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« Reply #1 on: Sun Jan 31, 2010 - 06:22:45 »
My XP was destroyed by something called Internet Security 2010. I was doing a search through google and clicked on a link and after that I was infested by a worm called worm.win32 netsky.  ::destroyingcomputer::

Microsoft reported that over 10,000 computers were destroyed by it. Mine was about 10 years old so I got Windows Live. It a bit different but I think I'm going to like it.

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« Reply #2 on: Sun Jan 31, 2010 - 07:42:58 »
My XP was destroyed by something called Internet Security 2010. I was doing a search through google and clicked on a link and after that I was infested by a worm called worm.win32 netsky.  ::destroyingcomputer::

Microsoft reported that over 10,000 computers were destroyed by it. Mine was about 10 years old so I got Windows Live. It a bit different but I think I'm going to like it.

! Wow, I'm sorry you went through that, Bonnie.
I hope that site is gone.

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« Reply #3 on: Sun Jan 31, 2010 - 09:52:33 »
All more reason to get a Mac or a Linux box.

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« Reply #4 on: Sun Jan 31, 2010 - 12:05:40 »
My XP was destroyed by something called Internet Security 2010. I was doing a search through google and clicked on a link and after that I was infested by a worm called worm.win32 netsky.  ::destroyingcomputer::

Microsoft reported that over 10,000 computers were destroyed by it. Mine was about 10 years old so I got Windows Live. It a bit different but I think I'm going to like it.

! Wow, I'm sorry you went through that, Bonnie.
I hope that site is gone.


I doubt that it is. It was a religious site that fit the category of my question.
It all happened so fast that I don't know what the site was called.
Just be careful and have something to catch spy ware. My AVG was helpless against it.

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« Reply #5 on: Sun Jan 31, 2010 - 12:06:19 »
All more reason to get a Mac or a Linux box.


How are they different?

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« Reply #6 on: Sun Jan 31, 2010 - 13:02:44 »
All more reason to get a Mac or a Linux box.


How are they different?

Macintoshs are pricey, but are pretty simple to use. Linux on the other hand can be tricky, but you can install a Linux Operating System or OS on any Windows computer. Macintosh's OS is limited to their hardware, so you have to buy a whole new computer to use it. Linux however is free to download, it just takes a long time depending on your internet speed. But both Mac and Linux OS are virtually immune to viruses and other problems that plague Windows computers.

If you wanted to try Linux out, I recommend Ubuntu since it is the best for new comers.

www.ubuntu.com/

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« Reply #7 on: Sun Jan 31, 2010 - 13:07:04 »
Here's a video showing some of Linux features and abilities.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPH32M_U2D8[/youtube]

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« Reply #8 on: Sun Jan 31, 2010 - 18:01:50 »
Thanks, Charles, I'm not sure I'm ready to undertake the job of doing Linux.
Is it a program like thing that I could change this Windows Live into?
I don't know that much about computers.

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« Reply #9 on: Sun Jan 31, 2010 - 18:08:19 »
Thanks, Charles, I'm not sure I'm ready to undertake the job of doing Linux.
Is it a program like thing that I could change this Windows Live into?
I don't know that much about computers.

Linux is a different operating system (software that operates the computer hardware).  It is free, but is not as user friendly.  Macs have a more stable operating system.  Also, they are less prone to viruses because of having a small market share.  However, Macs are compatible with less software and cost more and have less flexibility.

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« Reply #10 on: Sun Jan 31, 2010 - 19:22:01 »
Thanks, Charles, I'm not sure I'm ready to undertake the job of doing Linux.
Is it a program like thing that I could change this Windows Live into?
I don't know that much about computers.

Linux is a different operating system (software that operates the computer hardware).  It is free, but is not as user friendly.  Macs have a more stable operating system.  Also, they are less prone to viruses because of having a small market share.  However, Macs are compatible with less software and cost more and have less flexibility.


I think I better stick with Windows. Thanks, Gary.

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« Reply #11 on: Sun Jan 31, 2010 - 20:26:34 »
I think I'm going to take a stab at installing Debian on either my laptop or a workstation.

I think it will be a fun project getting and using strictly open source programing.

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« Reply #12 on: Sun Jan 31, 2010 - 20:38:44 »
Thanks, Charles, I'm not sure I'm ready to undertake the job of doing Linux.
Is it a program like thing that I could change this Windows Live into?
I don't know that much about computers.

Linux is a different operating system (software that operates the computer hardware).  It is free, but is not as user friendly.  Macs have a more stable operating system.  Also, they are less prone to viruses because of having a small market share.  However, Macs are compatible with less software and cost more and have less flexibility.
Yeah, but I always take deference with a couple of these points.

1. Market share.  Irrelevant.  You buy what works regardless of what the majority buys.  Example: majority used to use AOL, the minority that always knew it was clunky, buggy, slow, and overpriced were right to avoid it.

2. Less software.  Yeah, but here's the thing.  What is there works and you find yourself much more content.  Most Windows users are always looking for new ways to do the same old things because they've bought software that doesn't do it well, or easily, or is buggy.  Every time I meet with a couple of Windows evangelists I know they are raving about their latest calendar/email program du jour.  I never does anything my Mac hasn't done dutifully for years, and I've been satisfied all that time while they've been spending hours every month installing The One they hope will finally satisfy, but never does.  I see this all the time and am glad to be out of that circle.  Since switching six years ago, I've been amazed at how much less time I spend fixing and tinkering the computer to do what it should have done out of the box and more time just getting things done....which is, after all, the point.  And I still have a WinPC (Windows 7, even), so I'm not comparing my Mac to what used to be, but what still is (though I'll admit 7 is not too bad, but a Mac it ain't).



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« Reply #13 on: Sun Jan 31, 2010 - 21:05:46 »
Thanks, Charles, I'm not sure I'm ready to undertake the job of doing Linux.
Is it a program like thing that I could change this Windows Live into?
I don't know that much about computers.

Linux is a different operating system (software that operates the computer hardware).  It is free, but is not as user friendly.  Macs have a more stable operating system.  Also, they are less prone to viruses because of having a small market share.  However, Macs are compatible with less software and cost more and have less flexibility.
Yeah, but I always take deference with a couple of these points.

1. Market share.  Irrelevant.  You buy what works regardless of what the majority buys.  Example: majority used to use AOL, the minority that always knew it was clunky, buggy, slow, and overpriced were right to avoid it.

2. Less software.  Yeah, but here's the thing.  What is there works and you find yourself much more content.  Most Windows users are always looking for new ways to do the same old things because they've bought software that doesn't do it well, or easily, or is buggy.  Every time I meet with a couple of Windows evangelists I know they are raving about their latest calendar/email program du jour.  I never does anything my Mac hasn't done dutifully for years, and I've been satisfied all that time while they've been spending hours every month installing The One they hope will finally satisfy, but never does.  I see this all the time and am glad to be out of that circle.  Since switching six years ago, I've been amazed at how much less time I spend fixing and tinkering the computer to do what it should have done out of the box and more time just getting things done....which is, after all, the point.  And I still have a WinPC (Windows 7, even), so I'm not comparing my Mac to what used to be, but what still is (though I'll admit 7 is not too bad, but a Mac it ain't).




#1 is not irrelevant.  If more folks used Macs, there would be more viruses on Macs.  Hackers don't waste their time on Macs when most folks own Windows PC's.

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« Reply #14 on: Sun Jan 31, 2010 - 21:19:13 »
Well, yeah, as far as that goes, but you didn't mention that directly, I thought you were making the "fewer choices, look at the size of the PC V. Mac section of Best Buy" argument based on your software point.  My bad.  True enough, if 90% of computer users were Mac or Linux they'd see a spike in virus activity.  I'd give you that.

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« Reply #15 on: Sun Jan 31, 2010 - 21:34:16 »
Well, yeah, as far as that goes, but you didn't mention that directly, I thought you were making the "fewer choices, look at the size of the PC V. Mac section of Best Buy" argument based on your software point.  My bad.  True enough, if 90% of computer users were Mac or Linux they'd see a spike in virus activity.  I'd give you that.

No, that wasn't my point.  Some folks who are less computer savvy might be better off with a Mac.  I don't do Mac's because I am cheap and by nature of my bachelor's degree, a certified nerd.

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« Reply #16 on: Sun Jan 31, 2010 - 21:37:00 »
Well, yeah, as far as that goes, but you didn't mention that directly, I thought you were making the "fewer choices, look at the size of the PC V. Mac section of Best Buy" argument based on your software point.  My bad.  True enough, if 90% of computer users were Mac or Linux they'd see a spike in virus activity.  I'd give you that.

No, that wasn't my point.  Some folks who are less computer savvy might be better off with a Mac.  I don't do Mac's because I am cheap and by nature of my bachelor's degree, a certified nerd.

I figured you more for a geek than a nerd...............certifiable in either case!

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« Reply #17 on: Sun Jan 31, 2010 - 21:38:38 »
Well, yeah, as far as that goes, but you didn't mention that directly, I thought you were making the "fewer choices, look at the size of the PC V. Mac section of Best Buy" argument based on your software point.  My bad.  True enough, if 90% of computer users were Mac or Linux they'd see a spike in virus activity.  I'd give you that.

No, that wasn't my point.  Some folks who are less computer savvy might be better off with a Mac.  I don't do Mac's because I am cheap and by nature of my bachelor's degree, a certified nerd.

I figured you more for a geek than a nerd...............certifiable in either case!

Depends on how you look at it.  gEEk does have an EE in it.

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« Reply #18 on: Fri Feb 12, 2010 - 09:29:29 »
If you can start your PC in Safe Mode you can sometimes use a Windows program called Windows Install Cleanup to permanently remove just about any program from your computer. In addition you must delete any folders it created. To do that sometimes you must stop any services that it created. If a service is using the folder you won't be able to delete it. You can stop services by pressing ctrl+alt+delete to open the task manager and then click on the processes tab. Right click on the offending process and choose end process. Then you will be able to delete the folder. Many of those products operate from within the folder they create and then create a process so that you can't delete it. It's relatively an easy fix, but a big nuisance.
I use Comodo Internet Security, it's free and does a good job of keeping that stuff out. Also, it's completely configurable which most free Antivirus programs are not. Also I use another free program called Advanced SystemCare Free. It does a good job of cleaning out the junk and has some useful utilities also.