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Re: Defining Sound Doctrine
« Reply #70 on: Fri Jul 23, 2010 - 11:36:41 »
Imo, he wants both.  I want my children to obey the law.  Beyond that, I want them to be good to folks.  Likewise, it seems God wants it all from us.


Nick Me thinks you misunderstood what I was saying.  By spiritual rituals and rule keeping I was referring to the rituals and rules that man has come up with.  We keep civil laws and do good to all men because our heart has changed from serving man and ourselves to serving God. 

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Re: Defining Sound Doctrine
« Reply #70 on: Fri Jul 23, 2010 - 11:36:41 »

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Re: Defining Sound Doctrine
« Reply #71 on: Sat Jul 24, 2010 - 11:38:13 »
Hos. 6:4 O Ephraim, what shall I do unto thee? O Judah, what shall I do unto thee?
        for your goodness is as a morning cloud, and as the early dew it goeth away.
Hos. 6:5 Therefore have I hewed them by the prophets;
        I have slain them by the words of my mouth:
            and thy judgments are as the light that goeth forth.

Hos. 6:6 For I desired mercy, and NOT sacrifice;
       and the knowledge of God mor than burnt offerings.

God saved Israel from Egypt by pure grace.  They had been baptized unto Moses, had the Spirit guidance, were given The Book of The Covenant. This did not demand sacrifices but defined how they COULD NOT be made which was violated by the Monarchy.  Christ ordained the Church in the wilderness which quarantined the godly people FROM the Civil-Military-Clergy operatives in the national temple.  This was A School (only) of the Word (only). Modern "worship" rituals are a defacto sacrificial system under the same clases.

    Is. 1:10 Hear the word of the LORD, ye rulers of Sodom;
            give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah.
    Is. 1:11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me?
            saith the LORD:
            I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts;
            and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.
    Is. 1:12 When ye come to appear before me,
            who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?
    Is. 1:13 Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me;
            the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with;
            it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.

Jacob prophesied of Levi and warned us all NOT to use them as a PATTERNISM as they are now being restored among the PROGRESSIVE preachers.

    Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel;
           Put your burnt offerings unto your sacrifices, and eat flesh. Jeremiah 7:21

    For I spake NOT unto your fathers, nor commanded them
           in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt,
           concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices: Jeremiah 7:22

BUT, does not mean you can do it IF you have the right mental attitude. When the elders "FIRED" God and demanded a senior "pastor" God promised that the kings would be selected to carry out the captivity and death sentence imposed  at Mount Sinai.

    But this thing commanded I them, saying,
           Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people:
           and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you,
           that it may be well unto you. Jeremiah 7:23

CENI is to protect US from the YOU who plan to make IT NOT WELL with us. Here is how they quenched the Spirit of Christ through the prophets:

    But they HEARKENED NOT, nor inclined their ear,
           but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart,
           and went backward, and not forward. Jeremiah 7:24

They were ANTI-Ceni to protect THEM while taking YOU captive. Christ in the propets will identify the Civil-Military-Clergy complex as robbers and parasites IMPOSED because of their own revolting against God. The laded burden Jesus died to remove was "creating spiritual anxiety through religious rituals." This is the Law of Christ and you cannot DISOBEY it if you have the "right attitude."

    Therefore thou shalt speak all these words unto them;
           but they will not hearken to thee:
           thou shalt also call unto them;
           but they will not answer thee. Jeremiah 7:27

    But thou shalt say unto them,
           This is a nation that obeyeth not the voice of the Lord their God,
           nor receiveth correction: truth is perished,
           and is cut off from their mouth. Jeremiah 7:28

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Re: Defining Sound Doctrine
« Reply #71 on: Sat Jul 24, 2010 - 11:38:13 »

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Re: Defining Sound Doctrine
« Reply #72 on: Sat Jul 24, 2010 - 21:17:46 »
Imo, he wants both.  I want my children to obey the law.  Beyond that, I want them to be good to folks.  Likewise, it seems God wants it all from us.
Both, yes and no. I (and God) want them to be good folks, living images of God. Keeping the law comes from that, but being mature also reveals when the law should not be followed, even if the general tenor is to keep it. It is better to practice compassion than to walk by a wounded person on the Sabbath.