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« on: Tue Jul 03, 2007 - 17:06:44 »
Well I registered in two prize drawings for an iPhone.  That is about the only way I could do it.

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Re: iPhone
« Reply #1 on: Tue Jul 03, 2007 - 18:04:44 »
I had been saving my dollars since January.  I have been looking forward to this revolutionary device and made my mind up that I was going to get one. I was even in line at am AT&T store on launch night. But I have decided against it. Here are my reasons for what there are worth.

1) There is no upgradeable memory, no SD slots, nothing.

2) It has the same battery problems that the IPod has, namely if you need to change the battery then you must send it to Apple and pay them to get a new one.  Estimate on the new battery $100.00 and three weeks.

3) No one will provide insurance on the phone. Well I say no one, I am having trouble getting a straight answer about Apple Care.

4) It costs $20.00 more a month so you can get 200 text mails, limited internet activity,  and use the voice mail application. 

I believe that I am just going to upgrade my Treo instead.  ::shrug::

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Re: iPhone
« Reply #2 on: Tue Jul 10, 2007 - 07:17:19 »
I want them to take the iPhone, rip out the cell phone stuff and drop in a hard drive.

The ultimate iPod with Wifi, bluetooth, larger screen and a keyboard.

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Re: iPhone
« Reply #3 on: Tue Jul 10, 2007 - 08:40:10 »
I was watching a couple of professional geeks reflecting on their three week experiences with the iPhone on the CBS News, this morning, and it was brought out, as far as I could understand, that that it didn't have WiFi, so that all Internet traffic had to be handled through the much slower cell connection.  Not only did this frustrate the one who (relatively) panned the item because he sometimes needed instant access to data, but it showed to be inferior to some similar devices which can access the Internet either way.  (I forget the acronym for this feature.)

The two disputed over a few other perceived shortcomings of the devise, but they sort of agreed that if they had to pay for the phone out of pocket, they would probably have waited for the inevitable version 2.0, (though one did not quite deny that he slept with his under his pillow.)

Speaking of out-of-pocket/out-of-mind, did anyone happened to see the bids on these devices on eBay on the night of their release?  I saw one at $1500, and $1200 was not uncommon...

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Re: iPhone
« Reply #4 on: Tue Jul 10, 2007 - 08:46:12 »
I want them to take the iPhone, rip out the cell phone stuff and drop in a hard drive.

The ultimate iPod with Wifi, bluetooth, larger screen and a keyboard.
I got one of those...it's called a Dell Inspiron 4000.

People always ask me why I don't wear contact lenses.  I tell them I do...the frames just make them easier to find... ::shrug::

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Re: iPhone
« Reply #5 on: Tue Jul 10, 2007 - 08:51:40 »
Did you guys read Opus last week?  Opus fought his way to the head of the iPhone line, hurled a wad of cash at the clerk and got his iPhone.  Then he was ecstatically happy.  Until out came a new "improved" iPhone, at which point he hurled another wad of cash at the clerk, got his new one, and tossed the now obsolete one into the trash while defiantly sticking out his tongue at the audience.

Jim

P.S.  On another subject, you need to read Opus this week too.  It is a wonderful sendup of those longing for another Reagan who are looking to Fred Thompson as a possibility.

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Re: iPhone
« Reply #6 on: Tue Jul 10, 2007 - 08:54:19 »
 rofl

I don't get to read Opus anymore. Our paper doesn't have it in the cartoon section anymore.

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Re: iPhone
« Reply #7 on: Tue Jul 10, 2007 - 08:58:35 »
I'll just stick to my free phone.  It does everything I need.

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Re: iPhone
« Reply #8 on: Tue Jul 10, 2007 - 09:12:18 »
I'll just stick to my free phone.  It does everything I need.

Yeah, once you get beyond on and off, it is beyond my technical ability and my needs.

I was just recalling in my memory the first "computer" I ever worked on was a Radio Shack TRS 80. A few years prior to that, I was a teenager talking on a rural partyline rotary phone. You know the kind you really "dialed". In the early 70's in college, (After surviving thermodynamics with a slide rule)  I saved for months to get a 4 function calculator for about $150. Now they give away calculators in banks that do way more than that even trig functions and such. I remember when I first heard about a fax machine, I thought, sending a letter over the phone lines, no way man! Oh the trials of technology! Especially for old farts like me.

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Re: iPhone
« Reply #9 on: Tue Jul 10, 2007 - 10:05:11 »
I was watching a couple of professional geeks reflecting on their three week experiences with the iPhone on the CBS News, this morning, and it was brought out, as far as I could understand, that that it didn't have WiFi, so that all Internet traffic had to be handled through the much slower cell connection.  Not only did this frustrate the one who (relatively) panned the item because he sometimes needed instant access to data, but it showed to be inferior to some similar devices which can access the Internet either way.  (I forget the acronym for this feature.)

It does have wifi.

The big data drawback is that it uses a less than state of the art cell data protocol the speed is a lot faster than dial-up but less than slower DSL. On the internet it currently doesn't support java or flash so some sites and nifty stuff on those sites won't display.

I wouldn't dare buy a first gen iPhone. The first iPod shipped November 10, 2001. Four months later a larger one shipped and then four months after that, the first model price fell $100 and at the high end the first touch sensitive controller made its debut. Nine months later they came out with thinner models with higher capacity. In another six months capacity was increased again but price points for top and bottom models stayed the same despite the improvements. Four months later the lower priced iPod mini comes out. Six months later the top models are made smaller and thinner. Three months later an iPod with a color screen capable of displaying photos ships. Three months later the first Shuffle is released and a month later capacity for the Shuffle increased and regular iPods made thinner AGAIN. Four months later all regular iPods now have color screens. Three months after that the most popular iPod ever, the mini, is ditched for the Nano. Four WEEKS after that, the video iPod is released. Finally 12 months without change and the shuffle is updated to the new metal look, smaller size and capacity increased.

One thing I've learned from watching Apple is that they release a product and its usually a bit better than the competition overall but will have some nagging annoyance or lack some feature that keeps it from just being the absolute best on the block. Then Company X will leak that they are shipping a just as good model or one that may be a bit better in storage but not as good in interface and just before their catch-up model comes out Apple releases the next version that cures some short coming or adds the got have it feature you never knew you wanted leaves the other side still lagging behind.

I figure in 12 to 18 months Apple will have taken the feedback from the iPhone and be on version 2.5 or 3.0 and have it tweaked to Borg assimilation levels where people beyond the usual geeky early adopters have to have it.

Apple despite its shortcomings in some areas (they don't make machines that moderately skilled people can DIY repairs on easily, they have never been good at making a budget entry level computer, they are lousy at dealing with the needs of large corporate buyers) has certain things it does very well. They are great at making stylish machines. They are great at user friendly products. But their best skill is when they have an advantage is staying ahead.

The rumor/speculation has been that Apple slowed its pace on the new version of the operating system OSX and has even removed some features planned for the new release because they felt Microsoft hadn't closed enough ground with Vista to warrant some of the big changes. They will likely hold some changes (including a new file system that drastically improves reliability and speed of huge drives) for the release that will likely ship in the Spring of 09.

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« Reply #10 on: Tue Jul 10, 2007 - 11:45:02 »
P.S.  On another subject, you need to read Opus this week too.  It is a wonderful sendup of those longing for another Reagan who are looking to Fred Thompson as a possibility.

I made the mistake, while surfing the cable yesterday, of finding an old episode (aren't they ALL old episodes) of "Matlock." Apparently, it was early in his career: former Sen. Thompson was a guest star who was the invariably acquitted client of Andy Griffith. He (Thompson) had more hair then; looked like Joe Don Baker (but not the Joe Don Baker of the James Bond movie, "The Living Daylights") in a plaid suit.

I guess if Thompson looks like anything now, he looks like Mr. Baker meets Lord Voldemort meets Gordon Gekko ("Wall Street").

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Re: iPhone
« Reply #11 on: Tue Jul 10, 2007 - 13:43:17 »
rofl

I don't get to read Opus anymore. Our paper doesn't have it in the cartoon section anymore.


We are in luck! ::clappingoverhead::

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Re: iPhone
« Reply #12 on: Tue Jul 10, 2007 - 14:14:16 »
rofl

I don't get to read Opus anymore. Our paper doesn't have it in the cartoon section anymore.


We are in luck! ::clappingoverhead::


Thanks Norm that was great!

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Re: iPhone
« Reply #13 on: Wed Jul 11, 2007 - 11:48:53 »
I've bought 12 so far.   ::angel::

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« Reply #14 on: Wed Jul 11, 2007 - 12:49:18 »
I've bought 12 so far.   ::angel::
Find one that worked?

[Jes' kinding (and envious...)]

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Re: iPhone
« Reply #15 on: Wed Jul 11, 2007 - 13:52:49 »
I got to see an iPhone in action last night.

Pardon me I've got to go do some repenting for the lust and coveting I did about that stupid piece of metal and plastic.

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« Reply #16 on: Wed Jul 11, 2007 - 15:21:41 »
I want them to take the iPhone, rip out the cell phone stuff and drop in a hard drive.

The ultimate iPod with Wifi, bluetooth, larger screen and a keyboard.
I got one of those...it's called a Dell Inspiron 4000.

People always ask me why I don't wear contact lenses.  I tell them I do...the frames just make them easier to find... ::shrug::


ROTFLOL! If you install Skype you'll have it all!!!

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Re: iPhone
« Reply #17 on: Thu Jul 12, 2007 - 00:28:08 »
One good thing that is happening in an effort to catch up, is that several other companies (Blackberry, Palm, Motorola) will have new phones with in the next year hit the market that will also have "intuitive" WiFi. That way they will pick up on a hot spot immediately and you can surf at much faster times.

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Re: iPhone
« Reply #18 on: Thu Aug 23, 2007 - 08:23:30 »
I want them to take the iPhone, rip out the cell phone stuff and drop in a hard drive.

The ultimate iPod with Wifi, bluetooth, larger screen and a keyboard.
Betcha that's the next iteration of the iPod, probably next year.

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« Reply #19 on: Thu Aug 23, 2007 - 12:18:29 »
I've bought 12 so far.   ::angel::
Find one that worked?

[Jes' kinding (and envious...)]

I was joking, you know.  I'm a poor student and have trouble affording lunch.

 

     
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