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What is our commitment to truth?
« on: February 19, 2011, 07:16:21 PM »
How would you rate our commitment to truth in churches of Christ? I grew up with the idea of finding the truth and following it hammered into me, but these days more battle lines are being drawn, and truth is always the first casualty. And now I've had my own commitment questioned, as I've been forced to face my own compromises.

So how would you rate your own individual commitment?  Our commitment as a group?

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Re: What is our commitment to truth?
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2011, 08:30:27 PM »
I have no idea about the group.

I suspect Churches of Christ are as committed to truth - as they see it - as is any other religious group.

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Re: What is our commitment to truth?
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2011, 10:19:36 PM »
Let me rephrase this--is there something inherently dishonest about practicing religion?

I'm not talking about questioning the existence of God--I faced that bear long ago. I'm talking about the questions we don't dare to ask and the struggles with what we're supposed to believe that we don't want to look at too closely--a tendency that is sometimes revealed in our anger when others begin to examine these doctrines in front of us.

Sorry to not be too clear. The issues I'm looking at right now are ones that experience has taught me aren't safe to name on this board.

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Re: What is our commitment to truth?
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2011, 11:55:58 PM »
Let me rephrase this--is there something inherently dishonest about practicing religion?

Religion "pure and undefiled", no.  If any of us claim to live up to what we promote, yes.

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I'm talking about the questions we don't dare to ask and the struggles with what we're supposed to believe that we don't want to look at too closely--a tendency that is sometimes revealed in our anger when others begin to examine these doctrines in front of us.

Sorry to not be too clear. The issues I'm looking at right now are ones that experience has taught me aren't safe to name on this board.
If there are questions you don't dare ask, then you are lacking commitment, istm.

Struggles with what we are supposed to believe?  That's the root cause of anyone even bothering to read the scripture, asking others how they read it, and then posting about what keeps us awake at night, such as musicators and the starry host, isn't it? 

Finally, if there are issues you won't even mention on an internet message board, are you really all that committed to truth?  That folks roll in the dirt over those issues doesn't mean one or both are committed or not committed.

Look at the stock market.  Nothing trades until there is a disagreement about whether or not a particular stock should be owned, but that doesn't mean either of the traders is not committed to maximizing his return on investment.

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Re: What is our commitment to truth?
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2011, 11:02:44 AM »
Being honest doesn't mean saying what you're thinking, and history has shown that there are some topics that don't lead to open discussion.

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Re: What is our commitment to truth?
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2011, 02:59:52 PM »
Let me rephrase this--is there something inherently dishonest about practicing religion?

I'm not talking about questioning the existence of God--I faced that bear long ago. I'm talking about the questions we don't dare to ask and the struggles with what we're supposed to believe that we don't want to look at too closely--a tendency that is sometimes revealed in our anger when others begin to examine these doctrines in front of us.

Sorry to not be too clear. The issues I'm looking at right now are ones that experience has taught me aren't safe to name on this board.
Everybody's human, and groups are made up of humans. Sociologists, psychologists, ethicists will all tell you that peer pressure, wanting to belong, and individual security concerns all lead to the self- or extra-restrictions on what we will ask and opinions we will express.

Unfortunately, even this board is "public" in the sense that anyone can Google the topics or the posters. I can understand how someone in ministry would not post politically sensitive topics or opinions here - or anywhere else.

That doesn't make them dishonest; just circumspect.

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Re: What is our commitment to truth?
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2011, 11:31:20 AM »
Being honest doesn't mean saying what you're thinking, and history has shown that there are some topics that don't lead to open discussion.

I don't get what you're talking about.  Are you saying that if we were really committed to the truth about "it" we would talk about "it"?