattern?  You replied that I should show scripture where they were using the money to spread the gospel.  First I never said or ask that.  However, since they shared all things in common and taught folks and added to the church daily at least a portion of that money was used to spread the gospel.  However, again you have a comprehension problem.  The point was that you choose not to follow this NT church example.  Which just goes to show here is no specific pattern for how we do a worship service or even that a "worship service" was ever commanded or do we have an approved example of such.    Your approach to scripture is flawed, legalistic, judgemental and just plain wrong.

Lively:  I do not have a problem with what I stated... therefore I have no reason to put them together... if there is something you desire to bring attention to, then do so... but if you are going to hand out a statement and not bring the evidence, I am not even going to pay attention to it...  have a good day...

[Snargles]

  from both sides.

[Livelysword]

from both sides.

Lively:  Good for you, handle it in the way which seemeth best to you...


Pro 16:25  There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

[Scoobydoo]

Snargles, greetings in Christ from sunny Texas,

you feel

  from both sides.

My response--   Lets by getting everyone back to  the texts.

Scoobydoo

[DCR]

Both sides may well be reading the texts.

They're just not arriving at all the same conclusions.

[Snargles]

The Lively side and the John side are both repeating their respective views but neither side is going to give an inch. The discussion has been good if it causes readers to consider their own views and to do some bible reading to see who is closer to the truth. However if a new Christian would see all of this he might think all we do is argue. We might have to past a "No Newbies Allowed" sign.

[James.]

Are any CoC churches observing the "Great Communion" on October 4? When I did a Grace Centered search on the topic the only thing that popped up was a similar question under Announcements and Classifieds and since that doesn't seem to be too popular a location I thought I would ask again here. Doug Foster has a You Tube video saying all CoC, DOC and ICCoC should participate but I can't see many of us getting involved. I may be the only one in my congregation that has even heard of it.

Are any of you doing anything special on October 4?

Would have liked to, but there are even fewer DoC and ICCoC folk here than CoC, and there ain't many of us!

[Scoobydoo]

DCR, greetings in Christ from sunny Texas,

Ok--that may well be the situation....but is that necessarily good?

Many years ago--and I mean many--I was going to school and studying.  Sometimes when one does that--you find one or two items that just don't go away and reading this discussion reminded me of one of them.

a group of Christians were studying baptism and they were reading a commentary by a person they respected.  So they took their questions and sent them to him to see if he would respond.

He did--He took the scriptures and gave them as given in some detail but when asked if he had been baptized--His reply was that it was not necessary in his view and was not going to be .

The Christians were in shock...that a person who could teach baptism correctly and then turn around and see no need of it for himself.

So they sent off another letter asking why.  His response was--they has asked him what the bible taught on it--and he gave them what the bible taught on it---that was his responsibility but he saw no need to obey it himself in order to have a relationship with God.

I believe that "all" can know what the bible teaches--the rub comes when everyone wants it differently and sees no problem in not following directions, so to speak.

Oh this man was considered by most to be a scholar when it comes to teaching the scriptures.
That is important because in the circle defined by scholarship--if you get it wrong--you get the world of scholarship down on you--that is one thing.  Doing what the scriptures teach however, seems to a totally different arena of life and each is left to their own devices without evident penalty.

That is true whatever the subject matter and today scholarship is really out in left field so even today this story has problems.
Scoobydoo   

[Livelysword]

Snargles, greetings in Christ from sunny Texas,

you feel

  from both sides.

My response--   Lets by getting everyone back to  the texts.

Scoobydoo

Lively:  right on Scooby Doo...

[Johnb]

The Lively side and the John side are both repeating their respective views but neither side is going to give an inch. The discussion has been good if it causes readers to consider their own views and to do some bible reading to see who is closer to the truth. However if a new Christian would see all of this he might think all we do is argue. We might have to past a "No Newbies Allowed" sign.

1.  Most of these discussions end up with neither side giving much so nothing new there.

2. You have to repeat yourself with Lively because when you defeat his arguments he simply denies that you have and you have to show where he has fallen short.

3. No I will not give an inch to a false theology that teaches that only those who agree with me are children of God.  I consider Lively, Scooby and others who disagree with me as my brothers in Christ even though I may be viewed as a distant cousin or "brother in error"  (That is the only kind of brother I have.)    "Whereever God has a child I have a sister or brother"  W Carl Ketcherside

4. Sorry if strong views frustrate you.