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Advanced SystemCare 8.2 Pro?
« on: Sat May 23, 2015 - 09:11:49 »
On my personal computer: I just installed the other day the Advanced SystemCare 8.2 Pro. I'd ask if anyone has experience using this program?
It seems to be playing havoc with my Norton anti-virus in that some of the features, like Driver Booster, causes NAV alerts to pop. And right after I installed this I was alerted to a "Trojan.Gen.2" security risk.

Security History since install of SystemCare 8.2 Pro

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´╗┐Category: Resolved Security Risks
Date & Time,Risk,Activity,Status,Recommended Action,Path - Filename
2015-05-22 22:23:12,Low,driverbooster.exe (WS.SecurityRisk.3) detected by Virus scanner,Quarantined,Resolved - No Action Required,c:\program files (x86)\iobit\driver booster\driverbooster.exe
2015-05-22 9:17:52,High,jewelmatch3-wt.exe (Trojan.Gen.2) detected by Auto-Protect,Quarantined,Resolved - No Action Required,c:\program files (x86)\emachines games\jewel match 3\jewelmatch3-wt.exe
2015-05-21 20:12:52,Low,driverbooster.exe (DriverBooster) detected by Auto-Protect,Excluded,Resolved - No Action Required,c:\program files (x86)\iobit\driver booster\driverbooster.exe



My question being, as this is a new machine with a trial version of the Norton installed, does Norton normally conflict with this type program? (for those with experience having SystemCare on their machines), is SystemCare all it's said to be as far as top of the line maintenance for computers, or is there a better alternative in either case. Anti-Virus and system care software.

Thank you for your insight and advice.

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Advanced SystemCare 8.2 Pro?
« on: Sat May 23, 2015 - 09:11:49 »

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Re: Advanced SystemCare 8.2 Pro?
« Reply #1 on: Sat May 23, 2015 - 10:32:38 »

Norton is famous for throwing up false positives, and apparently IOBit has been playing havoc with numerous AVs


http://community.norton.com/en/forums/driverbooster-threat-warning

IMHO having been working with computers for close to 25 years, software like this is snake oil, in fact anything that claims to boost your memory, advance your drivers, speed up and optimize your system, registry cleaners/boosters, etc, are nothing more than short term enhancers that force you to rely on their products to render your PC usable. I prefer the clean approach, well organized file systems, AdBlock plus in my browser to prevent seeing ads, No-Script in my browser to prevent anything from executing without my consent, MSE for security (easy on resources, not the best, not the worst, but free and updates every other day), and keeping some free disk space.


There is however some very good software for running intermittent scans for malware, and removing unwanted files/programs that Windows may not show without digging deep.

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« Reply #2 on: Sat May 23, 2015 - 10:43:37 »
Thank you very much for your experienced insight.

Thank God for satisfaction money back guarantees.  ::smile:: 

What would you suggest as very good deep scan anti-malware software?


ETA: Well, I put in for the refund. We'll see if they're as forthcoming with my money as I was.  ::disco::

Thank again for the link to Norton. I should have checked there but didn't even think about it. I added that link to my explanation as to why the refund. I'm sure they'll not be surprised.

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Re: Advanced SystemCare 8.2 Pro?
« Reply #3 on: Sat May 23, 2015 - 11:01:53 »
MalwareBytes


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Get the free versions and run them periodically (monthly for minimal usage, weekly for heavy Internet activity). The only difference between the free and paid for versions is the "real time monitoring" feature that can easily be circumvented by running regular scans. There may be redirects associated with the free downloads, if there is use caution when installing that you are only installing the main app and not subsidiaries of the download site.


* just checked on my Windows machine and both have direct downloads, still always use caution when installing to know what you are installing.


Good luck  ::smile::

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« Reply #4 on: Sat May 23, 2015 - 11:08:27 »
Thank you, I'll need it. I still can't believe how naive, even stupid, I was to think this was a positive software for my machine.  ::frown::
Live and learn and spend to do so.


MalwareBytes


SuperAntiSpyware


Get the free versions and run them periodically (monthly for minimal usage, weekly for heavy Internet activity). The only difference between the free and paid for versions is the "real time monitoring" feature that can easily be circumvented by running regular scans. There may be redirects associated with the free downloads, if there is use caution when installing that you are only installing the main app and not subsidiaries of the download site.


* just checked on my Windows machine and both have direct downloads, still always use caution when installing to know what you are installing.


Good luck  ::smile::

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« Reply #5 on: Sat May 23, 2015 - 13:17:24 »
Update.

I uninstalled all that is related to ASC Pro.
Would the SuperAntispyware you recommended be superior to Norton in your experience? Or would it conflict if added to my machine? The MSE, is that a stand alone trustworthy anti-V or can it work in concert with Norton and SuperAS?

I added CCleaner to my machine so as to clean up the registry after the delete. Is that sufficient do you think so as to clear my machine of any lingering nasties that may cling from the ASC-Pro?


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Re: Advanced SystemCare 8.2 Pro?
« Reply #6 on: Sat May 23, 2015 - 14:53:46 »
CCleaner is good, it will help delete left over folders and unwanted registry items.


MSE is a stand alone AV, it works well with SAS and MWB.


SAS is a standalone malware remover, I believe your Norton version is a security suite? An all in one AV and malware detector? If so, I believe you could still run SAS and MWB but have them set to only run when you want them to.

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Re: Advanced SystemCare 8.2 Pro?
« Reply #7 on: Sat May 23, 2015 - 16:00:09 »
I am resolved never to use products by Symantec.

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Re: Advanced SystemCare 8.2 Pro?
« Reply #8 on: Sat May 23, 2015 - 20:52:46 »
Thanks for the insight Alan.

TC, why have you made that resolution?

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Re: Advanced SystemCare 8.2 Pro?
« Reply #9 on: Sat May 23, 2015 - 22:34:53 »
Thanks for the insight Alan.

TC, why have you made that resolution?

I installed and maintained Backup Exec.  I found the software buggy and the technical support to be of no help.

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« Reply #10 on: Sat May 23, 2015 - 22:43:04 »
Thanks for sharing your experience.

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Re: Advanced SystemCare 8.2 Pro?
« Reply #11 on: Sun May 24, 2015 - 06:28:06 »
Historically, Symantec was the best anti-virus (back to the Win 98/Win 2K days) but became quite bloated and intrusive as their company grabbed the majority of the market. Soon alternative AVs started to become more and more popular (Kaspersky, NOD, Avast, Panda, etc) and Symantec/Norton and their multitudes of overpriced protection software were no longer a good value to the average user. That said, they made a decent comeback with 360 (all in one protection) but never recovered their majority of the market. I honestly have never went back to them but have heard from others that the software works well and balances between resources and protection quite adequately.


There are several good sites that will give details pertaining to the AVs effectiveness, total protection suites are here, and as you can see MSE scores very low on almost every test. "You get what you pay for" and "seen and not heard" come to mind when opting to install software of this type. You'll also see that Norton continuously scores quite high these days, a good note for Symantec.


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Both paid and free AV suites and standalone AVs, click the headers in each category to organize between best protection, performance, and usability here.


I am always a little weary of any test sites since they tend to be biased toward whichever company is the friendliest to their site  ::giggle::  But conduct your own searches also, I know your intuitive Buster  ::smile::

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Re: Advanced SystemCare 8.2 Pro?
« Reply #12 on: Sun May 24, 2015 - 08:07:15 »
Alan,

For $20, I got protection for 5 machines.  That seems like a great value  ::smile:: .  I agree that Norton gives false positives...many false positives.  However, it has saved my computers countless times over the years.  I realize some people have a great dislike for Norton products, but I would gladly recommend them to anyone.

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Re: Advanced SystemCare 8.2 Pro?
« Reply #13 on: Sun May 24, 2015 - 10:11:37 »
Thank you both for your advice and the links Allan. I'll be checking everything out.  ::smile::

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« Reply #14 on: Sun May 24, 2015 - 12:14:19 »
SAS and Bitdefender both look to be very impressive. Thoughts?

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« Reply #15 on: Sun May 24, 2015 - 14:16:38 »
Alan,

For $20, I got protection for 5 machines.  That seems like a great value  ::smile:: .  I agree that Norton gives false positives...many false positives.  However, it has saved my computers countless times over the years.  I realize some people have a great dislike for Norton products, but I would gladly recommend them to anyone.

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Putting up with the odd false positive from time to time while being well protected is a good thing, as I've said above, Norton has most certainly made a comeback as one of the top contenders in AV software.

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« Reply #16 on: Sun May 24, 2015 - 14:27:25 »
And yet what is one to know as the difference between a false positive and the real thing? It's nerve wracking in my view. I received a Trojan Gen.2 alert from Norton when I had the ASCP on my machine. "Trojan" is a keyword alarm, at least to my knowledge it is suppose to be, for anyone with a computer. Bad juju.

Just the roller coaster question, is this a real alert, or is this a false positive, makes Norton suspect if it's prone to that.
 Is this something all AV's are prone to do? Maybe  so as to instill the importance of having them installed? As in a reminder of what could attack your machine if you don't have an AV on board?  ???


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Re: Advanced SystemCare 8.2 Pro?
« Reply #17 on: Sun May 24, 2015 - 14:53:48 »

lol, yep, trojans are bad news buster  ::crackup::

The less effective AVs do not throw as many false positives, but that stands to reason. The better the AV is at snooping out dubious files, the more likely you will receive false positives. If you're torrenting STOP IT!! ::noworries::


The only way to know for sure that a file in your possession has deemed a threat and you feel it's questionable is to either check the AV site for other comments, or do a Google search.


Regarding BitDefender, I've heard very good things about it, but I think it's a bit pricy for the average user.


I also think that many of these AVs have been developed for the user that frequents questionable sites, not something that we need to concern ourselves with, however, my wife did get stung on her laptop visiting cake sites  ???

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« Reply #18 on: Sun May 24, 2015 - 15:01:40 »

lol, yep, trojans are bad news buster  ::crackup::

The less effective AVs do not throw as many false positives, but that stands to reason. The better the AV is at snooping out dubious files, the more likely you will receive false positives. If you're torrenting STOP IT!! ::noworries::
Man, you gotta not make 'puter file jokes to those of us, moi, who are not 'puter jeniusuz.  ::bagonface::  I had to look up torrent just to get the punchline. ::destroyingcomputer:: ::giggle::


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The only way to know for sure that a file in your possession has deemed a threat and you feel it's questionable is to either check the AV site for other comments, or do a Google search.


Regarding BitDefender, I've heard very good things about it, but I think it's a bit pricy for the average user.


I also think that many of these AVs have been developed for the user that frequents questionable sites, not something that we need to concern ourselves with, however, my wife did get stung on her laptop visiting cake sites  ???
I defer to your wisdom then about the false positives. My Norton is a trial period, 45 day stretch, program added to the new machine software bundle. That's why I'm looking for the what-for's on it or other AV's before that trial lapse date.


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Re: Advanced SystemCare 8.2 Pro?
« Reply #19 on: Thu Jun 11, 2015 - 19:05:15 »
I put Avast on all the computers I work on and my personal ones. I like the boot time scan and the software update feature.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2471522,00.asp

Avast Free Antivirus 2015
By Neil J. Rubenking

Got antivirus? If not, stop reading this article and go install an antivirus utility. There are plenty to choose from, and some, like Avast Free Antivirus 2015, are completely free. With this edition, Avast adds a network protection scan that finds any problems with your home router's security. I'm a big fan of this network scan, but the product's central antivirus protection is just average.
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Avast's previous edition was among the first products exposed to my malicious URL blocking test. For many, many months, its 79 percent blocking rate stood as the very best score in this test. More recently, several products have surpassed that score. At present, McAfee AntiVirus Plus 2015 with 85 percent blocking, is at the top. The current edition of Avast blocked 72 percent of the malicious downloads, which is still quite good.

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Re: Advanced SystemCare 8.2 Pro?
« Reply #20 on: Thu Jun 11, 2015 - 19:08:29 »
I've currently installed the BitDefender free edition. Though it seems pretty quiet in that there are no balloons notifying updates and all.

How would you compare that to the Avast freebie?


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« Reply #21 on: Thu Jun 11, 2015 - 19:27:27 »
I've currently installed the BitDefender free edition. Though it seems pretty quiet in that there are no balloons notifying updates and all.

How would you compare that to the Avast freebie?

I prefer Avast because of the boot time scan and software updater, but BitDefender free edition seems to be rated highly, would probably not be a bad choice.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2388652,00.asp

The Best Free Antivirus for 2015
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Re: Advanced SystemCare 8.2 Pro?
« Reply #22 on: Thu Jun 11, 2015 - 19:51:50 »
BD currently has autoscan and auto-updater on the free version I have installed. Autoscan periodically checks sensitive areas and does a deep sweep at times. But there's no mention of a boot time scan though I'd think the sensitive areas scanning would maybe cover that but after the fact. Guessing there.

 

     
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