Which are COC'rs more concerned with....?

[DCR]

I'm personally appalled at a previous reference to pork BBQ. Everyone knows pork BBQ is an abomination ;-)

Oh, that's right, you're from the apostate "Texas Tradition" branch.  Never trust anything west of Little Rock.

[Bocephus]

I'm personally appalled at a previous reference to pork BBQ. Everyone knows pork BBQ is an abomination ;-)

Oh, that's right, you're from the apostate "Texas Tradition" branch.  Never trust anything west of Little Rock.

A lot of them Texans even think Texas Longhorn is the best tasting beef out there.  Heretics!

[Johnb]

DCR
When I refered to the mainline CoC I was speaking of what was considered mainline 30 years ago.  You may be right that there are more grace centered CoCs now just not in my area.  By legalistic and judgemental I was refering to CENI and pattern theology that one had to meet with a church that did the 5 acts of worship... you know the drill.  By judgemental the attitude that those who are members of "the Lord's church" (code for CoC) are my brothers and sisters and the rest are denominationalist and no promise is made for them.

[Snargles]

i have a girlfriend who is baptist and she told me i needed to lighten up because i'm too hard on myself...
so concerned with being too legalistic in my life.... mainly i think about my righteousness too much

My formerly Baptist wife (she is now about 55% CoC and 45% Baptist) claims that the first 37 CoC sermons she sat through with me were all about repentance. Now whenever we get a repentance sermon she lets fly with an elbow to the ribs.
Growing up the main feeling that our sermons seemed to evoke was guilt - "I don't know what I did but I am sorry I did it." We have lightened up on the guilt trip but the sermons still follow the Bible a lot closer than the Baptist sermons I have heard.

How does she do with the a cappella singing? Has she had to suffer through Night with Ebon Pinon yet?

[Bocephus]

i have a girlfriend who is baptist and she told me i needed to lighten up because i'm too hard on myself...
so concerned with being too legalistic in my life.... mainly i think about my righteousness too much

My formerly Baptist wife (she is now about 55% CoC and 45% Baptist) claims that the first 37 CoC sermons she sat through with me were all about repentance. Now whenever we get a repentance sermon she lets fly with an elbow to the ribs.
Growing up the main feeling that our sermons seemed to evoke was guilt - "I don't know what I did but I am sorry I did it." We have lightened up on the guilt trip but the sermons still follow the Bible a lot closer than the Baptist sermons I have heard.

How does she do with the a cappella singing? Has she had to suffer through Night with Ebon Pinon yet?

If you want sermons that follow the Bible the closest, go to a Bible Church.

[blituri]

Maybe you won't have to wait much longer to get rid of the NOT using instruments in church: after all after 2000 years of taking the AXE to the position the very next stroke may wipe it off the face of our mouths.

Phoebe pointed out a good study by Edward Fudge who sees beyond the sacred page so he may be a prophet.

Edward Fudge: Death of a Distinctive?  I suppose from GracEmail. Phoebe won't tell.

Anyway he thinks that the A cappella form as our heritage meaning a vile disease we caught from our ancestors (Jesus, Luther, Calvin) is about ready for the final blow. As I remember one of the periodic assaults Dwayne E. Dunning wanted to take an AXE to the none instrumental position. They have now SECTED us: if you are non-instrumental they will give you a pass because you follow rules and quit refuting their arguments.  However, if you are an ANTI-instrumentalists and will just not shut your mouth then you are fair game for games fair and foul.

I was interested because Edward Fudge compared our position to the Bronze Serpent which was eventially worshipped in the temple. But, the bronze serpent points to the MUSICAL PAGANS so fudge does melt in your hands.  This connects to the Worship to Ishtar and Tammuze which the women lamented for (Ezek 8) while the men held their sun rise worship by TURNING THEIR BACKS to the Temple.

http://www.piney.com/MuTammuz.html

I have done a quick take on Edward doom and it is pretty scratchy.

Edward Fudge: Death of a Distinctive?

http://www.piney.com/Fudge.Death.Distinctive.html

[Mere Nick]

I'm personally appalled at a previous reference to pork BBQ. Everyone knows pork BBQ is an abomination ;-)

"pork BBQ" is a redundancy.

[DCR]

I'm personally appalled at a previous reference to pork BBQ. Everyone knows pork BBQ is an abomination ;-)

"pork BBQ" is a redundancy.

Yep... it's like saying "wet water."

[James.]

I'm personally appalled at a previous reference to pork BBQ. Everyone knows pork BBQ is an abomination ;-)

Oh, that's right, you're from the apostate "Texas Tradition" branch.  Never trust anything west of Little Rock.

Careful, now.  We all know that Tennessee is responsible for many a Texan's odd thinkin' because so many left TN looking for a better place and settled in TX.

[James.]

Pulled pork is a beautiful thing.  Love it.  BBQ is beef, though.  But then, I live among such heathen that think anything you cooked outside, be it a hot dog, a chicken, or corn is "BBQ."  It riles me to no end.  Let that serve as a warning.  Liberality in use the BBQ moniker leads to a sort of BBQ-Universalism.  Next thing you know you'll be thinking you can barbecue Jello.

[Mere Nick]

BBQ is pork to all but those who have given in to evil.

I refer the seekers of truth to scholarly analysis.

In this excellent example of scholarship, our benefactor provides this in his discussion of the regions of barbecue:

Barbecue is a cherished example of the cultural heritage of the South to most Southerners, but within the region, debate as to the nature of barbecue rages on. While barbecue-loving Southerners agree that the "Northern" definition of barbecue-- a cook-out in the back-yard-- is ludicrous, barbecue aficionados also like to argue about what constitutes true Southern barbecue. State by state, and even town by town, no method is exactly alike. . . .  the one non-debatable component of barbecue is pork, and the South is bounded by the parameters of the "barbecue belt". With apologies to the dedicated barbecue chefs of Owensboro and southwestern Texas, Kentucky's misbegotten notion of mutton, and the beef and mesquite of Texas simply do not qualify as barbecue. . . .

All honest truth seekers do, in fact, realize that barbecue is pork.

James, Jaime, and any others who are misinformed, I'm not saying that those who are mistaken about barbecue, as you obviously are, are certainly bound to be tossed into the gaping maw upon shuffling the mortal coil.  All I'm asking is that you look deep within yourselves and ask if it is worth taking that chance.

[Johnb]

Nick
I once stopped at a place that said "Best BBQ in the Country".   I ask for pork ribs a BBQ pork sandwich.  They said we don't serve pork only beef.  would you like a BBQ beef sandwich?  I told them no because they had started the BBQ with the wrong animal and left.

[marc]

Yeesh, the narrow-mindedness of all those south of us.  Barbeque is what you do, and you can do it to anything, including potato chips.

Next thing you know, someone will be saying that because the Bible says "sing", instrumental music is wrong. 

[Mere Nick]

Everyone knows pork BBQ is an abomination ;-)

Dirty nightshirts would say the same thing.

 

[blituri]

I think Texans use briskett: probably because it is cheap but can be manipulated with heat and chemicals.

I say Port is the real thing.  But, Mexican is better.